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This coming from someone named Paint It Black?
Paint It Black (95 posts) Mon Jan-21-08 03:49 PM
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Conservatives and rethugs claim they are not racist. I beg to differ.
If you spend any amount of time listening to RW talk shows, they're always quick to point out that they're not racist. Yet, it seems like whenever there is an African-American accused of something (OJ, Wesley Snipes, Barry Bonds, Michael Jackson, etc etc), these folks will almost always assume the person is guilty. Yet when it's a white person involved (ie the Duke Lacrosse players), they're quick to say "innocent until proven guilty".
It's not just that, but it's their policies as well. Taking money out of inner-city schools, being against affirmative action, idiotic drug laws that seem designed to target young black men, etc. They claim that they'd rather people help themselves, but then they take away the tools that would allow them to do just that.
It just seems to me that on any given issue that involves race, they will almost always come down on the wrong side. I'm not saying that every single conservative or rethug is a closet racist - but their party and their policies sure as hell are.
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Pretty much, all guilty.
Proven, not guilty
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Amazing the projection that goes on courtesy of the DUmmies on threads like this one.
The Dummies see EVERYTHING and EVERYONE by their color...gender...orientation etc which to me is the epitome of being a racist sexist homphobe.
But some how try to sluff their own failings and shortcoming onto the rest of us.
Not a one of them even TRY to live up to MLK's dram of people being judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
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Amazing the projection that goes on courtesy of the DUmmies on threads like this one.
The Dummies see EVERYTHING and EVERYONE by their color...gender...orientation etc which to me is the epitome of being a racist sexist homphobe.
But some how try to sluff their own failings and shortcoming onto the rest of us.
Not a one of them even TRY to live up to MLK's dram of people being judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
They judge by the content of their political beliefs. In their minds, that's far more noble.
But this is the DU we're talking about.
*TKay*
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sleebarker (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-21-08 03:59 PM
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2. Even worse is when they claim that there's some sort of mass prejudice against white dudes
I can't imagine the cognitive dissonance it takes to pull that off.
I wouldn't say mass prejudiced but enough of the libs try to paint white dudes as the cause of all evil.
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Amazing the projection that goes on courtesy of the DUmmies on threads like this one.
The Dummies see EVERYTHING and EVERYONE by their color...gender...orientation etc which to me is the epitome of being a racist sexist homphobe.
But some how try to sluff their own failings and shortcoming onto the rest of us.
Not a one of them even TRY to live up to MLK's dram of people being judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.
They judge by the content of their political beliefs. In their minds, that's far more noble.
But this is the DU we're talking about.
*TKay*
That's true...look at what they do to Conservatives who are black or Hispanic.
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sleebarker (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-21-08 03:59 PM
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2. Even worse is when they claim that there's some sort of mass prejudice against white dudes
I can't imagine the cognitive dissonance it takes to pull that off.
I wouldn't say mass prejudiced but enough of the libs try to paint white dudes as the cause of all evil.
It's not all "white dudes" that are discriminated against.
Just straight Christian Conservatives.
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They must have forgotten about all of the white people on steroids that were raked over the coals. Also, they must have forgotten the outrage when Robert Blake was acquitted. Conversely, I've always said that it is my opinion that Kobe isn't guilty of a damn thing except stupidity by allowing a some money-grubbing skank to put him in that position.
It's not always about color, you f'n DUmbasses. :whatever:
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You just vote Democrat and we'll:
give you money every month
pay for your housing, in a crime ridden ghetto
make sure you never have to work
make it so you'll never better your situation
I Have A Dream
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sleebarker (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jan-21-08 03:59 PM
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2. Even worse is when they claim that there's some sort of mass prejudice against white dudes
I can't imagine the cognitive dissonance it takes to pull that off.
I wouldn't say mass prejudiced but enough of the libs try to paint white dudes as the cause of all evil.
It's not all "white dudes" that are discriminated against.
Just straight Christian Conservatives.
Yeah for the most par,t the Christian part is optional white straight and not a moonbat is all it really takes.
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You just vote Democrat and we'll:
give you money every month
pay for your housing, in a crime ridden ghetto
make sure you never have to work
make it so you'll never better your situation
I Have A Dream
Hey sounds like a good deal to me I think I'll vote Dem from now on. :rotf:
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angrycarpenter (527 posts) Mon Jan-21-08 04:14 PM
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7. I know it is in the south
Haven't met a die hard conservative here who isn't. Being white many just assume that I will agree with them when they utter some hate filled diatribe about how the blacks and mexicans have ruined this country. They always look at me as a traitor when I take the progressive view and tell them that they are full of it and why.
I don't know how it is up north but here (Florida) there is no question that conservatives are racially motivated. Don't believe them when they say otherwise.
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I live in the south, and that is true for the most part, but what the DUmmy isn't telling you is about 80% of the blacks you see are on welfare. White people down here are angry that they have to bust their ass to get by, and don't like seeing their tax money going to 22" spinners. I think that's a pretty good gripe.
P.S. Florida is not the south, it's like the Yankees' Embassy down here.
lwfern (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-21-08 04:14 PM
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8. idiotic drug laws
that seem designed to target young black men ... ?
Are you talking about republicans? Or Bill Clinton?
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OUCH!!!!! That's gonna leave a mark.
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Hmmm..........someone raising the troll flag
opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-21-08 03:57 PM
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1. The many pubs here will not respond to threads like this...
They are ashamed and in denial
Some are on a mission to destroy the Dem Party/Candidates
They will not admit CONSERVATISM is Evil and Selfish....the MEism Complex personified...
they are delusional
Paint It Black (98 posts) Mon Jan-21-08 04:13 PM
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6. Or if they say they "have black friends"
I wonder how much those black "friends" secretly loathe them.
angrycarpenter (527 posts) Mon Jan-21-08 04:14 PM
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7. I know it is in the south
Haven't met a die hard conservative here who isn't. Being white many just assume that I will agree with them when they utter some hate filled diatribe about how the blacks and mexicans have ruined this country. They always look at me as a traitor when I take the progressive view and tell them that they are full of it and why.
I don't know how it is up north but here (Florida) there is no question that conservatives are racially motivated. Don't believe them when they say otherwise.
I'm sorry, as a Southerneryou are wrong. we look at you as a traitor for your anti-american views ya dumbass.
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Paint It Black (99 posts) Mon Jan-21-08 04:19 PM
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11. Just look at the prison population in this country
There's your answer.
There is a very highly disproportionate percentage of African-Americans in prison, and a large number of those are because of the insipid "war on drugs". These drug laws give police the excuse they need to harass and intimidate young black men. If you're a young black male driving an expensive car, the assumption by many white cops is that it must be related to drug money. That driver is much more likely to be pulled over and his car searched than would be a conservative looking young white male.
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If cops see a white guy cruising a black neighborhood, they get suspected of looking for drugs. That is racial profiling, and it usually works.
If you're a young black male driving an expensive car and you get pulled over, you don't get in trouble if you don't have drugs in the car.
I was asked the whole "why is 80% of inmates black" question before. My answer was and still is: "Because y'all commit 80% of the crime." End of story.
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I don't know how it is up north but here (Florida) there is no question that conservatives are racially motivated. Don't believe them when they say otherwise.
Don't Cubans tend to vote Conservative? How do the DUmmies explain the racism behind them being Conservative?
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They will not admit LIBERALISM is Evil and Selfish....the MEism Complex personified...
Fixed :-)
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I don't know how it is up north but here (Florida) there is no question that conservatives are racially motivated. Don't believe them when they say otherwise.
Don't Cubans tend to vote Conservative? How do the DUmmies explain the racism behind them being Conservative?
And the sad thing for the DU is this: Dade County (and in turn, Florida) would have gone decisively to Gore had Clinton not ****ed up in the case of the extraction of one Elian Gonzalez. The younger generation was ready to vote Democrat...but when this picture landed in the Miami Herald:
(http://www.athousandandone.com/photos/0/448a07d7cb24f_s.jpg)
It was over.
*TKay*
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If cops see a white guy cruising a black neighborhood, they get suspected of looking for drugs. That is racial profiling, and it usually works.
If you're a young black male driving an expensive car and you get pulled over, you don't get in trouble if you don't have drugs in the car.
I was asked the whole "why is 80% of inmates black" question before. My answer was and still is: "Because y'all commit 80% of the crime." End of story.
I'm wondering if it has more to do with political ideology. I.e., Do Democrats commit more violent crimes? Or do violent criminals tend to vote more Democratic?
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^ is more Liberal projection. The same Imperial Federal boogeyman they claim is a product of Conservatives and * seems to only show up when a Liberal Democrat is in power.
Elian is living proof of that.
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I don't know how it is up north but here (Florida) there is no question that conservatives are racially motivated. Don't believe them when they say otherwise.
Don't Cubans tend to vote Conservative? How do the DUmmies explain the racism behind them being Conservative?
And the sad thing for the DU is this: Dade County would have gone to Gore had Clinton not ****ed up in the case of the extraction of one Elian Gonzalez. The younger generation was ready to vote Democrat...but when this picture landed in the Miami Herald:
(http://www.athousandandone.com/photos/0/448a07d7cb24f_s.jpg)
It was over.
