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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on January 24, 2020, 04:21:52 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287443682
DanTex
Expanding the party, and Joe Rogan.
Expanding the party means getting votes from people who don't agree with us on everything. The usual knock on people like Bernie and Warren is that they will scare away moderates with their big spending leftist ways like single payer and free college.
So wouldn't reaching Joe Rogan be exactly an example of expanding the party? Why is it cool to post articles from Never Trump right-wingers like (say) Jennifer Rubin, or for candidates to talk about how friendly they are with Republicans, but the same doesn't apply to Joe Rogan?
Personally, I have low opinions of both Joe Rogan and Jennifer Rubin. Rogan is OK with anti-trans bigotry. Rubin is OK with torture. Rogan likes conspiracy theories. Rubin likes supply-side economics. I'm not OK with any of that. And I'm not going to go listening to their ideas for wisdom. But in the end, if the goal is to beat Trump, they're both in the same category.
Let the infighting, pearl clutching and bitch slapping begin:
DanTex
10. Is Rogan a "Trumper" or "moderate Republican" or neither? What's "pandering" vs "reaching out"?
Is a "Trumper" anyone who voted for Trump, then a lot of "moderate Republicans" are also Trumpers.
I don't know much about Rogan's political views, so I don't know what category he's in. He hosts a show which I've never seen except for a few clips, but apparently he's got a big audience. And as far as "pandering", Bernie didn't change any of his positions to seek Rogan's approval. In fact, I don't even know if he reached out to Rogan or if Rogan just spontaneously decided to say that.
LongtimeAZDem
13. Rogan's racist, transphobic, misogynist, and otherwise reprehensible comments are public record, and
Sanders re-tweeting Rogan's post demonstrates approval.
This cannot be spun; it is reprehensible, and indefensible.
Demsrule86
45. He should not be promoted on DU...I don't care who he endorsed
Demsrule86
27. That is nonsense...working with the other side's elected is not the same as approving of a racist
woman hating , conspiracy believe POS like Rogan who counts Alex Jones as his buddy...so stop. Sanders is wrong. And every post of yours is a hit piece on Biden and a positive one for Sanders.
Demsrule86
37. Sanders values support from a guy who say shit like this...And because he had Alex Jones on his
podcast,I say **** you Rogan...you misogynistic, hateful,racist piece of garbage.
"...And speaking of a lot: He uses the word lady a lot. “Ladies,” he went on, “you make people. You make all the people. And you want to be president, too, you ****ing greedy bitches? What else do you want? You want bigger dicks than us?” “Ladies,” he went on some more, “I love you … but let’s be honest, you don’t invent a lot of shit...”
or how about his latest Netflix garbage...
"Rogan’s most recent Netflix special is often funny because Joe Rogan is a professional stand-up comedian, but if you look past the jokes themselves and focus on the targets he’s choosing, the same patterns emerge. Hillary, the #MeToo movement, why it sucks that he can’t call things “gay,” vegan bullies, sexism. Of all the things in the world for a comedian to joke about right now, why these? “I say shit I don’t mean because it’s funny,” he says during the special, which is something all comedians say, and is sort of true but also sort of not. People reveal their deepest selves in the subjects they keep revisiting, and the hills they choose to die on. With Rogan, you can often see and hear the tension between what he knows he’s supposed to believe and what he really thinks. Joe Rogan may be all about love, but beneath the surface he’s seething.
pfeiffer
5. Especially when you accept...
an endorsement from a racist misogynistic homophobic ignorant **** like Joe Rogan.
But fine...go ahead...keep it up with your pathetically ignorant "Bernie at all costs!!" garbage. I mean, it's all for Bernie, right??
Thekaspervote
9. This.. why would one want to have endorsements from an obvious bigot like that!
Don’t give me the big tent crap. That guy’s a creep. Will chase women voters away for sure
Drunken Irishman
56. lmao from the same people who, just last week, were telling us the Dem Party was too big of a tent.
The messaging is so ******* inconsistent.
