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Title: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: AzJames73 on October 08, 2017, 08:57:32 AM
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hamsterjill (9,494 posts)       https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029684490
My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
I have previously posted about my older sister's battle with colon cancer, and the fact that she couldn't get the real treatment she needed because of money.

She was 72 and had Medicare coverage, but for whatever reason (financial, most likely), she did not have a supplemental policy for her 20% copay. The 20% of the prescribed chemo treatment was going to run over $25,000 per month and my family could not afford that. I don't think there are many families who could. She had income just over (seriously like less than $100) that disqualified her for Medicaid.

She lived in a rural area in South Texas with limited medical care availability. Very Trump supportive area. There were issues related to her residency because that limited her access to teaching hospitals in other counties, etc. She was just a statistic to all of the bureaucrats that we spoke with. Just another faceless, dying American.

We were able to scrape together the funds necessary to get her on a less-than desirable, but at least something, oral chemo regiment. That gave her about five months.

She died in the richest country in the world because she couldn't get the right medical care. That makes me furious, and it makes me want to puke my guts out. How can anyone say they are prolife and see something like this happening without compassion and desire for change? Republicans are unfeeling.

We need universal healthcare. No one else should have to die because they are poor and/or limited by county residency. We are the UNITED States of America and we need healthcare available for all regardless of where they live.

As for me, I'll thank you in advance for just allowing me the opportunity to seethe about this publicly. I loved my sister very much and I'll miss her. But I would be lying if I said I wasn't relieved that her suffering is over. I'll be okay after some time has passed.

Please fight for healthcare for all so that no other family has to go through this. Please never give up. It's the right thing to do. I'll be there with you. And please keep recruiting Democratic voters because the world lost a good Democrat yesterday.

Peace.

You already have it. ACA....aka....OBAMACARE !
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: Delmar on October 08, 2017, 09:15:35 AM
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Response to hamsterjill (Original post)Sat Oct 7, 2017, 02:41 PM
Star Member sharedvalues (2,633 posts)
15. So sorry for your loss

And the heartless, evil moneygrubbers that run the GOP want people like your sister to die, so that GOP donors like the Koches can increase their wealth by 10%.

If you want, I can post a picture of the Koches or their political director so people can see who to blame for shitty healthcare in America.
But you probably just want to mourn right now.

(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/GsuQAQE_zpsucg2qzvk.jpg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/GsuQAQE_zpsucg2qzvk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: sneakypete on October 08, 2017, 09:22:39 AM
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She died in the richest country in the world because she couldn't get the right medical care.

No,she died because she was 72 years old and had an incurable fatal disease.

Guess what,bubba? EVERYBODY dies. Even your useless scum-sucking Dim sister,who is now TRULY a "good Dim". Providing of course her name is taken off the voting register so she doesn't continue to vote a straight Dim ticket for the next 200 years.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on October 08, 2017, 09:52:06 AM
That Trump...we'd all be immortal if it wasn't for him grumble grumble.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: SVPete on October 08, 2017, 10:46:34 AM
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... She was 72 and had Medicare coverage, but for whatever reason (financial, most likely), she did not have a supplemental policy for her 20% copay.  ...

She gambled for 7 years and lost. She chose not to get the insurance.

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... The 20% of the prescribed chemo treatment was going to run over $25,000 per month ...

I think this is false. It looks like the full cost of some high cost chemo regimens is in the $30K per month range. 20% of that, $6,000 per month, is not peanuts, but very far from $25K per month. Whether DU-member hamsterjill misunderstood or lied, I won't guess.

The bottom line is that I am responsible for my healthcare, not the Federal government. And since DU-folk don't understand - and hate - that R-word, they should ask themselves how much the idea of ceding their healthcare decisions and treatments to a US government led by Trump appeals to them.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: BattleHymn on October 08, 2017, 12:19:53 PM
72 years old?

Cancer?

That's a death panel contestant right there. 

Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: Undies on October 08, 2017, 01:05:46 PM
72 years old?

Cancer?

That's a death panel contestant right there.

They have no idea about what they wish for healthcare.  Remember back during those horrid Obama years when he was having a conversation with some group somewhere?  That Obama character had a lucid moment of truth and told some woman her elderly mother wouldn't be getting a pacemaker because Mom is too old. 

At 72, colon cancer sister would be given a pill by a government clinic doctor and sent home to die.  That is UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for all! 
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: SVPete on October 08, 2017, 01:24:58 PM
They have no idea about what they wish for healthcare.  ...

Just about every government program Libs & Progs support is about how they intend the program to work, not how it actually does work out. They'll learn Sarah Palin was right about the "death panels" when one decides they or a loved one will die rather than be treated.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 08, 2017, 01:30:06 PM
You already have it. ACA....aka....OBAMACARE !

Yep, still the law of the land.  No way to blame Trump or Republicans.  Legitimately.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 08, 2017, 02:51:05 PM
Yep, still the law of the land.  No way to blame Trump or Republicans.  Legitimately.

Not quite true . . .

John McCain calls himself a Republican . . .
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on October 08, 2017, 03:23:21 PM
What you want is FREE shit, there is no such thing as free shit. Us responsible working people have to pay for it for you.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 08, 2017, 03:49:18 PM
Not quite true . . .

John McCain calls himself a Republican . . .

