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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on April 12, 2018, 04:47:53 AM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210468534
Oh my.
Omaha Steve (66,084 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:58 PM
Just a couple reasons Bernie can win the nomination IF he even runs
Too early to tell if Bernie is even going to run. The reason I posted this is all the speculation on DU.
OS
He ran strong in Iowa where it all starts. (virtual tie for 1st place)
Still has a dedicated network like over 1.5 million endorsed union members.
Can raise grassroots $.
Has national race experience and infrastructure in place.
Is not an unknown for 2020.
Socialist is no longer a dirty word.
Can attract rust belt Trump Democrats on being anti-NAFTA, free trade, etc.
By the way, folks, the first two lines in this were written by the big guy himself; it's the most of his own writing he's ever posted.
waddirum (749 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:01 PM
1. Thanks no thanks
He gave it his best shot. Time for new blood.
KatyMan (2,401 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:21 PM
response to the waddling primitive above
8. agree.
not to be ageist, but he'll be 80. That's pretty old to be prez. Plus, he's not a Democrat is he? I like him and his message, but if he's only on the team to run for prez and jumps when he's not, should we as Dems support him?
BannonsLiver (3,020 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:02 PM
response to the big guy's original post
2. I think I'm going to be sick.
arthritisR_US (6,312 posts) Tue Apr 10, 2018, 01:05 PM
response to the banned liver primitive above
25. You and me both.
obamanut2012 (14,197 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:10 PM
response to the big guy's original post
4. no thanks
It's a long thread, and that's pretty much the primitive reaction.
kentuck (85,759 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:21 PM
response to the big guy's original post
9. I don't think Bernie could win the nomination...
But he could win enough support to hurt the Democratic Party and give another term to Donald Trump. But, nothing to worry about.
MineralMan (106,275 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:24 PM
response to the big guy's original post
11. He already lost it once.
He'd lose it again.
Just saying...
NCTraveler (27,281 posts) Wed Apr 11, 2018, 07:16 AM
response to the big guy's original post
80. The guy is starting to be vetted for the first time in his career.
People are starting to listen to the words he speaks instead of the volume he speaks at. That is what will do him in.
EffieBlack (7,228 posts) Wed Apr 11, 2018, 03:20 PM
response to the traveling palmetto primitive above
119. And, boy is he pissed about it.
It'd be a really depressing thread for the jackpiners to read, but I still suggest Manny's primitives read it, so as to get a grip on reality.
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Omaha Steve (66,084 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:58 PM
Just a couple reasons Bernie can win the nomination IF he even runs
Too early to tell if Bernie is even going to run. The reason I posted this is all the speculation on DU.
OS
He ran strong in Iowa where it all starts. (virtual tie for 1st place)
Still has a dedicated network like over 1.5 million endorsed union members.
Can raise grassroots $.
Has national race experience and infrastructure in place.
Is not an unknown for 2020.
Socialist is no longer a dirty word.
Can attract rust belt Trump Democrats on being anti-NAFTA, free trade, etc.
Socialism. Because waiting in lines for one brand of toilet paper, medicine and food brings people together. :banghead:
Omaha Steve update. Still dying since 2000.
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MineralMan (106,275 posts) Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:24 PM
response to the big guy's original post
11. He already lost it once.
He'd lose it again.
Just saying...
Too bad you did not give Hillary that advice.
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This primitive had it correct:
NCTraveler (27,281 posts) Wed Apr 11, 2018, 07:16 AM
response to the big guy's original post
80. The guy is starting to be vetted for the first time in his career.
People are starting to listen to the words he speaks instead of the volume he speaks at. That is what will do him in.
Exactly. Enough good and decent people see what a shithole Venezuela is, and can still become, and want nothing to do with it.
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This primitive had it correct:
Exactly. Enough good and decent people see what a shithole Venezuela is, and can still become, and want nothing to do with it.
I agree. I've always thought that while Hillary's loss was because of how awful she is, running Bernie would not necessarily have been a win for the Ds. His socialist economic policies would have been pitted against a guy who knows a Hell of a lot about real world economics than Bernie could eve imagine. It would have been a very different race, but I think Bernie was very vulnerable and beatable.
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I agree. I've always thought that while Hillary's loss was because of how awful she is, running Bernie would not necessarily have been a win for the Ds. His socialist economic policies would have been pitted against a guy who knows a Hell of a lot about real world economics than Bernie could eve imagine. It would have been a very different race, but I think Bernie was very vulnerable and beatable.
I really doubt the conventional wisdom that the hoary old white-haired sourassed sourpuss crank from Vermont and his thieving wife would've kept the White House for the Democrats, if he rather than Messalina Agrippina, had been the nominee.
Anything can happen, and usually does. (Something those on the side of decent and civilized people would do well to remember, for the mid-term elections.)
Yet this seems an article of faith among Democrats, liberals, and primitives, that ol' pruneface would've beaten Donald Trump.
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I really doubt the conventional wisdom that the hoary old white-haired sourassed sourpuss crank from Vermont and his thieving wife would've kept the White House for the Democrats, if he rather than Messalina Agrippina, had been the nominee.
Anything can happen, and usually does. (Something those on the side of decent and civilized people would do well to remember, for the mid-term elections.)
Yet this seems an article of faith among Democrats, liberals, and primitives, that ol' pruneface would've beaten Donald Trump.
I've seen conservatives say it as well. He would have made for a different race, but not just on the D side. He would have brought different issues, and Trump would have campaigned correspondingly differently. And Trump has the business experience - generally and with bureaucrats particularly - to be able to expose Bernie's doctrinaire ignorance and incompetence.
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This primitive had it correct:
Exactly. Enough good and decent people see what a shithole Venezuela is, and can still become, and want nothing to do with it.
Pffffft. Says the guy who has never had the pleasure of Flamingo, Lemur or a tender 90yo turtle. :-)
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Socialism. Because waiting in lines for one brand of toilet paper, medicine and food brings people together. :banghead:
Omaha Steve update. Still dying since 2000.
Yeah, that was the first line that stood out as ridiculous to me.