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Title: I don't want to add to any panic
Post by: dutch508 on February 26, 2020, 02:19:09 PM
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Star Member skip fox (17,610 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213018672

The mortality rate of 2% for 327.2 million people is over 6.5 million.
I don't want to add to any panic, but with the reported death rate of Coronavirus, the United States could lose over 6.5 million people.

It's important to know what we're talking about. With the possibility of such a horrendous loss, we might multiply our efforts to contain it.

No cost should be spared in its containment if the mortality rate is what has been reported.

you assume 100% infection rate. A current worst case is 60%. Still a lot of people though...

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Star Member Zeus69 (133 posts)

7. If every person in the US contracted the virus...

But they won’t.

For comparison, the case fatality rate with seasonal flu in the United States is less than 0.1% (1 death per every 1,000 cases).

Mortality rate for SARS was 10%, and for MERS 34%.

Virus Death Rate
Wuhan Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV): 2%*
SARS: 9.6%
MERS: 34%
Swine Flu: 0.02%

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Star Member defacto7 (12,587 posts)

25. Those numbers are not valid by themselves.

Without figuring in the infection rate they're meaningless. Which is worse, 1,000 infections with 100 dead (10%) or 100,000 infections with 1000 dead (1%)?
Example: Ebola has a low infection rate but high mortality 40-70%. 800 get infected 400+/- die. Seasonal flu 100 million infected at .01% 10,000 dead. You can put in guestimates of your own for covid but none really mean much except for speculation based on infection rate, recovered patients and deaths. None of these make sense without the others.

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Star Member skip fox (17,610 posts)

14. Hell, I'm 73 and have had 2 heart attacks, lung operation, etc.

But it's great to hear children are living.

 :rotf:

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underthematrix (5,563 posts)

26. Since we have a criminal and traitor in the WH, what are

YOU doing to protect yourself and your family.

Here's what me and my family are doing.

We have frozen meals for 30 days.
We are stocking up on bottled water.
We have batteries and flashlights and lanterns
We do not use any public spaces or public transportation or attend public gatherings
We shop for food once a week
We do not dine out
We avoid any and all fast food restaurants and deli sections
We do not have any visitors to our home and we do not visit other people
Our prescriptions are filled by mail
We follow all instructions of our healthcare team to avoid unnecessary visits to a healthcare facility.
We take DAILY 1/2 hour walks in our neighborhood because we like it. It's part of our healthy lifestyle plan and it helps to keep our neighborhood safe.
Finally
We DO NOT listen or watch anything the#TraitorTrump's admin says about the virus or anything else. Maddow provides the MOST accurate information on the virus and its spread.

 :mental:

Title: Re: I don't want to add to any panic
Post by: Old n Grumpy on February 26, 2020, 02:22:41 PM
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Star Member skip fox (17,610 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213018672

The mortality rate of 2% for 327.2 million people is over 6.5 million

Is there some way to direct it toward lefty's and progressives?
Title: Re: I don't want to add to any panic
Post by: thundley4 on February 26, 2020, 02:33:20 PM
I looked up the most recent numbers before posting them in the shoutbox.

So far, 16,000 people have died and 280,000 people have been hospitalized. = 5.7% (Regular flu, US only)

81,245 cases, 2,770 deaths. = 3.4% (Coronavirus, worldwide.)
Title: Re: I don't want to add to any panic
Post by: 67 Rover on February 26, 2020, 02:38:29 PM
Is there some way to direct it toward lefty's and progressives?

The lefties do like to congregate in the big cities and on public transportation. 
Title: Re: I don't want to add to any panic
Post by: DLR Pyro on February 26, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
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With the possibility of such a horrendous loss, we might multiply our efforts to contain it.

trnaslation:  throw money at the problem even though the best way to contain it is to secure the border and stop people from entering the Country if they come from high risk areas of the world.  Are you DUmmies ok with that?
Title: Re: I don't want to add to any panic
Post by: Texacon on February 26, 2020, 03:28:25 PM
trnaslation:  throw someone ELSES money at the problem even though the best way to contain it is to secure the border and stop people from entering the Country if they come from high risk areas of the world.  Are you DUmmies ok with that?

Sorry, you missed a step there...

KC
Title: Re: I don't want to add to any panic
Post by: Mary Ann on February 26, 2020, 04:31:31 PM
DH went to the grocery store today, and said he'd never seen the shelves of canned foods so empty. Toilet paper, lots of empty shelves where the otc meds are kept. It's like we're expecting a snowstorm--except we're not. People are panicking.

I'm not. I think people need to calm down.
Title: Re: I don't want to add to any panic
Post by: aetherbane on February 26, 2020, 04:46:40 PM
Is there some way to direct it toward lefty's and progressives?

Angi-vaxxers hardest hit.  :thatsright: