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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on November 26, 2017, 08:01:28 PM
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blm (98,415 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029889044
Old DU may recall I was part of an SNL circle & I'm about to say something (socially impolite
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to those who choose to be offended) in regard to issues of height.
Whenever I had encounters with Al Franken he was always a gentleman - always.
I am 5'4". Well, I was at the time, now I'm 5'3" after various surgeries.
Al was not much taller. In fact, when I was wearing heels I was taller than him. Same with Paul Simon. Short men can have awkward hugs with women just as often as tall men do.
Franken, accommodating his fans, would always close in for their much wanted photo - whether the fan was female or male. He was never an arm's length guy when it came to his fans. I applaud his openness to them. Bill Murray is much the same way.
I am certain, just as certain as all of his longtime female co-workers, that Al Franken never intentionally groped a woman. Accidentally, perhaps his hand brushed low which wouldn't surprise me given his height, but, intentionally.....no.
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blm (98,415 posts)
1. BTW - One of my first jobs was working for Adidas - want to know how many pro basketball players
and their private areas were accidentally grazed by this short woman?
ew...
Gothmog (45,665 posts)
5. Thank you for sharing these facts
I am jealous that you know Senator Franken and I am glad that you have shared your story
Oh, please. This short fat dumpy woman was a gopher on the staff... she didn't hob-nob with the writers or actors...
Star Member lostnfound (11,413 posts)
23. I don't think you should "believe it"... he doesn't remember the photo
He is being very cautious not to discount the women, I suspect in part because he is holding in his great mind the harm that has been down by society that doesn't listen to true victims.
Until he has proof that clears his name completely -- I'm holding out hope that the photo was photoshopped, for example -- he is NOT going to dare to come out defending himself at the expense of 1) making himself the giant target of the right wing hate machine and 2) progress made by the #metoo moment.
I think he is acting honorably under extreme duress.
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blm (98,415 posts)
19. Well, that 'photographic evidence' doesn't show him 'grabbing ass' and DOES show wide smiles
on the faces of the women claiming harm much later. If I was taking a photo and suddenly grabbed on the ass, I am certain my surprise and discomfort would show on my face.
My experience with Franken was NOT based in professional surroundings. It was in a circle of friends. I had a lengthy relationship with one of his co-workers. He was a gentleman at all times.
You seem to have missed my point about height issues, and I am inclined to believe you intended to miss the point in order to further smear someone you want smeared.
PS: EVERYONE knows the Huffington bit was scripted from Politically Incorrect's Strange Bedfellows. Unless you are one of those who gets their talking points from Kremlin or RW propaganda sites.
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blm (98,415 posts)
44. Im tired of RW lies. Plus, you claimed there was photographic evidence of 'ass grabbing' yet there was NOT.
And it is a certainty that the ONLY people pushing the talking point that Franken groped Huffington are RW propagandists and Kremlin internet operatives.
Everyone else knows that skit and the segment was part of Politically Incorrect's "Strange Bedfellows'.
I am tired of propagandists pretending the skit was real life. I'm tired of propagandists pretending the Tweeden skit was real life. A skit written in 2003 that was no different replayed in 2006 when Tweeden accepted the part.
'We Democrats' know discernment - propagandists do not.
I am short - I know plenty about awkward hugs. I tire of people pretending my reality is a form of apologia.
I tire of bullshit artists.
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groundloop (5,954 posts)
32. Did you ever actually look at the photo with Ms. Tweeden???
She's wearing a flak jacket, which in and of itself makes 'groping' pretty damned impossible. If you look closely he's not touching anything, merely pretending to grope her flak jacket. Furthermore, the date she claimed the photo was taken doesn't match the data embedded in the photo, which in this case is a big deal because that means the photo wasn't taken where she said it was. Someone who was there has even come forward and said that she was in on the gag.
Now granted, depending on your point of view the photo could be considered to be in very bad taste, but that's to be expected from anyone whose life's work at that point was comedy. But it does not show Al groping her.
Hell, I suppose if I were running for public office right now I'd have to be afraid of being outed for touching a co-worker's breast once (but it was a total freakish accident and I was embarrassed as hell and apologized profusely).
What's maddening is that the right is trying to put Al Franken in the same league with someone who chased teenage girls when he was in his 30s - and some of us are buying into it. Until I see concrete proof of any wrong I'm remaining firmly behind Senator Franken.
blm (98,415 posts)
24. I have reason to believe Franken when he said he doesn't remember the incidents the same way.
And I have reason to not believe these women were intentionally groped.
snort (1,293 posts)
42. That is what makes this a clear cut case of rat****ing.
He has worked with a lot of people for a long time so where is the rep????
remember how strongly they supported Bill Clinton?
til he was no longer useful?
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Didn't Franken(stein) admit to at least one groping incident? That would prevent any "clearing of his name," DUmmies.
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blm stand for 'butt licking moron' and has in my book for years.
Harvey Weinstein has to be wondering where he went wrong. The formula said if you support the Dem party then you can do whatever you want and expect zero consequences because the blm's of the world would cover for you just as she's now doing for Franken, regardless of the odds against you. Harvey has to be wondering why Al and not him, and it's a legit question for him and everyone to ask.
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blm (98,415 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029889044
Old DU may recall I was part of an SNL circle
so you were pivot man in a circle jerk? Listening to frankelstein's excuses makes me sick, it is easy to be humble when trying to save your ass. :bird:
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blm (98,415 posts)
1. BTW - One of my first jobs was working for Adidas - want to know how many pro basketball players
and their private areas were accidentally grazed by this short woman?
Pro ball player, worth millions and your ugly ass accidentally grazed his slong? Riiiiiight! You could only dream of nabbing a pro ball player. Pro ball player should sue your ass for harassment if it happened. Which I seriously doubt. From what I have read for a pair of their shoes they could have just about any non self respecting woman they wanted for the nite. Sure as hell ain't gonna even look at your fugly hind end.
I call BS.