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Title: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: CC27 on January 21, 2020, 12:26:07 PM
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Star Member MineralMan (127,525 posts)

 
Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries

 
It is his campaign staff, which includes several people high in the organization who are proud to have voted for Jill Stein in the 2016 General Election. Rather than vote for Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, they voted for Jill Stein to help spoil that election.

Bernie Sanders knows that about them, yet he hired them to represent him in the 2020 primary race. Why? I don't know the answer to that question, and I don't know that anyone has asked him that question, at least in a public forum.

As a Democrat, of course I will vote for the Democratic Nominee this November, no matter who it is. But, I will not do anything to help Bernie Sanders get that nomination - for the reason written above in this post.

I do not trust Senator Sanders' judgment, based on his choices for who runs his campaign. Not one bit. Why would a primary candidate, running as a Democrat, choose proud third-party voters for high positions on his staff? What other choices would he make, if elected as President, that go against the principles of the Democratic Party?

I'm sorry, but that's a non-negotiable thing for me during the primary race. You can make whatever argument you wish, but that is a non-starter for me in the primary elections. If voters decide to make him the nominee by voting for Senator Sanders and gain enough delegates to make him the nominee, then I'll vote for him in November. I sure hope I do not have to do that, though.

Proud Jill Stein voters lead his campaign staff. No, thank you, Bernie. Not for me.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287434345

Get off your high horse.
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on January 21, 2020, 12:43:18 PM
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Star Member MineralMan (127,525 posts)

 


As a Democrat, of course I will vote for the Democratic Nominee this November, no matter who it is. But, I will not do anything to help Bernie Sanders get that nomination - for the reason written above in this post.

I do not trust Senator Sanders' judgment, based on his choices for who runs his campaign. Not one bit. Why would a primary candidate, running as a Democrat, choose proud third-party voters for high positions on his staff? What other choices would he make, if elected as President, that go against the principles of the Democratic Party?
Would vote for Bernie even though he does not trust him. When/if the time comes, that will be one heck of an endorsement.
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: SVPete on January 21, 2020, 01:11:56 PM
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Star Member MineralMan (127,525 posts)
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It is his campaign staff, which includes several people high in the organization who are proud to have voted for Jill Stein in the 2016 General Election. Rather than vote for Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, they voted for Jill Stein to help spoil that election.

I'm no Prog, but I suspect they voted for Stein because HilLIARy scared them as much as Trump. You know, an honest, non-mean, vote?

Disagreeing with someone's politics doesn't force me to assume such a person has evil nefarious motives. I guess MM differs with me on that point along with many many others.
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: Texacon on January 21, 2020, 01:32:14 PM
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I'm sorry, but that's a non-negotiable thing for me during the primary race. You can make whatever argument you wish, but that is a non-starter for me in the primary elections. If voters decide to make him the nominee by voting for Senator Sanders and gain enough delegates to make him the nominee, then I'll vote for him in November. I sure hope I do not have to do that, though.


Can someone explain that to me?  Is he saying that a democrat can win the popular vote in the primary, but not get enough delegates to support them so someone else could end up with the nomination?

I'm ignorant of how that works.

KC
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on January 21, 2020, 03:27:31 PM

Can someone explain that to me?  Is he saying that a democrat can win the popular vote in the primary, but not get enough delegates to support them so someone else could end up with the nomination?

I'm ignorant of how that works.

KC
Fortunately we don't speak moonbat.
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: Texacon on January 21, 2020, 04:15:15 PM
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The 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries and caucuses will be a series of electoral contests organized by the Democratic Party to select the approximately 3,979[a] pledged delegates to the Democratic National Convention. Those delegates shall, by pledged votes, elect the Democratic nominee for president of the United States in the 2020 U.S. presidential election.[1] The elections are scheduled to take place from February to June 2020 in all fifty U.S. states, the District of Columbia, five U.S. territories, and Democrats Abroad.

Independent of the result of primaries and caucuses, the Democratic Party will, from its group of party leaders and elected officials, also appoint 771 unpledged delegates (superdelegates) to participate in its national convention. In contrast to all previous election cycles since superdelegates were introduced in 1984, superdelegates will no longer have the right to cast decisive votes at the convention's first ballot for the presidential nomination. They will be allowed to cast non-decisive votes if a candidate has clinched the nomination before the first ballot, or decisive votes on subsequent ballots in a contested convention.[1][2][3]

There were 29 major Democratic presidential candidates in the 2020 election. As of January 13, 2020, 12 major candidates are seeking the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020.[4] The October 15, 2019, Democratic presidential debate in Westerville, Ohio, featured 12 candidates, setting a record for the highest number of candidates in one presidential debate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries


Wait a damn minute.  This is different from the Electoral College, how??  These moonbats howl about the EC damn near daily.  They go on and on about 'popular vote' and their own party does the same thing!  They don't trust themselves and not only that, if this goes through the first ballot then the Super Delegates get to just smack them around and tell them who it's going to be.  LOL

KC
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: ADsOutburst on January 21, 2020, 05:01:09 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries


Wait a damn minute.  This is different from the Electoral College, how??  These moonbats howl about the EC damn near daily.  They go on and on about 'popular vote' and their own party does the same thing!  They don't trust themselves and not only that, if this goes through the first ballot then the Super Delegates get to just smack them around and tell them who it's going to be.  LOL

KC
They're all for democracy... until they're not.

As for the OP, there are far better reasons to oppose Sanders than the ones given, such as his delusional policies, the extremists among his staff, and the fact that he's a weak leader.
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: DUmpsterDiver on January 21, 2020, 10:27:23 PM
>Star Member MineralMan (127,525 posts) As a Democrat, of course I will vote for the Democratic Nominee this November, no matter who it is. But, I do not trust Senator Sanders' judgment, based on his choices for who runs his campaign.

Well, you ignorant cluck and senile coot, you'll help destroy America to deny the next Teddy Roosevelt.  How about a nice cup of STFU?
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: BadCat on January 22, 2020, 08:18:39 AM
Well, here is what the hildebeast thinks of bernie..

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“Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician,” she said. “It’s all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it.” Asked by The Reporter recently if that assessment still held, she replied, “Yes, it does.”

Gonna be fun to watch them kill each other over there.
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: SVPete on January 22, 2020, 08:40:13 AM
Well, here is what the hildebeast thinks of bernie..

Gonna be fun to watch them kill each other over there.

It'll probably heat up some time in March or April.
Title: Re: Why I Work Against Bernie Sanders During the Primaries. Rockhead
Post by: DLR Pyro on January 22, 2020, 09:01:15 AM
Would vote for Bernie even though he does not trust him.

wouldn't that be voting against his best interests...?