The Conservative Cave
Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: fatboy on January 25, 2018, 08:16:25 AM
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Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:21 PM
Star Member CK_John (9,789 posts)
Is there any reason to prevent Mexico from closing the border???
If they wanted too.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210141872
The premise here being that the Mexican's are going to punish President Trump for doing exactly what he said he would do. And that is 1. control the southern boarder, and 2. replace NAFTA with something that makes sense for the USA.
So.. the tough talking weenie's at the dump now have a chance to express thier belief that President Trump is picking a fight with the wrong crowd...
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The point is Mexico should want to. The only type of country that would not do all it could to prevent its citizens from crossing into its neighbor's borders without proper permission (illegally) is a country whose leaders are a bunch of filthy scumbags.
Hey Mexicans, ever notice the USA doesn't have that same problem with Canadians? Ever wonder why?
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Why would Mexico want to? Illegal immigration gets energetic people who could be a threat to Mexico's corrupticrats out of the country. Illegals working in the US send their relatives in Mexico several billion dollars a year, a significant addition to the US economy. Drug runners satisfy corrupt Mexican pols', "Screw the Yankees," desires.
Why should Mexico want to? Because the drug-running criminals have corrupted and taken over much of Mexico. Which means the Mexican pols who figure this out and try to counter-act it often do so at the cost of their lives.
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Mexico would collapse with out American trade. They need our money to badly.
roamer65 (13,586 posts)
6. Mexico will not shut the door to its former territories.
romer65 is a special kind of stupid. :loser: :thatsright:
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The point is Mexico should want to. The only type of country that would not do all it could to prevent its citizens from crossing into its neighbor's borders without proper permission (illegally) is a country whose leaders are a bunch of filthy scumbags.
Hey Mexicans, ever notice the USA doesn't have that same problem with Canadians? Ever wonder why?
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Like the Berlin wall?
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Response to CK_John (Original post)
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:57 PM
L. Coyote (47,017 posts)
5. No. Is there any reason to NOT open the border from Mexico?
Sometimes we don't ask the correct questions. Why isn't the Mexico border an open border?
Since laws don`t matter to you I guess you would be fine with border crossers accidentally wandering in front of a target range.
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Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:21 PM
Star Member CK_John (9,789 posts)
Is there any reason to prevent Mexico from closing the border???
If they wanted too.
They don't have to. They actually enforce their immigration laws........
:thatsright:
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They don't have to. They actually enforce their immigration laws........
:thatsright:
Funny how that works. Every country in the world has strict immigration laws but the US is the only one that gets called racist for wanting to control their borders.
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Mexico's #2 source of revenue is the tourist trade. First is wife transfers from the US and third is oil.
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Actually, I'd LOVE to have Mexico's immigration policy. When I was Ban, I always threw in crumbs about "how the racist white American Republicanists need to look to Mexico and apply its just immigration policies over our oppressive, draconian laws." Never got any squawk about it.
Here are some of those "just Mexican immigration policies."
At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the U.S. look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
- in the country legally;
- have the means to sustain themselves economically;
- not destined to be burdens on society;
- of economic and social benefit to society;
- of good character and have no criminal records; and
- contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:
- immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
- foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
- foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
- foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
- foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
- those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.
Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
- Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)
- Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)
- Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)
- The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
- Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
- A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
- A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).
Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
- Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
- Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
- Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
- Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
- Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.
Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,
- “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)
- Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
- Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:
- A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
- Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)
Yes, Hernando. Mexican immigration laws be da bomb.