I am glad, though, that malina has taken it upon herself to fully speak out for both the black and the trans community. Since, you know, if she says it, it must be the voice of an entire demographic.
But I'm guessing there are trans people who are hurt by some of Rogan's awful rhetoric toward their group.
Like...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1573044-ufc-joe-rogan-to-transgender-mma-fighter-fallon-fox-youre-a-man
Butt hat's cool. Malina has told us it's okay, guys, as a black trans woman, she absolutely is fine with it! Cool.
scheming daemons
18. Embracing Joe Rogan costs you suburban women
... the people who brought us victory in 2018.
mcar
23. So, if David Duke endorsed a Democratic candidate
and that candidate happily welcomed that endorsement, you'd be OK with that?
Demsrule86
24. Jennifer Rubin is a journalist...Rogan is a conspiracy right wing nutter and a racist...so no
No, there is no comparison...and his just pumping up Sanders like the rest of the right ...starting with Trump because they think they can beat him...he likes Alex Jones...that is all we need to know about this guy.
Too much fun watching the left eat their own over a non political person such as Joe Rogan.
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I've never been a fan of Joe Rogan myself, but for a different reason:
He and fellow talentless assclown Doug Stanhope took over 'The Man Show' (Which, when hosted by Adam Carolla and pre- selling- out- to- the- Left Jimmy Kimmel, was easily one of the funniest shows on television), and their brainless, unfunny writing and hosting got it cancelled in half a season!
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Demsrule86
37. Sanders values support from a guy who say shit like this...And because he had Alex Jones on his
podcast,I say **** you Rogan...you misogynistic, hateful,racist piece of garbage.
"...And speaking of a lot: He uses the word lady a lot. “Ladies,” he went on, “you make people. You make all the people. And you want to be president, too, you ****ing greedy bitches? What else do you want? You want bigger dicks than us?” “Ladies,” he went on some more, “I love you … but let’s be honest, you don’t invent a lot of shit...”
or how about his latest Netflix garbage...
"Rogan’s most recent Netflix special is often funny because Joe Rogan is a professional stand-up comedian, but if you look past the jokes themselves and focus on the targets he’s choosing, the same patterns emerge. Hillary, the #MeToo movement, why it sucks that he can’t call things “gay,” vegan bullies, sexism.
Hmmm...I will need to check this out.
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Hmmm...I will need to check this out.
His interview with Alex jones is also immensely entertaining
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I've never been a fan of Joe Rogan myself, but for a different reason:
He and fellow talentless assclown Doug Stanhope took over 'The Man Show' (Which, when hosted by Adam Carolla and pre- selling- out- to- the- Left Jimmy Kimmel, was easily one of the funniest shows on television), and their brainless, unfunny writing and hosting got it cancelled in half a season!
Agreed on the Man Show thing. It was pretty silly to continue the show without Carolla/Kimmel. I have no dog in this hunt. Rogan was entertaining at times as a part of the ensemble cast of one of the most underrated sitcoms, "Newsradio".
Don't follow his podcast or have ever listened. About all I know about him anymore is that he has an apparently popular podcast and hosts MMA events.
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Agreed on the Man Show thing. It was pretty silly to continue the show without Carolla/Kimmel. I have no dog in this hunt. Rogan was entertaining at times as a part of the ensemble cast of one of the most underrated sitcoms, "Newsradio".
Don't follow his podcast or have ever listened. About all I know about him anymore is that he has an apparently popular podcast and hosts MMA events.
At the risk of sounding like a rogan fanboy, the guy really tries to keep an even keel on most subjects. Hes been overly abrasive towards Steven crowder but was a big part in exposing Twitter bias
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At the risk of sounding like a rogan fanboy, the guy really tries to keep an even keel on most subjects. Hes been overly abrasive towards Steven crowder but was a big part in exposing Twitter bias
He seems like a decent guy, no need to worry about sounding like a fanboy. There are no purity tests that come with being conservative. Unlike the left whose collective panties are in a bunch for this Rogan thing.