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Title: Could a brokered convention turn into the Democratic Party's version of the Elec
Post by: Texacon on February 27, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287591027


 :lmao:

I've been saying that since I read up on how they do their convention.  It's hilarious.


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ripcord (1,309 posts)

 
Could a brokered convention turn into the Democratic Party's version of the Electoral College?

 
Everyone screamed when Hillary got the most votes and lost the election, if Sanders has a large plurality and the party elite decide against him aren't we saying that we are fine with the candidate with the most votes losing?

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David__77 (19,700 posts)

1. It already is.
 
It’s not like delegates allocation across candidates is determined directly by popular vote.

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brooklynite (59,237 posts)

2. We've already said the nomination goes to the candidate with the MAJORITY
 
Additionally: I recall that Sanders loved Caucus States where voters supporting losing candidates got to have a second choice.

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mysteryowl (2,516 posts)

3. That is the issue with super-delegates.
 
One super-delegate represents multiple votes. It is not democratic. Hopefully, it can be settled on the first vote, which will be by majority, unless the party changes the rules last minute.


Because THEY are your betters!  They're smarter than you're.   :rotf:

Suck it up buttercup.  You just thought you were the intellectual elite who is a high information voter.  Wait until your big boys step up to the plate and TELL you who the nominee is!  Too funny!


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BlueTillIDie (264 posts)

5. as much as i completely despise the
 
republican party and their policies and conservatism in general, the one good thing you can say about them is at least they are democratic in their nomination. it is a sad day when the democratic party does not hold this value. yes trump is a complete madman asshat, but, that's who their voters gave the most delegates too.

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Demsrule86 (39,914 posts)

6. unless the threshold is met, there will be a second vote...Sanders campaigned for this rule.
 
Personally, I think we have to look at operation chaos numbers as well...as for anti-Democratic...caucuses are anti-Democratic as well. We need a nominee who can win...and unless Sanders has above 50 %, he should not be our nominee.

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JudyM (15,909 posts)

8. Sanders campaigned for that rule? No.
 
He wanted purely a popular vote with no superdelegates. The concession he got from the majority was that the superdelegates wouldn’t get to vote up front, only in a second round of voting if there wasn’t a clear majority win, in the first round.

If you can share a link showing what you asserted actually happened, I’ll retract.

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Happy Hoosier (610 posts)

9. If someone else is chosen....
 
... then they would have had to convince a majority of delegates to support him or her.

I don't want a p[arty nominee that doesn't have the support of the majority of the party


The convention is going to be a hoot!  A hoot I tell ya!!

KC
Title: Re: Could a brokered convention turn into the Democratic Party's version of the Elec
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 27, 2020, 12:29:58 PM
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One super-delegate represents multiple votes. It is not democratic.

Unfortunately for you, your "party" leaders could care less about what you want. it is all about THEM!  :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:

Their goal is to keep the gravy train running and to have a seat at the front of first class.
Title: Re: Could a brokered convention turn into the Democratic Party's version of the Elec
Post by: thundley4 on February 27, 2020, 04:30:32 PM
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Personally, I think we have to look at operation chaos numbers as well...as for anti-Democratic.

My primary vote is wasted in Illinois. I'm trying to talk people into asking for the Democrat ballot and voting for Bernie.  Of course my vote is wasted most times in the general election, but I keep trying.
Title: Re: Could a brokered convention turn into the Democratic Party's version of the Elec
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 27, 2020, 06:41:09 PM
My primary vote is wasted in Illinois. I'm trying to talk people into asking for the Democrat ballot and voting for Bernie.  Of course my vote is wasted most times in the general election, but I keep trying.

Thinking about doing that here in MO, my vote isn't wasted here but there isn't a primary contest that affects anything for me on the GOP side.  I think I'll cross over and vote for Bernie.  If he actually ends up getting elected, I'd rather know sooner than later that this country has decided to jump in the toilet and yank the flush handle on the way.