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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on October 02, 2017, 09:04:13 AM
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DemocratSinceBirth (83,391 posts)
Disappointed the shooter was white, right wing sites are saying Paddock was a recent Muslim convert.
These people really need to check themselves.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029660400
Check your mouth Dummie.
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I need to remember this thread when we learn more about the guy. I have a feeling it's going to bite the DUmmy in the ass.
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I've seen a fair amount of speculation, but probably not much more than there was on DU. Speculation flourishes when facts are scarce. I think conservatives are a little less inclined to conclusion-jumping, and much more willing to adjust their ideas to conform to facts.
I have seen zero expressions of disappointment, consternation, etc. at the color of the shooter's skin. ZEEEE-RO.
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I've seen a fair amount of speculation, but probably not much more than there was on DU. Speculation flourishes when facts are scarce. I think conservatives are a little less inclined to conclusion-jumping, and much more willing to adjust their ideas to conform to facts.
I have seen zero expressions of disappointment, consternation, etc. at the color of the shooter's skin. ZEEEE-RO.
I'm waiting for a few of questions to be answered.
1. Who was the guy aside from his name?
2. Did he post anything anywhere concerning his reasons?
3. Why did he choose that particular event?
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The Daily Mail had reported they talked to his brother, he claims he just snapped. Which I think is BS. This had to be planned in advance, the motel room, the firearms and the rest.
The police will find either a suicide note or a manifesto soon to confirm this was planned and not spur of the moment.
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'Right-wing sites', plural... from a leftwinger, this soon after the event? Bull...
What leftwinger decides; I'm immediately going to rightwing-sites instead of leftwing ones at the moment, so I can see what the other side is thinking rather than my own??
It's a petty grandstand-play, so other DU's will be impressed with how on-top-of-things he/she is.
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Unlike the DUmmies (and probably even a scattered few RW types), I never assign politics to such a sad event. Once the facts emerge, then you can.
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The Daily Mail had reported they talked to his brother, he claims he just snapped. Which I think is BS. This had to be planned in advance, he motel room, the firearms and the rest.
The police will find either a suicide note or a manifesto soon to confirm this was planned and not spur of the moment.
100% agree.
Why not pull this stunt during the iHeartRadio Music Festival with a higher attendance and in the exact same venue last weekend?? I'm m pretty sure I know why...
<<< was in Vegas last weekend, but not for that ^^^. I could see and hear the stage from my room
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DemocratSinceBirth (83,391 posts)
Disappointed the shooter was white, right wing sites are saying Paddock was a recent Muslim convert.
These people really need to check themselves.
Umm... (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/isis-claims-responsibility-las-vegas-attack-says-suspect-converted-islam-months-ago)
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Umm... (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/isis-claims-responsibility-las-vegas-attack-says-suspect-converted-islam-months-ago)
It's from Gateway Pundit, which DU-folk would reflexively dismiss, but the article links to at least one more conventional news site. What is telling to me is the summary sub-head for the Gateway blogpost:
In a bizarre turn of events, the Islamic State is claiming Las Vegas suspect Stephen Paddock carried out the attack on behalf of the terror group. The shooting suspect allegedly ‘converted to Islam months ago.’
That first phrase means that the Gateway writer himself did not immediately and reflexively assume the shooting was Islamic terrorism. Note also the cautious choice of words, claiming and allegedly. It's a degree of caution DU-folk would do well to emulate, but would be much more likely to dismiss and denigrate.
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I thought I saw he was anti Trump and a lefty.
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Not outside the realm of probability-- in deed well within-- for an anti-Trump lefty to be a recent mahometan convert.
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The only reason I would hope he was a Muslim, is that I would like to have only one enemy to worry about at a time. I don't think it's going to be true.
However, I'll bet $100.00 he didn't vote for Trump last November.
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Given the recent track record of mass shooters being left leaning haters I would guess that the mold hasn't quite been broken yet. Until we find out if he just went nuts or history repeated itself I am only guess as much as the DUmpmonkies. They have been so wrong on previous mass shootings that I would be shocked to see if they ever come out an say
they are the cause of this.
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My money is on the shooter being a lefty angry at anyone who "might" have voted for Trump........such as Country Music fans.
All the democrat hate towards Trump led to Steve Scalise being gunned down. (IMO)
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I need to remember this thread when we learn more about the guy. I have a feeling it's going to bite the DUmmy in the ass.
I am betting 6 to 4 he was a liberal dem.
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I understand he scrubbed all his hardware before embarking on this thing, which means it may be forensically recoverable, but you can pretty well count on the FBI keeping whatever they dig out of it close to their chests for possibly years...especially if he is connected to Democrat anti-Trumpers in some way. In that case I would expect the FIBbers to sit on it for as long as possible in order not to stir shit up.
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I understand he scrubbed all his hardware before embarking on this thing, which means it may be forensically recoverable, but you can pretty well count on the FBI keeping whatever they dig out of it close to their chests for possibly years...especially if he is connected to Democrat anti-Trumpers in some way. In that case I would expect the FIBbers to sit on it for as long as possible in order not to stir shit up.
This guy was freaking diabolical in the literal sense of the word. This was well-planned, well-executed and he seemed to cover every base no matter how small.
Rich, enjoying the accouterments of a High Roller in an upscale casino, successful by almost any measure, apparently brilliant, he planned this out step by step, bit by bit, like a developer writing a program he desk checked for all bugs.
I join America and the world in asking W T F????? In the most serious way possible.
The next weeks will be eye-opening.
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I understand he scrubbed all his hardware before embarking on this thing, which means it may be forensically recoverable, but you can pretty well count on the FBI keeping whatever they dig out of it close to their chests for possibly years...especially if he is connected to Democrat anti-Trumpers in some way. In that case I would expect the FIBbers to sit on it for as long as possible in order not to stir shit up.
Just imagine if some of his weapons were tied to Obama/Holder and Fast and Furious.
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Just imagine if some of his weapons were tied to Obama/Holder and Fast and Furious.
If just one of the serial numbers was associated with F&F, we'll never know. Americans would rightly be calling for blood.