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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: ChuckJ on September 07, 2017, 04:18:33 PM
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Need as many prayers as you guys can give out. If you don't believe in prayers do what ever you do. Based on the latest track for Hurricane Irma it'll be dancing through my front yard sometime on Monday. I'm not concerned about the flooding like Houston has suffered (my prayers go out to them), but I am very much worried about the wind and falling trees. Hurricane Matthew did a number on us last year, but we came out much better than we could have. Thank the Lord.
The circumstances this go around look worse. Both the hurricane path AND other situations. My dad had to have a blood transfusion yesterday (two units or 1000 ml) and was supposed to do chemo next week (all due to his MDS). The chemo has been canceled because the hospital is closing. Then today my mom (who has been sick since Saturday) got diagnosed with pneumonia.
Keep praying for the hurricane victims everywhere, but please drop a special "Chuck" prayer in there somewhere too.
Thanks.
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You got it, my friend. Prayers will be said.
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Prayers up from the soggy end of Texas.
KC
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Another prayer from TX. Lash yourself to the mast.
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<<<always has a special prayer for ChuckJ, one of the finest gentlemen and truest Christians one can ever hope to meet.
And of course his family too.
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ChuckJ - praying that Irma will be just another fly-by-night bitch that takes a dump on your lawn, but doesn't leave you without a lawn. Or a house.
Praying also for your family.
Buckle up!
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The circumstances this go around look worse. Both the hurricane path AND other situations. My dad had to have a blood transfusion yesterday (two units or 1000 ml) and was supposed to do chemo next week (all due to his MDS). The chemo has been canceled because the hospital is closing. Then today my mom (who has been sick since Saturday) got diagnosed with pneumonia.
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This lady’s father is on oxygen. She broke down when she realized the last generator was taken. This man insisted she take his.
This lady's father is on oxygen. She broke down when realizing the last generator was taken. This man insisted she take his. God bless them! pic.twitter.com/nCRJXTXEmm
— Ryan Fournier (@RyanAFournier) September 8, 2017
https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/905959831957372928/video/1
God bless them!
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There are very good reasons why anxiety violence in South Florida is not being discussed right now, there are also some PC reasons I’m sure. Regardless, perhaps this short reminder is worthwhile for a few people who may need to prepare themselves for what can happen.
Evacuation will not be possible for many people; partly because there’s a fuel shortage and not enough gas for South Florida people to actually get on the road and head North. Ten to sixteen million people headed North on basically three main arteries is virtually impossible to pull off under the best of circumstances, so many will have to hunker down.
Keep a level head about yourself. Avoid crowds. If you have prepared yourself appropriately you should have enough supplies to last at least 3 days before needing to leave home. If you can, stay inside; if you can’t, don’t travel alone. Always have someone with you and look out for your neighbors.
Don’t tell anyone what supplies you may or may not have. If anyone asks, even friends, instead ask them: what do they need? If you can help, great, do it; but don’t discuss what your supplies are. Also, remember, absent of electrical power, predators know everyone shopping is carrying cash.
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There are very good reasons why anxiety violence in South Florida is not being discussed right now, there are also some PC reasons I’m sure. Regardless, perhaps this short reminder is worthwhile for a few people who may need to prepare themselves for what can happen.
There may be some anxiety violence in dade and broward in the hoods, but here in palm beach the grocery stores shelves are full and the gas stations have gas and there are no lines at either of them.
A lot of people hit the road unprepared and are now stuck and clogging the roads for others. the hard truth living here is getting out is a bitch. if you don't live in a flood zone you are better off staying put. The best investment you can make is hurricane shutters or impact windows.
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Now they are saying that the eye will be west of us which might be worse since they claim the east side spins off the most tornados. What gets me about this storm, even more so than the speed, is the size of it. It's huge.
After my initial post I got to thinking how these things create a sort of conundrum of conscience. Maybe 'conundrum' isn't the best word. I don't know as I'm not an English major. Nor am I a fictional spirit-guide who has insight into these type of things. Regardless, what I mean is that during these things we say things like "please don't let it hit me" which, by default, pretty much means "please let it hit someone else." Maybe we'd be better served to say "Your will be done. Just grant me the strength and courage to handle it."
Thanks for the thoughts and prayers. Right now my plan is to do the same as last time. I'm going to 'shelter in place' until the going gets too tough or the good Lord points me in another direction.
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Now they are saying that the eye will be west of us which might be worse since they claim the east side spins off the most tornados. What gets me about this storm, even more so than the speed, is the size of it. It's huge.
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Easy for me to say, since I'm not in your shoes right now.
