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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on April 13, 2020, 10:11:27 AM
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Atticus (7,636 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213275896
In general, the federal judges---and justices---that Trump and McConnell have elevated
to the bench will continue to be a festering wound on the body politic until they are reviewed and many, if not most, of them removed. Many were rated "unqualified" by the ABA; others were known racists, homophobes and ideologues. Several have absolutely NO COURTROOM EXPERIENCE---have never tried a case. As a whole, they are the most unqualified collection of sycophants and toadies ever to be called "Your Honor"!
It matters not if they are removed by impeachment or if their appointments are deemed "invalid nullities" or if they are "persuaded to resign". They have to be excised from the judiciary if we hope to ever again have "a nation of laws, not men".
Please, let's INSIST that this be addressed when we take the reins and begin the reconstruction of the United States of America.
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Star Member Lochloosa (13,357 posts)
1. I agree, but easier said than done.
Resign? Not going to happen.
Invalid Nullities is a constitutional argument. We would be tied up in the same courts for years.
Impeachment would take 67 votes. We are a long way from that.
I think expanding the Supreme Court would be the most effective way to nullify these judges.
Amishman (2,368 posts)
2. What would be the legal basis for removal?
There are no required qualifications specified in law, so it would not be possible to remove them for being unqualified.
Nor is there a mechanism to nullify their appointments.
The only option would be to dig into every one of their backgrounds and hope to find some hidden crime or misconduct to use for impeachment charges. We could definitely get cases against some of them that way, as based on their character they have more skeletons in their closets than most. Still would need 67 in the Senate, which isn't possible.
Overall though we are stuck with them.
Atticus (7,636 posts)
12. Some of the "skeletons" are not in closets. They were already pointed out by Democrats
who opposed them.
And, I am not proposing getting rid of Republicans because they are Republicans. I am proposing getting rid of grossly unqualified and transparent racists, bigots, homophobes misogynists and some who may be subject to bar association sanctions. Some have publicly advocated and supported white supremacist and anti-semitic groups.
Will it be messy? Absolutely. Is it necessary? Absolutely.
Amishman (2,368 posts)
16. are those skeletons criminal offenses?
much of what you are condemning is not a crime, and would not and should not be grounds for removal.
what you seem to want to do is remove people just because they do not align with our values. That is not valid and is stepping over the line into rather nasty authoritarianism. It would be no different than bible thumpers claiming morality as a reason for removing those they do not agree with.
Atticus (7,636 posts)
18. I do not have dossiers on all of McConnell's misfits. In my view, it is reasonable to say
that any objective reason that SHOULD have prevented their confirmation can be the basis for their impeachment. "Crimes" are, to my knowledge, not required to be alleged.
I do NOT advocate removal simply because they do not "align with our values" so please put that strawman away. I DO advocate removal of all for whom the concept of "American values" is irrelevant. In general, people who have publicly made it clear that they believe people of color, LBGTQ folks, women and non-Christians are inferior beings and not entitled to the full protection of our laws and Constitution should not be sitting in judgment of anyone. I do not believe that is a radical view.
lagomorph777 (12,687 posts)
20. Agreed - with REAL background investigations, most will have disqualifying criminality...
...in past or PRESENT behavior. They need to be lined up and impeached en masse.
Star Member Scruffy1 (2,782 posts)
24. There is only one way that I can think of.
Increase the number of federal judges to at least dilute there effect. Especially, the Supreme court.
bucolic_frolic (16,741 posts)
26. Glenn Kirschner often tweets on this subject in favor of a Trump Crimes Commission. I think he called for review or revote on unqualified judges. Be assured something will be done about this when the next Democratic majority ensues. Perhaps they could be persuaded to resign because they don't understand the job, and people don't usually like what they don't or can't understand, or perhaps they could just be laughed off the bench!
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It's been my observation the reconstruction of America began on January 20, 2017, and we're still rebuilding, as there's a lot of work to do yet.
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lagomorph777 (12,687 posts)
20. Agreed - with REAL background investigations, most will have disqualifying criminality...
...in past or PRESENT behavior. They need to be lined up and impeached en masse.[/quote
Oh, please, oh PLEASE open that can of worms! Because, whether you DUpipo like it or not, it will apply to BOTH sides.
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Several have absolutely NO COURTROOM EXPERIENCE---have never tried a case.
Yet I'd be willing to bet that Atticus thinks President Biden (just kidding) should put Obama on SCOTUS.