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Title: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 10:57:51 AM
Also running thread at FR:

FR LINK (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2064229/posts)

HALPERIN LINK (http://thepage.time.com/2008/08/19/say-it-is-so-joe/)

Oh God, please let it be Biden....




**WE changed thread title slightly to include Biden's name**
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: Hawkgirl on August 19, 2008, 11:51:16 AM
I heard Michelle was against a Biden pick...but no, she won't be weighing in on policy...she's only going to be the first prime time speaker at their convention and of course her approval is needed in a VP pick.  Is this the Michelle presidency?
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 12:01:48 PM
I think the obama campaign is running a bunch of incorrect information out there to get the MSM spun up into a frenzy, and then name someone that hasn't been part of the past 36 hours of insane speculation.  it would maximize the impact of his nominee when he finally makes it public.

THAT would be fairly good media management/manipulation.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 12:07:11 PM
Also running thread at FR:

FR LINK (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2064229/posts)

HALPERIN LINK (http://thepage.time.com/2008/08/19/say-it-is-so-joe/)

Oh God, please let it be Biden....

picking biden wold make it a bit difficult to rail against john mccain's 26 years of being part of the old politics, part of the problem, & etc., & etc.  but biden would mitigate the "dangerous, clueless newbie at the controls" problem.

Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 12:10:45 PM
I heard Michelle was against a Biden pick...but no, she won't be weighing in on policy...she's only going to be the first prime time speaker at their convention and of course her approval is needed in a VP pick.  Is this the Michelle presidency?

I heard the same thing, but I think we've heard just about everything over the past several days.  biden is a very experienced, very smart (for a democrat) guy, but he got, what, 2% of the vote in the primaries?  he was an total non-entity, reduced in several of the debates to grousing about how much camera time he wasn't getting. 

he's grating on the stump and almost clinically impressed with his own brilliance . . .

Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: Chris_ on August 19, 2008, 12:12:47 PM
I heard Michelle was against a Biden pick...but no, she won't be weighing in on policy...she's only going to be the first prime time speaker at their convention and of course her approval is needed in a VP pick.  Is this the Michelle presidency?

I'm thinking Michelle had got a "testicle lock-box" that makes Hillary's look like velvet gloves.  Me thinks that there are going to be a whole lot of prominent suicides in Ft. Marcy Park should Teh Obamessiah manage to get elected ReichsChancellor für das leben in November.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 12:19:28 PM

if it is biden, we will have a wealth of great material from his primary run to use against The BarackStar!

biden was pretty lethal about obama's lack of experience, and treated him rather dismissively even after most people had come to accept his messiah-ness.


Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Chris_ on August 19, 2008, 12:29:17 PM

if it is biden, we will have a wealth of great material from his primary run to use against The BarackStar!

biden was pretty lethal about obama's lack of experience, and treated him rather dismissively even after most people had come to accept his messiah-ness.




Ahh but wasn't it Biden who was the first to come forward praising teh Obamessiah for being "a clean, articulate black man"?

Might have been Chuckie Schumer...

Nah.  Schumer's balls have been in Hillary's lock box for years now.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 12:48:08 PM

if it is biden, we will have a wealth of great material from his primary run to use against The BarackStar!

biden was pretty lethal about obama's lack of experience, and treated him rather dismissively even after most people had come to accept his messiah-ness.




Ahh but wasn't it Biden who was the first to come forward praising teh Obamessiah for being "a clean, articulate black man"?

Might have been Chuckie Schumer...

Nah.  Schumer's balls have been in Hillary's lock box for years now.


Biden said that BHO is " . . . first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."

at least he didn't call him a "typical black person" :whatever:  God knows that would have gotten him into trouble.

Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Chris_ on August 19, 2008, 12:59:36 PM
If it's Biden, I wonder who he'll plagerize for his acceptance speech.
I seem to recall him having a problem coming up with original material in the past.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 01:00:46 PM
If it's Biden, I wonder who he'll plagerize for his acceptance speech.
I seem to recall him having a problem coming up with original material in the past.

at least the running mates will have that in common. :whatever:
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Chris_ on August 19, 2008, 01:09:06 PM
If it's Biden, I wonder who he'll plagerize for his acceptance speech.
I seem to recall him having a problem coming up with original material in the past.

at least the running mates will have that in common. :whatever:

Maybe the two of them can hire Ward Churchill as a speechwriter.  He's made a living for nearly 20 years doing that in PR Boulder
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Splashdown on August 19, 2008, 01:11:08 PM
I don't think it'll be Biden. He's prone to say such amazingly dumb things.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Chris_ on August 19, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
I don't think it'll be Biden. He's prone to say such amazingly dumb things.

That's his selling point.  He'll take the pressure off of Teh BarackStar! and the amazingly stupid things HE  says.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Chris_ on August 19, 2008, 01:22:51 PM
Obama's Speech Writer Found! (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=945_1211394580)
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: NHSparky on August 19, 2008, 02:01:31 PM
I heard Michelle was against a Biden pick...but no, she won't be weighing in on policy...she's only going to be the first prime time speaker at their convention and of course her approval is needed in a VP pick.  Is this the Michelle presidency?

I heard the same thing, but I think we've heard just about everything over the past several days.  biden is a very experienced, very smart (for a democrat) guy, but he got, what, 2% of the vote in the primaries?  he was an total non-entity, reduced in several of the debates to grousing about how much camera time he wasn't getting. 

he's grating on the stump and almost clinically impressed with his own brilliance . . .



Dude--Biden is so vapid even Fat Teddy said of him that "he has the intellectual depth of a bedroom slipper."
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: NHSparky on August 19, 2008, 02:02:50 PM
I don't think it'll be Biden. He's prone to say such amazingly dumb things.

All the more reason to choose Biden.  You simply can't have anyone the intellectual superior of the top man on the ticket.  Problem is, look how far they had to go to find someone dumber than Obama.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Jim on August 19, 2008, 03:02:14 PM
Also running thread at FR:

FR LINK (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2064229/posts)

HALPERIN LINK (http://thepage.time.com/2008/08/19/say-it-is-so-joe/)

Oh God, please let it be Biden....

picking biden wold make it a bit difficult to rail against john mccain's 26 years of being part of the old politics, part of the problem, & etc., & etc.  but biden would mitigate the "dangerous, clueless newbie at the controls" problem.




if the DNC has any say (and I don't think they do anymore) its HRC, Biden, Byah to try and offset BHO's soft spots.  In the end it won't matter, BHO cannot win.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: Chris on August 19, 2008, 03:11:32 PM
I think the obama campaign is running a bunch of incorrect information out there to get the MSM spun up into a frenzy, and then name someone that hasn't been part of the past 36 hours of insane speculation.  it would maximize the impact of his nominee when he finally makes it public.

THAT would be fairly good media management/manipulation.

I think he's doing it to distract them from his craptastic performance Saturday night.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: Jim on August 19, 2008, 03:15:56 PM
I heard Michelle was against a Biden pick...but no, she won't be weighing in on policy...she's only going to be the first prime time speaker at their convention and of course her approval is needed in a VP pick.  Is this the Michelle presidency?

I heard the same thing, but I think we've heard just about everything over the past several days.  biden is a very experienced, very smart (for a democrat) guy, but he got, what, 2% of the vote in the primaries?  he was an total non-entity, reduced in several of the debates to grousing about how much camera time he wasn't getting. 

he's grating on the stump and almost clinically impressed with his own brilliance . . .



Dude--Biden is so vapid even Fat Teddy said of him that "he has the intellectual depth of a bedroom slipper."



thats got to sting coming from the Killer
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 03:16:01 PM
I think the obama campaign is running a bunch of incorrect information out there to get the MSM spun up into a frenzy, and then name someone that hasn't been part of the past 36 hours of insane speculation.  it would maximize the impact of his nominee when he finally makes it public.

