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Title: 'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendm
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 27, 2018, 10:28:26 PM
'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendment Repeal
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/03/27/john-paul-stevens-calls-repeal-second-amendment-and-gun-control

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Jesse Watters reacted to an op-ed by retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens who said "March For Our Lives" participants should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.

The 97-year-old Stevens, a Republican nominated by President Gerald Ford, said repealing the right to bear arms is the most effective "lasting reform" that could be sought on the matter.

"There'll be a Civil War if you take away the Second Amendment," Watters said. "[The government would say] surrender your weapons or else."

Good thing he is not in the Supreme Court.
Title: Re: 'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendm
Post by: thundley4 on March 27, 2018, 10:42:43 PM
'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendment Repeal
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/03/27/john-paul-stevens-calls-repeal-second-amendment-and-gun-control

John Paul Stevens needs to step down. He is almost 100!

He is retired.
Title: Re: 'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendm
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 27, 2018, 10:44:28 PM
He is retired.

My bad! :thatsright:

I corrected it.
Title: Re: 'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendm
Post by: DLR Pyro on March 28, 2018, 08:58:11 AM
I've never fully trusted a guy who wears bow ties on a regular basis....
Title: Re: 'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendm
Post by: Old n Grumpy on March 28, 2018, 10:17:07 AM
He is retired.

Actually he is retarded. old age has befuddled hi brain, just like Mccain.
Title: Re: 'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendm
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 28, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
Actually he is retarded. old age has befuddled hi brain, just like Mccain.

He cited dementia as a reason for his stepping down from the SCOTUS. :whistling:
Title: Re: 'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendm
Post by: FlaGator on March 28, 2018, 11:53:37 AM
He wasn't all together with it before he left the Supreme Court. He is not an advocate of individual rights so supporting the elimination of the 2nd Amendment is not a big leap in philosophy for him.
Title: Re: 'There'll Be a Civil War': Watters Blasts John Paul Stevens' Call for 2nd Amendm
Post by: mrclose on April 09, 2018, 05:20:25 PM

The vast majority of people who believe that the government has the right to regulate gun ownership by passing new laws ... have a poor understanding of our Constitution!

Most of the arguments about the Second Amendment ... made by both sides, revolve around a single assumption - that the Second Amendment grants a citizen the right to bear arms.

What both sides fail to understand is that the Second Amendment grants no such right, in fact, the Constitution grants no rights at all!

What the Constitution does do is identify what powers the people grant to the government.

This is the whole purpose of the Constitution - to tell the government what it can and cannot do, our Constitution is a limit on government.

That is why Marxists, Socialist, Progressive Democrats, et al. have such a disdain for our Constitution .. it is a limitation on Government not a limitation on We The People.

Read the Second Amendment closely.
Nowhere does it state that the people have a right to bear arms but rather that the government cannot infringe on that right.

The framers of our Constitution believed that our right to bear arms is a natural right , not a right to be given to us by government.


Amendment II

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A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

That’s it, that is the whole 2nd Amendment.
Where does it say that the government gives us any right?
It doesn’t, it only says that the government cannot infringe on this right.

And when the often used argument arises that we will all be safer if we pass (another) gun law .. I am reminded on how one of our Founding Fathers would respond to that ..

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"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery".

Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

Put another way: I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude..

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Today, when a concerted effort is made to obliterate this point, it cannot be repeated too often that the Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals- that it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government- that it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen’s protection against the government.Ayn Rand

And the argument that automatic military style weapons didn't exist at the time the 2nd amendment was drawn up is pure ignorance, as can be seen here: https://mrclose.neocities.org/