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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on February 27, 2020, 09:17:25 PM
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Star Member babylonsister (163,430 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213022446
Why Trump Can't Pardon Roger Stone
https://politicalwire.com/2020/02/27/why-trump-cant-pardon-roger-stone/
Why Trump Can’t Pardon Roger Stone
February 27, 2020 at 9:55 am EST By Taegan Goddard
Corey Brettschneider: “Speculation that President Trump might pardon Roger Stone has reached a fever pitch after Stone’s sentencing by a federal judge and the president’s repeated hints that he thinks the verdict unfair. But fortunately, the Constitution’s framers imagined this nightmare scenario—a suspected criminal president pardoning a co-conspirator—and they put in the Constitution language to legally prohibit the pardon power in exactly this kind of case.”
“Many scholars agree that once a president has been impeached, he or she loses the power to pardon anyone for criminal offenses connected to the articles of impeachment. Less noticed is that even after the Senate’s failure to convict the president, he or she does not regain this power.”
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empedocles (7,018 posts)
2. We need more articles of impeachment.
Star Member onenote (33,931 posts)
5. Utter nonsense.
There is nothing in the Constitution that remotely does what this article claims.
Also, if you link all the way back to the article, it says "some" scholars agree, not "many".
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OliverQ (3,328 posts)
8. Clinton didn't pardon people connected to his impeachment.
These scholars are saying Trump can't pardon co-conspirators in the crimes he was impeached for.
Star Member LiberalFighter (39,025 posts)
11. I was thinking that earlier on too.
In cases of impeachment would to my reading mean that he can't be pardoned by anyone.
If Barr were to be impeached. Trump couldn't pardoned him.
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Scholar's opinions equal law? What article of The Constitution covers that?
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Total bullshit, but even if true, the shampeachment was about alleged wrongdoing with Ukraine in 2019, while Stone's problems are based on the Russian collusion fairy tale that allegedly happened in 2016 .
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Even if you buy that, a re-election washes the slate clean. Pardons don't normally happen until appeals run their course anyway.
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1. The article section that lists Presidential powers, among them pardons, says nothing about those powers being affected by having been impeached.
2. Dems', MSM shills, and other Progs' hyped bogey-speculations are not reality.