THAT would be fairly good media management/manipulation.

I think he's doing it to distract them from his craptastic performance Saturday night.

I dunno . . . the only noise I am really hearing from the MSM is how mccain cheated. :whatever:  if I hadn't seen The BarackStar! get smoked with my own eyes, I could be forgiven for believing that the whole thing was a sort of a non-event.

but if it was that big of a problem, they would probably just announce the nominee a day or two earlier.

naw, I think this is (veep) "pick-tease". :-)
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Tess Anderson on August 19, 2008, 03:43:07 PM
I think it's both - BHO wants to do something to mitigate his "performance" in the Saddleback fiasco, and it's time to get more free positive publicity - there's less than a week to go until the DNC.

I think it's Joe Bite 'em, though I wish it were Kaine (nOOb with nOOb). All JoJo or any other VP pick has to do is to adore him - BHO would pick himself for VP if he could.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 19, 2008, 03:50:54 PM
I think it's both - BHO wants to do something to mitigate his "performance" in the Saddleback fiasco, and it's time to get more free positive publicity - there's less than a week to go until the DNC.

I think it's Joe Bite 'em, though I wish it were Kaine (nOOb with nOOb). All JoJo or any other VP pick has to do is to adore him - BHO would pick himself for VP if he could.

I would be surprised if they were willing to admit, even to themselves, that they got blown out at saddleback.  I think they
are being 100% sincere when they say that their guy was "thoughtful and intelligent" and mccain "shot from the hip", which,
come to think about it, is what they say about him no matter what he does these days.  "shot from the hip" was what susan
rice said about mccains response to the russian invasion of georgia before The BarackStar! found himself agreeing with it. :whatever:

the Obamians need more wordz in their talking points memoz.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 19, 2008, 03:53:48 PM
Biden is a world-class blowhard and vastly overestimates his own intelligence, but for some reason he seems to have an unfathomable amount of good will within the Democratic Party.  It is certainly a possibility.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: Chris on August 19, 2008, 04:02:02 PM
I would be surprised if they were willing to admit, even to themselves, that they got blown out at saddleback.  I think they are being 100% sincere when they say that their guy was "thoughtful and intelligent" and mccain "shot from the hip", which, come to think about it, is what they say about him no matter what he does these days.  "shot from the hip" was what susan rice said about mccains response to the russian invasion of georgia before The BarackStar! found himself agreeing with it. :whatever:

That reminds me of John Hawkin's live-blog (http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2008/08/liveblogging_the_purpose_drive_1.php) of the Saddleback forum.  It was hilarious.

8:00: The debate hasn't even started yet and I am already slightly bored. I think it's because I anticipate nothing but huge, floating softball questions all night long. I hope it doesn't turn out that way.

8:04: The first question sounds like something you'd hear from a Jr. High school student. This may be even duller and fluffier than I thought.

8:05: B.O.'s grandma, who was last seen after being thrown under the bus for being a racist, is going to be giving Obama advice. Goody!

8:12: My biggest mistake: thinking liveblogging this whole thing would be a good idea. Hitting myself in the face with a hammer would be less painful...
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP???
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 20, 2008, 12:00:26 AM
I think the obama campaign is running a bunch of incorrect information out there to get the MSM spun up into a frenzy, and then name someone that hasn't been part of the past 36 hours of insane speculation.  it would maximize the impact of his nominee when he finally makes it public.

THAT would be fairly good media management/manipulation.

I think he's doing it to distract them from his craptastic performance Saturday night.

his vote in 2003 for infanticide is getting a lot of attention in the MSM (well, "a lot" for them, anyway).  naming his veep will allow them to sweep that under the rug, as well.

that vote is going to be very, very difficult to explain.
Title: Re: Barackstar's VP Choice--too good to be true for GOP??? (Biden?!?!)
Post by: NHSparky on August 23, 2008, 07:07:59 AM
Just remember folks, you heard it HERE first...

Oh, this is gonna get ugly come November.