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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on August 18, 2008, 02:53:38 PM
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propel (107 posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:32 PM
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WE HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE...WE HAVE NO CHOICE
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3814757I'm in Georgia, so I know the perceptions and the attitudes towards liberals and the Democratic Party.
People we have simply got to fight. We can't just turn over the Christian vote and ridicule Christians and their voters
and expect to prosper from that strategy.
It's fine amongst liberals to make snide comments about evangelical figure heads and so forth in our society but if that
attitude is displayed in society as a whole we may very well come out on the losing edge.
We need to be honest with ourselves and not live in denial.
TOO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE JESUS IS LORD
Barack Obama did nothing to win those voters, we can just laugh it off and say they were voting for McCain anyway, but I believe we are not doing ourselves a service ......
THIS IS ABOUT THE COLD HARD REALITIES OF THE VOTING DEMOGRAPHICS PEOPLE.
GW BUSH beat Al Gore and John Kerry in terms of land mass or counties won ....about 4 to 1 or 5 to 1.
How strong can our Party be by just winning in the strictly very very densely populated areas.
When in Rome do as the Romans do.....these Romans believe Jesus is Lord whether we like it or not.
Barack Obama didn't do a good job of swaying those voters.....WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
peace13 (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:36 PM
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2. Note to self.....
GW did not beat Kerry or Gore in America. Welcome to DU.
reality based community.
propel (107 posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:40 PM
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7. EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
Don't live in denial.
GW BUSH won about 80% of the counties in this country...so what...it's over with.
What I'm sayin' is.....WE HAVE TO FIGHT.
WE HAVE TO TAKE UP THE BATTLE AND ENGAGE THEM.
WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO FIGHT.
All you do is live in denial.
lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:40 PM
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6. I'll leave all that crazy chas'n to you.
And welcome to DU!
chisel chisel chisel
propel (107 posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:43 PM
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10. WHAT ARE YOU SAYIN ???
To give up that many votes?
Granted, I may have a skewered perspective because there is a church on every street corner in GA.
But regardless whether my perspective is skewered or not.
I REALLY FEEL WE NEED TO FIGHT.
Yuo dont get anywhere by caving in....or sayin'...."ah, you can have those voters"
FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:45 PM
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13. WTF? Barack Obama didn't do a good job of swaying those voters?
How in the hell do you know? Because the corporate media told you so? Because Republicans paid $1,000 per seat to provide McCain with a tilted audience?
John McCain lied about his faith. He is not really a Baptist.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
John McCain lied about his POW Tear Jerk Story, and plagiarized it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/08/the-eve...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/20...
propel (107 posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:59 PM
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21. YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE ME
I'm from GA...and what you might see as making inroads, I may not see as making inroads...or haven't heard it.
I wish I lived in a place where I could find some positive words about Barack Obama.
It's like living in Iraq with Saddam Hussein having an election.
Of course everyone you talk to is voting for Saddam (McCain)...lol
:mental:
propel (107 posts) Mon Aug-18-08 12:01 AM
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23. FIGHT
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT....tell 'em what they want to hear if that's what it takes.
propel (107 posts) Mon Aug-18-08 12:15 AM
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27. I question the whole night
To be honest, I don't like the whole deck stacked against Obama charade.
If you talk to lesbians, tell the lesbians you love them and support their issues.
Talk to Union workers...do the same thing.
If you talk to Christians.....
TELL EM WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR OR DON'T GO.
Politics is tough business....lie if you have to.....
...we have to win this election.
propel (107 posts) Mon Aug-18-08 12:24 AM
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30. WIn
If pandering is winning...pander.
If fighting is winning...fight.
If having sex in a big bowl of jello will get Obama in the White House
HAVE SEX IN A BIG BOWL OF JELLO.
propel (107 posts) Mon Aug-18-08 12:40 AM
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38. I have faith
Give me a little leeway people ....I'm in Georgia...I have a more "hopeless" state of mind...but I'm workin' on it....lol.
Maybe it's the Georia that the russians are visiting.
propel (107 posts) Mon Aug-18-08 03:14 AM
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53. Yes
Edited on Mon Aug-18-08 03:15 AM by propel
One way to attack the right is from the angle of the poor.
If Obama doesn't do that and loses this election, I'm gonna be pissed.
Talk about the abuse of the poor in this country from a biblical perspective.
But can I be frank for a second ??????????????????????????????????
Lie if you have to......Let's be real here folks, the last Democrat to win the White House
...or the last two for that matter were southerners.
Bill Clinton told a lie or two......BUT HE WON. ....hear that Democrat Party ?????????? HE WON.....that's what I'm concerned with.
WINNING IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT......JUST WIN BABY AS AL DAVIS WOULD SAY
I dont' want to sit high on my idealistic horse after losing.
Let the Repukes call us liars after we've won......wouldn't that be fun ?????
Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-08 08:07 AM
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55. **** the fundies.
tell us how you really feel...
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-08 08:07 AM
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55. **** the fundies.
See.
Sand.
In his vagina.
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propel (107 posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:32 PM
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WE HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE...WE HAVE NO CHOICE
OK with me. Which people were you going to fight? Oh, and bring your lunch, they'll probably be hungry when they finish beating your ass down, and it might placate them into sparing your life to offer the food...unless it's vegan, that would be a bad idea.
:tongue:
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propel (107 posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:32 PM
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WE HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE...WE HAVE NO CHOICE
*nyaaaah!!* :catfight: :catfight:
:rofl:
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-08 08:07 AM
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55. **** the fundies.
See.
Sand.
In his vagina.
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/dirt.jpg)
Watchoo talkin' bout, Willis?
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A DUmmie wanting to fight,LOL. Isn't that just so cute of them.
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propel (107 posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:32 PM
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WE HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE...WE HAVE NO CHOICE
I think there's a comma missing.
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I always thought liberals single greatest complaint about religion was how iot has been perverted by insincere hucksters for the purpose of gaining temporal, worldly power.
And yet we have Hillary's "I consider myself to be an evangelical Christian", Barry's 20 membership with some racist, half-crazed asshole and DU'ers pandering/longing for the Chrisitan vote.
buncha twits
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propel (107 posts) Sun Aug-17-08 11:32 PM
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WE HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE...WE HAVE NO CHOICE
I think there's a comma missing.
Yes, I was just mocking their shitty grammar.
:cheersmate: