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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: DUmpDiver on April 23, 2020, 12:47:38 AM

Title: Trump and Company used Vets as guinea pigs. Reminds me of: Tuskegee syphilis exp
Post by: DUmpDiver on April 23, 2020, 12:47:38 AM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213333240

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Trump and Company used Vets as guinea pigs. Reminds me of: Tuskegee syphilis experiment

Trump and Company used Vets as guinea pigs to test his pet drug,
Hydroxychloroquine. They died at a greater rate than those that did not receive nhis miracle drug.

Trump and Fox News Are Suddenly Silent on Their “Miracle” Drug Hydroxychloroquine
Their reckless promotion flew in the face of expert warnings.

The attempt to strike a more cautious approach this week comes on the heels of new studies that showed hydroxychloroquine yielded no benefit in helping patients infected with the virus; one study on US veterans reported more deaths among those treated with the drug than those who received normal care.

https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2020/04/trump-and-fox-news-are-suddenly-silent-on-their-miracle-drug-hydroxychloroquine/

they tested this on US Veterans.

The VA secretary:

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"That’s an observational study. It’s not a clinical study .It was done on a small number of veterans; sadly, those of whom were in the last stages of life, and the drug was given to them.... We know the drug has been working on middle-age and younger veterans. And the gov of NY was just in the Oval Office yesterday asking for more"

Cuomo is using New Yorkers for guinea pigs!

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1252964789816643584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1252964789816643584&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.discussionist.com%2F1014500334


Hey, DUmmies, it's being used all around the globe. The doctors in Italy must watch a lot of Fox & Friends.

(https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/21411.jpeg)


And it was just approved in France after clinical trials:

Coronavirus Treatment: France Officially Sanctions Drug After 97.5% Patients Recovered From COVID-19 Within 5 Days

https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus-treatment-france-officially-sanctions-drug-after-975-patients-recovered-2949364
Title: Re: Trump and Company used Vets as guinea pigs. Reminds me of: Tuskegee syphilis exp
Post by: DLR Pyro on April 23, 2020, 06:59:49 AM
President Trump did not prescribe one dose of any medication.  VA doctors prescribed the medication on patients.
Title: Re: Trump and Company used Vets as guinea pigs. Reminds me of: Tuskegee syphilis exp
Post by: SVPete on April 23, 2020, 09:42:21 AM
The blacks in the Tuskegee travesty were not informed about what was being done to them.

The vets (and/or their families) were informed of the risks and nature of their treatment, and consented. One of the biases in this study is that the vets who received the hydroxychloroquine or HQ-azithromycin were all in desperate straits, while the group that received only ordinary care varied in the severity of their illness. In other words, the study was an apple-pears comparison (both deciduous fruits, but still different in texture and taste).

In brief, there was informed consent, and also unlike the syphilitic black men who received sugar pills instead of real medication, these vets received real medication that is commonly accepted as proper treatment for Covid-19 in many nations.
Title: Re: Trump and Company used Vets as guinea pigs. Reminds me of: Tuskegee syphilis exp
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on April 23, 2020, 10:07:09 AM
Doctors around the globe should just take DU's word for it.  Hydroxychloroquine is, you know... bad.
Title: Re: Trump and Company used Vets as guinea pigs. Reminds me of: Tuskegee syphilis exp
Post by: DUmpDiver on April 23, 2020, 10:33:06 AM
Doctors around the globe should just take DU's word for it.  Hydroxychloroquine is, you know... bad.

Pharma companies should tint the pills orange so that DUmmies know not to take it.
Title: Re: Trump and Company used Vets as guinea pigs. Reminds me of: Tuskegee syphilis exp
Post by: Kc25 on April 23, 2020, 03:40:16 PM
Pharma companies should tint the pills orange so that DUmmies know not to take it.

LOL That is Hi5 Worthy