But, stay safe, use your head, and God IS able.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ1GQFtHGxU[/youtube]
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I've done all I can to prep. No storm surge as I live 30 miles inland, but expecting winds up to 100 mph and strong wind for at least 24-36 hours in Tampa. Not looking forward to it, that's for sure.
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Strengthened Cat 5 Irma drives 5.6M to evacuate Florida coast
MIAMI (Septemer 8, 2017) — Hurricane Irma’s relentless advance on Florida narrowed the window for residents to get to safely, with the latest forecasts shifting landfall southwest of the heavily populated Miami metro area.
In one of the country’s largest evacuations, about 5.6 million people in Florida — more than one-quarter of the state’s population — were ordered to leave, and another 540,000 were ordered out on the Georgia coast. Authorities opened hundreds of shelters for people who did not leave. Hotels as far away as Atlanta filled up with evacuees.
“If you are planning to leave and do not leave tonight, you will have to ride out this extremely dangerous storm at your own risk,” Florida Gov. Rick Scott said.
https://www.onenewsnow.com/ap/united-states/strengthened-cat-5-irma-drives-56m-to-evacuate-florida-coast
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5:00am Hurricane Irma – Alert For West Coast Tidal Storm Surge
Unfortunately the latest update from the National Hurricane Center shows another slight shift westward putting the South and Central West Coast of Florida in the path of immediate concern. –ADVISORY UPDATE HERE–
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT1+shtml/090900.shtml
If you’ve followed along you might have noticed the ‘worst case scenario’ for the West coast of Florida. –Outlined Here–
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/08/understanding-the-unique-challenge-to-south-florida-during-irma/
However, I want to draw your attention to the forecast timing; because there’s a remarkable synergy lining up with Hurricane Donna from 1960. First here’s the latest NHC forecast map and times:
(https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/hurricane-irma-30.jpg)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/09/500am-hurricane-irma-alert-for-west-coast-tidal-storm-surge/
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I've done all I can to prep. No storm surge as I live 30 miles inland, but expecting winds up to 100 mph and strong wind for at least 24-36 hours in Tampa. Not looking forward to it, that's for sure.
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It looks like the latest prediction has it going up the west coast, we may be spared the worst in palm beach county. In spite of all the predictions from the talking heads we really won't know till it gets here.
The waiting is the hardest part, I hope it comes through in daylight hours.
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Mass Florida evacuation underway as Irma magnitude expands
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MIAMI (September 9, 2017) — The window for Florida residents to safely evacuate narrowed Saturday as Hurricane Irma’s outer bands blew into the southern part of the state on a predicted path for landfall southwest of the heavily populated Miami metro area.
The enormous storm weakened slightly to Category 4 with maximum sustained winds of 130 mph (215 kph), but it was expected to pick up strength again as it takes aim at Florida. The storm was forecast to reach the Florida Keys on Sunday morning before moving up the state’s Gulf Coast.
The National Weather Service said damaging winds were moving into areas including Key Biscayne and Coral Gables on Saturday morning, while gusts of up to 56 mph (90 kph) were reported on Virginia Key off Miami.
The governor urged everybody in the Keys, where forecasters expect the storm to hit first, to get out.
Ray Scarborough and girlfriend Leah Etmanczyk left their home in Big Pine Key and fled north with her parents and three big dogs to stay with relatives in Orlando. Scarborough was 12 when Hurricane Andrew hit in 1992 and remembers lying on the floor in a hallway as the storm nearly ripped the roof off his house.
“They said this one is going to be bigger than Andrew. When they told me that, that’s all I needed to hear,” said Scarborough, now a 37-year-old boat captain. “That one tore everything apart.”
Their house in the Keys, up on 6-foot (1.8-meter) stilts, has flooded before.
Nevertheless, forecasters warned that its hurricane-force winds were so wide they could reach from coast to coast, testing the nation’s third-largest state, which has undergone rapid development and more stringent hurricane-proof building codes in the last decade or so.
“This is a storm that will kill you if you don’t get out of the way,” National Hurricane Center meteorologist Dennis Feltgen said. “Everybody’s going to feel this one.”
https://www.onenewsnow.com/ap/united-states/mass-florida-evacuation-underway-as-irma-magnitude-expands
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Trump prays with his Cabinet at Camp David, talks Irma: 'We've never seen anything like this'
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President Trump and members of his Cabinet bowed their heads in prayer as they met at Camp David in Maryland before the president offered words of support for those impacted and still threatened by Hurricanes Harvey and Irma.
"All of American continues ... to pray for the families affected by Hurricane Harvey, Hurricane Irma which looks like it's really going to be a bad one. But we're prepared. We're as prepared as you can be for such an event," Trump said in a video posted on his @realDonaldTrump Twitter account. "All of America grieves for those who have already lost their lives."
