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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: tuolumnejim on August 21, 2008, 11:19:13 PM
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I haven't seen it posted yet, and I'm laughing my butt off! :lmao: :rotf:
Link (http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/obama-sued-in-philadelphia-federal.html)
AmericaRight.com
8/21/08
Jeff Schreiber
A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.
Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party.
"I filed this action at this time," Berg stated, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.".
Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator's background, and in today's lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls "dual loyalties" due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.
Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.
In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.
Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.
Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama's mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.
Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.
The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.
"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg stated. "If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws."
"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected."
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Boy-O-boy. Wow. I was wondering if anyone of any substance was going to get around to this action.
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This is hilarious.
And it is initiated from a LEFTY!
I can't wait for the DUmp to get ahold of it.
LOL
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I would have loved to see the look on osama obamas wife, when she gets good news it looks like she want to cut off someones head. :bwah:
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It's time Obama was held accountable. McCain's citizenship was questioned and he was FORCED to hand over a legit copy of his birth record. Which he voluntarily did. Obama has handed over a forged copy via KOS. Why is no one allowed to demand anything from Obama yet other candidates have to tow the line. scuse me, I guess it would make me racist to question Obama on anything.
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This is hilarious.
And it is initiated from a LEFTY!
I can't wait for the DUmp to get ahold of it.
LOL
They got wind of it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6693739
Just like with the John Edwards story, this is all a big LIE and not going to amount to anything. :)
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Wouldn't you think such a lawsuit would make the news ?? something aint right .
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Ha ha ha :-)
DU shoots the messenger right out of the gate.
BrentTaylor (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-22-08 12:35 AM
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1. This is BS. Please stop posting their garbage here
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-22-08 12:40 AM
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8. Yes, heard about it at Free Republic, based in Fresno, which is near Clovis...
Someone else had a post about heads exploding at FR over the COLB issue and linked to them, and the FR link talked about this suit.
Gawd, I hope you're a good DUer, and not posting this as flamebait.
We've had an awful lot of distruptors here lately.
What???
Does this mean the validity of the news depends on which carrier pigeon delivered it?
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As much fun as this would be, I don't think this will go very far, especially after this (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html).
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Wouldn't you think such a lawsuit would make the news ?? something aint right .
I agree. Also without doing detailed research on the point, in general it wouldn't matter what the laws were THEN on the 18-vs-19 mother's age thing, a change in that kind of law would normally be retroactive.
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Interesting. Never heard it on the news. Should be interesting to follow.
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Berg is going to be on the first hour of Coast to Coast AM tonight with Ian Punnett. Starts in ten minutes.
http://www.yourgeorgia.net/Georgia/Streaming/Streaming_Livx.html
(click on the NewsTalk AM 1270 banner at the top of the page top open an embedded player)
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Berg is going to be on the first hour of Coast to Coast AM tonight with Ian Punnett. Starts in ten minutes.
http://www.yourgeorgia.net/Georgia/Streaming/Streaming_Livx.html
(click on the NewsTalk AM 1270 banner at the top of the page top open an embedded player)
Thanks for the heads up. I'm listening now
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Damn time zone change. Show doesn't start for another 45 minutes.
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I can wait.
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it's on... :popcorn:
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Tuned in and listening.
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Apparently a DUmmie is watching this thread. :-)
Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6710899)
Bill219 (469 posts) Sat Aug-23-08 05:17 AM
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Coast to Coast listeners....
Ian is going to have on the guy that is suing Obama about his citizenship.
Let's make him know how we feel about him when they open up the phone lines
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DU loves Coast to Coast AM. George Noory is one of them.
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So far so good...
But this lawyer is stumbling a bit in his responses.
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Thoughts of anyone else here that is listening to the coast to coast broadcast?
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I haven't heard anything new that isn't in the OP's article. But C2Cis the largest nightime radio show in the country. This is getting out to a lot of people.
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Uh oh. They're about to open the phone lines. :popcorn:
Point of order... doesn't one have to "file" with the appropriate authorities that they intend to run for President?
Typical bureaucracy, they probably just collected the filing fee and shoved the paper in a drawer somewhere without looking at it. Probably spent more time counting the filing fee than looking at what was on the form.