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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on April 07, 2020, 04:12:42 PM
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needledriver (703 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213248617
What difference would it have made if *45 had been convicted and removed?
I keep seeing posts about how Republicans own this because they could have done something about it in January, or that there should be a new impeachment because of the COVID-19 response. You mean like banning travel from China?
Within hours of President Trump's decision to restrict travel from China on Jan. 31, top Democrats and media figures immediately derided the move as unnecessary and xenophobic -- and they are now beating a hasty retreat from that position as the coronavirus continues to ravage the economy and cause scores of deaths.
What good would it do? Do we honestly believe that Mike pray-away-the-virus Pence would be an improvement? That somehow Pence would have jumped right on top of testing, lockdowns, and stimulus money, or that Mitch McConnell would have suddenly leapt to pass any of the hundreds of bills the Democratic Congress has sent him which are rotting on his desk?
As satisfying as it would be to see *45 perp walked in handcuffs, it wouldn't actually make a difference in how screwed we are.
The only thing that can fix this is a screaming blue GOTV which yields the Presidency and both houses of Congress - and don't expect any miracles in February of 2021. It's going to take years if not decades to undo the systemic rot of 40 years of "make the government small enough to drown in the bathtub politics".
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Star Member Phoenix61 (6,747 posts)
1. I believe Pence would have listened to experts.
He’s too busy sucking up to Twitler to do that now but I think, if on his own, he would. He the lesser bad of really bad.
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brewens (7,396 posts)
2. One thing is if they had thrown Trump out, Pence and whoever he brought in could have
made a good showing, as doubtful as that is. They could have blamed everything on Trump, done everything possible from that point on, and at least looked better than Trump. I doubt that would have been enough to make him President if he ran. Depending on who was running, republicans might be in better shape than they are now. We might have a little better effort going on that could have shortened this thing up and saved some lives, but it would have still been bad.
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As satisfying as it would be to see *45 perp walked in handcuffs,
No impeached President has ever been removed from office, but if one is removed, it is not is handcuffs.
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needledriver (703 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213248617
What difference would it have made if *45 had been convicted and removed?
I keep seeing posts about how Republicans own this because they could have done something about it in January, or that there should be a new impeachment because of the COVID-19 response. You mean like banning travel from China?
Within hours of President Trump's decision to restrict travel from China on Jan. 31, top Democrats and media figures immediately derided the move as unnecessary and xenophobic -- and they are now beating a hasty retreat from that position as the coronavirus continues to ravage the economy and cause scores of deaths.
What good would it do? Do we honestly believe that Mike pray-away-the-virus Pence would be an improvement? That somehow Pence would have jumped right on top of testing, lockdowns, and stimulus money, or that Mitch McConnell would have suddenly leapt to pass any of the hundreds of bills the Democratic Congress has sent him which are rotting on his desk?
As satisfying as it would be to see *45 perp walked in handcuffs, it wouldn't actually make a difference in how screwed we are.
The only thing that can fix this is a screaming blue GOTV which yields the Presidency and both houses of Congress - and don't expect any miracles in February of 2021. It's going to take years if not decades to undo the systemic rot of 40 years of "make the government small enough to drown in the bathtub politics".
I see you are still harping about the impeachment.