The Conservative Cave

Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on January 25, 2018, 10:56:54 PM

Title: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: dutch508 on January 25, 2018, 10:56:54 PM
Quote
highplainsdem (15,379 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210145834


David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

He thinks it's a real possibility.

 :thatsright:

S
Quote
tar Member bdamomma (45,769 posts)

4. heard that    Good that he is out of the country now, he's probably over the top now. tRump is very unpredictable which could be a very dangerous thing.

Quote
scheming daemons (23,120 posts)

7. I doubt the Pentagon brass are big fans of Trump.

They'd resist the orders.

 :stoner: The military in general love Trump.

Quote
Star Member TomSlick (983 posts)

15. My expectation is that the military would refuse such an order.

Military officers' oath is to the constitution. That oath - for want of a better word - trumps the duty to obedience to the President. Military officers are taught from their earliest days they have a duty to disobey illegal orders - that obedience to orders is the "Nuremberg defense" and the Nuremberg defendants were hanged. After nearly thirty years of duty as an Army JAG, I know the lawyers would be screaming bloody murder threatening prosecution for sedition (Article 94, UCMJ).

I have no reason to believe that the military would participate in a coup d'etat.

Quote
blueinredohio (967 posts)

22. I've said all along if something happens we are going to have a hard time getting rid of him

He's going to call on his crazy base to defend him. Hopefully the military will be on our side.

You may well get the civil war you idiots always scream for...
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: SVPete on January 26, 2018, 07:12:50 AM
Quote
highplainsdem (15,379 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210145834


David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

He thinks it's a real possibility.

Nah, the transition to the next POTUS in January, 2025 will happen as it should. And Trump and his peeps will do it with a lot more class than Clinton and his peeps did.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on January 26, 2018, 08:55:19 AM
Quote
Star Member TomSlick (983 posts)

15. My expectation is that the military would refuse such an order.

Military officers' oath is to the constitution. That oath - for want of a better word - trumps the duty to obedience to the President. Military officers are taught from their earliest days they have a duty to disobey illegal orders - that obedience to orders is the "Nuremberg defense" and the Nuremberg defendants were hanged. After nearly thirty years of duty as an Army JAG, I know the lawyers would be screaming bloody murder threatening prosecution for sedition (Article 94, UCMJ).

I have no reason to believe that the military would participate in a coup d'etat.
So...Oath Keepers then? Weren't they racist when Obama was president?
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 26, 2018, 09:06:50 AM
Quote
David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

Who TF is that, and why would anyone give a rat's ass what he thinks? 
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: BadCat on January 26, 2018, 09:39:50 AM
Who TF is that, and why would anyone give a rat's ass what he thinks?

Quote
David Cay Boyle Johnston (born December 24, 1948)[1] is an American investigative journalist and author, a specialist in economics and tax issues, and winner of the 2001 Pulitzer Prize for Beat Reporting.

From 2009 to 2014 he was a Distinguished Visiting Lecturer who taught the tax, property, and regulatory law of the ancient world at Syracuse University College of Law and the Whitman School of Management. From July 2011 until September 2012 he was a columnist for Reuters, writing, and producing video commentaries, on worldwide issues of tax, accounting, economics, public finance and business. Johnston is the board president of Investigative Reporters and Editors.[2] He has also written for Al Jazeera English and America in recent years.

What else would you expect?
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Old n Grumpy on January 26, 2018, 09:50:10 AM
Quote
highplainsdem (15,379 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210145834


David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

He thinks it's a real possibility.

he is just another ass hole liberal. we will use the military to round up all you resistors, blm, antifa etc. And make America great again!!
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Fourwinds on January 26, 2018, 10:04:37 AM
Well, if you leftist assholes attempt a coup damn right he would use the military.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on January 26, 2018, 10:31:25 AM
"Marshall" Law!!!  :ohnoes:
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Mr Mannn on January 26, 2018, 11:07:34 AM
Why use the military to retain what you won with the votes of free men?

Still, the very thought that anti-gun DUmmies live in fear of men with guns is a good thing. All the easier to round them up for the FEMA camps.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Mr Mannn on January 26, 2018, 11:08:55 AM
"Marshall" Law!!!  :ohnoes:

I have always found Marital Law far more frightening.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: SVPete on January 26, 2018, 11:16:36 AM
Who TF is that, and why would anyone give a rat's ass what he thinks?

Someone blathering what DU folk want to hear.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: BattleHymn on January 26, 2018, 12:14:35 PM
DU is too stupid to realize they're being played like a fiddle for ratings.

The owner comes home, and kicks the cat.  The cat turns around and kicks the mouse.  So it is the way of things.

Trump comes to power, and kicks the MSM.  The MSM turns around and kicks their viewers.  So it is the way of things.



Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: SVPete on January 26, 2018, 12:41:12 PM
The, "To ask is to answer," question of the day: Were the DU threads in 2003, 2004, 2007, and 2008 claiming George W. Bush would use the military to usurp the Presidency from Kerry and Obama?
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on January 26, 2018, 02:52:34 PM
I have always found Marital Law far more frightening.

 :rotf: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Wineslob on January 26, 2018, 03:27:54 PM
The, "To ask is to answer," question of the day: Were the DU threads in 2003, 2004, 2007, and 2008 claiming George W. Bush would use the military to usurp the Presidency from Kerry and Obama?

THIS
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Ausonius on January 26, 2018, 03:30:25 PM
Nah, the transition to the next POTUS in January, 2025 will happen as it should. And Trump and his peeps will do it with a lot more class than Clinton and his peeps did.

I remember that!  For those who do not, the reference is to the trashing of the White House by Clintonistas before W. Bush took over in 2000.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: FlaGator on January 26, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
Not this crap again. The claimed the same about Bush.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: I_B_Perky on January 26, 2018, 06:54:24 PM
I have always found Marital Law far more frightening.

Worse than the IRS!  The IRS only lays claim to some of your stuff. Marital Law lays claim to all your stuff.   :lmao:

What is the old saying?  What's hers is hers and what's yours is hers.... and if you want to stay married you will like it that way!   :rotf:
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: I_B_Perky on January 26, 2018, 06:57:04 PM
Quote
    highplainsdem (15,379 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210145834


    David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

    He thinks it's a real possibility.


I don't think he would have to "use" them, dummie. I think they would do it all on their own... as they would if they saw any president getting illegally railroaded out of office.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: DUmpsterDiver on January 26, 2018, 07:50:27 PM
Yeah?  Some of us never retire from serving the USA.  Watch yer back you commie scum.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 26, 2018, 08:49:30 PM
Yeah?  Some of us never retire from serving the USA.  Watch yer back you commie scum.

As I seem to recall, that oath to protect and defend "the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic" didn't have an expiration date.  Let's get it on!
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 26, 2018, 09:20:46 PM
Quote
highplainsdem (15,379 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210145834


David Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power

He thinks it's a real possibility.

Lay off the pot.
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: Airwolf on January 27, 2018, 11:49:38 AM
Damn,This crap again. They must think highly of themselves to think they are going to be the ones to save the country even if this did happen. The very people that hate guns and "violence" until they want to use guns to commit violence.
 
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: DUmpDiver on January 28, 2018, 01:51:28 AM
It's already happening. I have proof!

(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/12/Trump-Marine-One-Hat-Manuel-Balce-Ceneta-640x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump might try to use military to retain power
Post by: SVPete on January 28, 2018, 09:27:19 AM
Well, if you leftist assholes attempt a coup damn right he would use the military.

A very belated :hi5: !