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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on February 21, 2018, 06:37:08 AM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210258952
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 06:25 PM
Baconator (1,148 posts)
6 Reasons Your Right-Wing Friend Isnt Coming To Your Side On Gun Control
"There are several reasons Second Amendment advocates aren’t running to your side of the argument, and it might not be the ones you think."
http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/06/6-reasons-right-wing-friend-isnt-coming-side-gun-control/
1. We Rarely Get to Come to the Conversation in Good Faith
2. The ‘Blood on Their Hands’ Attacks Are Offensive
3. The Loudest Voices Are Often the Most Ignorant
4. The Most Prominent Policy Ideas Have Nothing to Do With the Tragedy
5. We Seriously Don’t Care About Gun Laws in Other Countries
6. We Really Do Consider Owning Firearms a Right
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I always find it helpful to look at a problem from all sides. Very few folks see themselves as the enemy.
Author, source etc... all on the other side of the spectrum but in the end the question should be "Do we want to fight?" or "Do we want results? If so, what are those...?"
Working with some good faith could go a long ways...
edit: Added the 6 Reasons. More at the article...
This thread is a prime example of why we'll never be able to have nice things. These people demonstrate, yet again, they are ignorant of a subject and PROUD of that fact.
Iggo (37,243 posts)
1. **** 'em. Don't care.
Yup, first rattle out of the box.
I don't have time to grab anymore of them right now, but the thread is huge and THAT is what most of it is. They don't want to talk, AT ALL, and they don't realize who the real fascists are ...
KC
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6 Reasons Your Right-Wing Friend Isnt Coming To Your Side On Gun Control
DUmmies have right wing friends?
I see no evidence to support that.
Iggo (37,243 posts)
1. **** 'em. Don't care.
How do you defeat such a well-thought out argument as this?
And this is one of the better ones!
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It's 5:12 AM PDT and the OP hasn't been deleted for being from a "Reich-Wing source". I'm mildly surprised. As for the content:
1. We Rarely Get to Come to the Conversation in Good Faith
Gun grabbers talk about only wanting "common sense gun control", but what they propose is nonsensical, won't solve anything, and are intended to be steps toward outlawing and confiscating all legally owned guns.
2. The ‘Blood on Their Hands’ Attacks Are Offensive
And ubiquitous! And gun-grabbers' first, last, and always "argument". Pointing out to gun-grabbers that clubbing law-abiding decent people with false accusations of complicity with murder is counter-persuasive is also futile. Gun-grabbers are hate-driven. They will NEVER give up this rhetorical club.
3. The Loudest Voices Are Often the Most Ignorant
Gun-grabbers ignorance of what they hate is as mythic as it is monumental. And the moment someone less ignorant calls out the laughable errors that destroy their credibility, gun grabbers dismiss the importance of facts.
4. The Most Prominent Policy Ideas Have Nothing to Do With the Tragedy
No law on the books and nothing proposed would have prevented any of the attacks. Most are irrelevant to how mass shooters got their guns, and someone whose mind won't hesitate to commit murder won't hesitate to break laws to obtain a gun or be deterred by "Gun Free Zones". In fact, to someone bent on killing lots of random people, "Gun Free Zone" means Plentiful Undefended Targets!
5. We Seriously Don’t Care About Gun Laws in Other Countries
(Name of country)'s history, culture, and social structure/make-up are different than ours. One size does and cannot not fit all.
6. We Really Do Consider Owning Firearms a Right
The Second Amendment officially recognizes and affirms that right.
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Star Member Hoyt (32,780 posts)
124. Lots of things are legal, but deplorable and immoral. Gunner racism may be OK
with you, after all most, with a few exceptions, gunners are white wing racists. But it’s not OK with me. Gunners are also quite selfish, thinking of themselves rather than society.
Marengo (2,734 posts)
127. Robbery is immoral and selfish, but that didnt stop you.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=45338
Ok how do I H5 a DUmmie. :lmao:
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Or it's because we see through your bullshit.
(https://i.redd.it/6s9n6l9yqkh01.jpg)
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Ok how do I H5 a DUmmie. :lmao:
LOL!! Great find!!
LC
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Ok how do I H5 a DUmmie. :lmao:
Here's another.
Response to Hoyt (Reply #87)Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:30 PM
AncientGeezer (190 posts)
200. Well...per you
"Hoyt (32,780 posts)
43. As a former robber, I locked the door to keep people out, especially police."
You are the reason some want to be armed
I say job well done to whichever one of you guys is AncientGeezer.