True.  Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski.  Heck, you can actually blame Cankles for cheating to beat Crazy Uncle Bernie.  Since he was the champion of free healthcare for all.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: I_B_Perky on October 08, 2017, 06:20:59 PM
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hamsterjill (9,494 posts)       https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029684490
My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
I have previously posted about my older sister's battle with colon cancer, and the fact that she couldn't get the real treatment she needed because of money.

She was 72 and had Medicare coverage, but for whatever reason (financial, most likely), she did not have a supplemental policy for her 20% copay. The 20% of the prescribed chemo treatment was going to run over $25,000 per month and my family could not afford that. I don't think there are many families who could. She had income just over (seriously like less than $100) that disqualified her for Medicaid.

I thought you pukes wanted medicare for all?  I have told you and told you idiots that medicare basically sucks. Now you understand where I was coming from.

Personally I am fine with medicare for all.... all dummies. Wait until you idiots realize it ain't the wunnerful freebie that you think it is.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: USA4ME on October 08, 2017, 06:42:43 PM
I think this is false. It looks like the full cost of some high cost chemo regimens is in the $30K per month range. 20% of that, $6,000 per month, is not peanuts, but very far from $25K per month. Whether DU-member hamsterjill misunderstood or lied, I won't guess.

I agree. This idiot is saying 20% of the full cost was $25K a month, meaning the full cost would be $125K a month. No way.

Primitives lie. All the time. They lie.

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Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: YupItsMe on October 08, 2017, 08:06:36 PM
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/GsuQAQE_zpsucg2qzvk.jpg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/GsuQAQE_zpsucg2qzvk.jpg.html)

 Obama does that like a pro.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: diesel driver on October 09, 2017, 07:23:33 AM
Last time I looked, I found out life has a 100 percent mortality rate...
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on October 09, 2017, 07:50:03 AM
Last time I looked, I found out life has a 100 percent mortality rate...
Unless you are OS.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: BattleHymn on October 09, 2017, 09:05:27 AM
Unless you are OS.

Over the last couple of years, I've offered up numerous reasons why Steve hasn't died yet, ranging from being too fat to fit through St Peter's gate, to getting stuck in the tunnel of white light.

I've managed to overlook one dead simple explanation thus far that is plain as day when you think about the logistical side of Steve:

(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/fuller/files/2015/03/im-not-dead-yet.jpeg)

Ok, which one of you guys wants to find a cart big enough to roll Steve out to the mortuary?
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: 67 Rover on October 09, 2017, 09:39:36 AM
Over the last couple of years, I've offered up numerous reasons why Steve hasn't died yet, ranging from being too fat to fit through St Peter's gate, to getting stuck in the tunnel of white light.

I've managed to overlook one dead simple explanation thus far that is plain as day when you think about the logistical side of Steve:

(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/fuller/files/2015/03/im-not-dead-yet.jpeg)

Ok, which one of you guys wants to find a cart big enough to roll Steve out to the mortuary?


Maybe OS is guarding the Holy Grail?
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: sneakypete on October 09, 2017, 10:32:44 AM
Obama does that like a pro.

@YupItsMe

His nickname is "Bathhouse Barry" for a reason.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: diesel driver on October 09, 2017, 02:52:25 PM
Unless you are OS.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Or Keith Richards...   :rotf:
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: I_B_Perky on October 09, 2017, 04:54:04 PM
Unless you are OS.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

OK that there was damned funny... don't care who ya are!!!

H5 x 2 for making me LOL!!!!
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: thundley4 on October 09, 2017, 06:02:57 PM
Obama does that like a pro.

Notice how excited his husband Michael looks.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: BadCat on October 10, 2017, 07:26:58 AM
WAIT!

Is not the "new" Dimocrat health plan termed "Medicare for All"?
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: Adam Wood on October 30, 2017, 05:23:10 PM
Over the last couple of years, I've offered up numerous reasons why Steve hasn't died yet, ranging from being too fat to fit through St Peter's gate, to getting stuck in the tunnel of white light.

I've managed to overlook one dead simple explanation thus far that is plain as day when you think about the logistical side of Steve:

(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/fuller/files/2015/03/im-not-dead-yet.jpeg)

Ok, which one of you guys wants to find a cart big enough to roll Steve out to the mortuary?

They tried one of these:

(http://i68.tinypic.com/5vad50.jpg)

but this happened:

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2u8xxrl.jpg)


Gonna need something bigger, apparently.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: RobJohnson on October 31, 2017, 05:45:52 AM
You already have it. ACA....aka....OBAMACARE !

Exactly! The DUmmies in the past claimed Obamacare was the best in the west!

I don't buy the story either. In Nevada you can get a Medicare advantage plan for the simple cost of what you already pay for part B coverage. If the story is true, about the medical costs-not her death (which is sad), it sounds like poor planning.
Title: Re: My sister died yesterday. We need healthcare for all.
Post by: docstew on October 31, 2017, 01:10:47 PM
I agree. This idiot is saying 20% of the full cost was $25K a month, meaning the full cost would be $125K a month. No way.

Primitives lie. All the time. They lie.

.

$125K/month is $1.5M/year. I don't care who you are, spending that kind of scratch for someone who is 72 is fiscally irresponsible. I'd elect for the pill rather than bankrupting my family for 20% of that. And I'd be happy with that choice, because it's MINE.