*TKay*
I'm a bit off topic here but just glad to see Elian remembered by a few members here. Likely most if not all people here remember but I'm just proud that it's fresh enough to be brought up even in this context. By 2000 Clinton's list of crimes, lies and betrayals was so long that child abuse was just a blip on the radar. Though this case meant even more than just abuse I guess. I was truely ahamed of my country on that sad day and that picture still burns a hole through my heart every time I see it. (sorry for the rant)
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I'm a bit off topic here but just glad to see Elian remembered by a few members here. Likely most if not all people here remember but I'm just proud that it's fresh enough to be brought up even in this context. By 2000 Clinton's list of crimes, lies and betrayals was so long that child abuse was just a blip on the radar. Though this case meant even more than just abuse I guess. I was truely ahamed of my country on that sad day and that picture still burns a hole through my heart every time I see it. (sorry for the rant)
I live in Miami. . .I went to high school in a neighborhood of Cuban Exiles. I had no choice but to remember the anti-Clinton signs and protests. They came VERY close to shutting Miami down. . .And when W came in, speaking Spanish and saying all the things the exiles needed to hear. . .I think it leant just enough uncertainty to allow him to win.
*TKay*
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I dunno.
I'm always skeptical of people who allege to not be prejudiced in some way, and who accuse others of being prejudiced.
I'm just really skeptical.
It's like that comment Oscar Wilde once made about a dinner guest; "the more he boasted of his virtue, the more I counted the silver and napkins."
(historical reference: during the 1800s, tableware and napkins were considerably more expensive than they are today)
Also, as all psychiatrists and psychologists since Sigmund Freud have pointed out, one cannot recognize a characteristic in another person, unless that same characteristic exists within oneself.
I don't worry about people who make no comment; I worry considerably about Democrats, liberals, and primitives when they boast about not being prejudiced, and accuse others of being prejudiced.
It sets off all sorts of alarms, sirens, flashing lights, in this brain.
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I dunno.
I'm always skeptical of people who allege to not be prejudiced in some way, and who accuse others of being prejudiced.
I'm just really skeptical.
It's like that comment Oscar Wilde once made about a dinner guest; "the more he boasted of his virtue, the more I counted the silver and napkins."
(historical reference: during the 1800s, tableware and napkins were considerably more expensive than they are today)
Also, as all psychiatrists and psychologists since Sigmund Freud have pointed out, one cannot recognize a characteristic in another person, unless that same characteristic exists within oneself.
I don't worry about people who make no comment; I worry considerably about Democrats, liberals, and primitives when they boast about not being prejudiced, and accuse others of being prejudiced.
It sets off all sorts of alarms, sirens, flashing lights, in this brain.
Well put. (and on topic)
As racism is a primitive form of collectivism and the DUers are both collectivist as well as primitives it is quite a stretch to imagine they are immune to racist thinking.
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Paint It Black (95 posts) Mon Jan-21-08 03:49 PM
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Conservatives and rethugs claim they are not racist. I beg to differ.
If you spend any amount of time listening to RW talk shows, they're always quick to point out that they're not racist. Yet, it seems like whenever there is an African-American accused of something (OJ, Wesley Snipes, Barry Bonds, Michael Jackson, etc etc), these folks will almost always assume the person is guilty. Yet when it's a white person involved (ie the Duke Lacrosse players), they're quick to say "innocent until proven guilty".
Well, I don't have a clue about the Wesley Snipes thing, but with OJ his little getaway that wasn't and the trail of blood that led from his ex wife's house to his pretty much gave it away. The cast of Blue's Clues could've solved the case, in spite of the genius jury of his "peers"; especially the one who declared, after seeing DNA BLOOD EVIDENCE, "Well, we all gots blood".
Michael Jackson...is he really black?...the first time I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but when it happens twice, I'd say it's time to forbid the kiddies to have slumber parties with Bubbles the Chimp. Besides, it's not like OJ and MJ are big advocates for the black community...both mostly ignored it until they needed the support and then forgot all about their "people" when they'd outlived their usefulness, which is basically democrat policy anyway.
Barry Bonds, haven't followed the steroid thing too closely (and don't really care, unless they can find a steroid to dramatically speed up the pace of the game), but I don't know he's guilty until I've seen the evidence.
It's not just that, but it's their policies as well. Taking money out of inner-city schools, being against affirmative action, idiotic drug laws that seem designed to target young black men, etc. They claim that they'd rather people help themselves, but then they take away the tools that would allow them to do just that.
If evil republicans are screwing over the black man by taking money out of inner-city schools why is it that Washington DC is consistently in the top 5 of per capita school funding (something around $13,000 I think) and South Dakota, not exactly the hip-hop capital of the world, is down at the bottom?
Affirmative action is one of the most racist policies in the world! It says "you're not good enough or smart enough to do this on your own, so we're just going to give it to you"...and this from the people who treat self esteem like a constitutional mandate.
As far as drug policy goes, wouldn't you tend to be less of a target if you didn't use or deal drugs? Granted, I'm just a middle class white girl from the suburbs, but I was a pretty wild child when I was a teenager and believe me...I wish my race and socioeconomic circumstances would've gotten me out of trouble a couple of times.
It just seems to me that on any given issue that involves race, they will almost always come down on the wrong side. I'm not saying that every single conservative or rethug is a closet racist - but their party and their policies sure as hell are.
The "wrong" side? How about just a different point of view? Clean your own house first. When you folks on the left can stop referring to black conservatives as "Uncle Toms", "house Negroes", Aunt Jemima", to name but a few, just because they don't have the same world view as those of you who think black folk need to live on the government plantation, then maybe we can talk. Frankly, I think its mostly a case of too many uppity black people and you'll lose a major voting block.
You may not have them picking cotton anymore but if NOLA is an example of democratic largess, it's a good thing the left also controls the education system and can keep them oblivious to what's really going on. Then again, maybe it's really just that you're subliminally SO guilt-ridden about the utter failure of your policies, keeping all the downtrodden in one place gives you a central location to focus all that angst. Besides, it makes it easier to trot them out every 4 years when you need their votes. But, hey, at least your intentions are good.
Cindie
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DUmmies are delusional who want to perpetuate the race war. I hate people who say they are not prejudiced. Everyone is prejudiced.
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Elian's seizure cost Al Gore and the Dems the election in 2000 in Florida, which upsets the DUmmies to this very day.
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Paint It Black (95 posts) Mon Jan-21-08 03:49 PM
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Conservatives and rethugs claim they are not racist. I beg to differ.
If you spend any amount of time listening to RW talk shows, they're always quick to point out that they're not racist. Yet, it seems like whenever there is an African-American accused of something (OJ, Wesley Snipes, Barry Bonds, Michael Jackson, etc etc), these folks will almost always assume the person is guilty. Yet when it's a white person involved (ie the Duke Lacrosse players), they're quick to say "innocent until proven guilty".
Well, I don't have a clue about the Wesley Snipes thing, but with OJ his little getaway that wasn't and the trail of blood that led from his ex wife's house to his pretty much gave it away. The cast of Blue's Clues could've solved the case, in spite of the genius jury of his "peers"; especially the one who declared, after seeing DNA BLOOD EVIDENCE, "Well, we all gots blood".
Michael Jackson...is he really black?...the first time I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but when it happens twice, I'd say it's time to forbid the kiddies to have slumber parties with Bubbles the Chimp. Besides, it's not like OJ and MJ are big advocates for the black community...both mostly ignored it until they needed the support and then forgot all about their "people" when they'd outlived their usefulness, which is basically democrat policy anyway.
Barry Bonds, haven't followed the steroid thing too closely (and don't really care, unless they can find a steroid to dramatically speed up the pace of the game), but I don't know he's guilty until I've seen the evidence.
It's not just that, but it's their policies as well. Taking money out of inner-city schools, being against affirmative action, idiotic drug laws that seem designed to target young black men, etc. They claim that they'd rather people help themselves, but then they take away the tools that would allow them to do just that.
If evil republicans are screwing over the black man by taking money out of inner-city schools why is it that Washington DC is consistently in the top 5 of per capita school funding (something around $13,000 I think) and South Dakota, not exactly the hip-hop capital of the world, is down at the bottom?
Affirmative action is one of the most racist policies in the world! It says "you're not good enough or smart enough to do this on your own, so we're just going to give it to you"...and this from the people who treat self esteem like a constitutional mandate.
As far as drug policy goes, wouldn't you tend to be less of a target if you didn't use or deal drugs? Granted, I'm just a middle class white girl from the suburbs, but I was a pretty wild child when I was a teenager and believe me...I wish my race and socioeconomic circumstances would've gotten me out of trouble a couple of times.
It just seems to me that on any given issue that involves race, they will almost always come down on the wrong side. I'm not saying that every single conservative or rethug is a closet racist - but their party and their policies sure as hell are.
The "wrong" side? How about just a different point of view? Clean your own house first. When you folks on the left can stop referring to black conservatives as "Uncle Toms", "house Negroes", Aunt Jemima", to name but a few, just because they don't have the same world view as those of you who think black folk need to live on the government plantation, then maybe we can talk. Frankly, I think its mostly a case of too many uppity black people and you'll lose a major voting block.
You may not have them picking cotton anymore but if NOLA is an example of democratic largess, it's a good thing the left also controls the education system and can keep them oblivious to what's really going on. Then again, maybe it's really just that you're subliminally SO guilt-ridden about the utter failure of your policies, keeping all the downtrodden in one place gives you a central location to focus all that angst. Besides, it makes it easier to trot them out every 4 years when you need their votes. But, hey, at least your intentions are good.
Cindie
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In a liberals mind it's perfectly ok to be white; as long as you feel appropriatly guilty for being so. If you're a minority however then you can do no wrong. Personally, I think an asshole's an asshole, regardless of what color their skin may be.