Trump also said of Irma, which is heading to Florida as a "major" hurricane, that "we've never seen anything like this."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-prays-with-his-cabinet-at-camp-david-talks-irma-weve-never-seen-anything-like-this/article/2633934
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This storm is going to be a doozy. woke up at 5:30 am, the storm is just south of key west, about 250 miles south of here and there is already 40 to 45 mph winds and driving rain.
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This storm is going to be a doozy. woke up at 5:30 am, the storm is just south of key west, about 250 miles south of here and there is already 40 to 45 mph winds and driving rain.
One of the guys in the deer camp I belong to is hunkered and bunkered in Naples. Not a good place to be right about now.
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Dan Scavino Jr.Verified account @Scavino45 9h9 hours ago
Hurricane force winds hit Florida Keys. 390 shelters have been opened in Florida. Shelters near you➡️http://www.floridadisaster.org/index.asp #HurricaneIrma
Florida Emergency Preparedness Update Information
http://www.floridadisaster.org/index.asp
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As I just posted in the Shoutbox, I'll take a nor'easter any day over a hurricane.
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For those outside the SWFL area, NBC-2 is a local network with exceptional coverage of Hurricane Irma for Lee, Collier and Charlotte counties. Also, now that Irma is close to the keys the NBC 250 mile radar sweep allows them to follow Irma via their own radar which is far more precise and up to the hour accurate. NBC-2.Com Website HERE http://www.nbc-2.com/category/300756/nbc2-247-streaming-video
They also have a livestream Youtube channel NBC2 News , and they are broadcasting 24/7 on the storm as she arrives. This information is far more useful than Weather or National Channel’s.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_egSTyWb1gk[/youtube]
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The next 36 hours is it. Chances are I'll be without electricity for a few days, maybe even a week or more. I'll check in when time allows. Pray for all of us.
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The next 36 hours is it. Chances are I'll be without electricity for a few days, maybe even a week or more. I'll check in when time allows. Pray for all of us.
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Thanks for the update. There are over 16,000 extra emergency power techs from all over the country riding out the storm with you.
16,000 Utility Technicians From 30 States and Canada Already Stationed in Florida to Help Bring Power Back After Irma
Hundreds and hundreds of power trucks have come to Daytona Beach from across the nation and Canada.
30 states have sent utility crews to join up with FD&L which services about half the people in the state of Florida.
What a great country!
The utility and landscaping trucks are lined up in the Daytona Beach parking lot ready to head out after Irma hits the Sunshine state.
Rick Leventhal at FOX News reported:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=88sOkVpgbrc
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You just can't fix stupid though.
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ONE LAST BLOWOUTHurricane Irma – Defiant Florida residents stock up on beer and vow to stay and party through deadly megastorm as Miami cops impose curfew to stop looters raiding evacuated homes
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4428085/hurricane-irma-florida-parties-miami-beach/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SprnklrSUNOrganic&UTMX=Editorial:TheSun:TwImageandlink:Statement:News
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I take it that ChuckJ and his family are no longer in the path of the storm, but USA4ME is?
Or did I read the television screen (at the bar in town) wrongly?
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I take it that ChuckJ and his family are no longer in the path of the storm, but USA4ME is?
Or did I read the television screen (at the bar in town) wrongly?
Yeah, it has shifted to the west a good bit, but it's already raining here. They are still forecasting for us to get gusts up to 60 or 70 miles per hour and a lot of rain, but that's better for us than where they had it forecasted a couple of days ago. My concern, and this is not just for me but is for my entire area, is that we've had so much rain since Hurricane Matthew. I'm scared that when the already saturated ground is mixed with much wind that it will result in even more trees down that with Matthew.
The weird thing is that when they were forecasting for it to pass through my front yard I was debating on heading west to Dothan, Alabama. With the track that they are forecasting now it looks like I would have been closer to the path in Dothan than I will be here.
I'm just praying the USA4ME and whoever else in its path stays safe.
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It los like the storm is a little south of Naples, we lost power here around 8:30 am and it just came back on. there is a lot of wind but not a lot of rain. It looks like it will last for most of the day.
There are a lot of talking heads standing out in the rain but not a lot of useful information about the track and speed at the moment.
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It los like the storm is a little south of Naples, we lost power here around 8:30 am and it just came back on. there is a lot of wind but not a lot of rain. It looks like it will last for most of the day.
There are a lot of talking heads standing out in the rain but not a lot of useful information about the track and speed at the moment.
The last I saw it was tracking north at 8 mph. What surprises me is that they are calling for it to still be a category 1 when it is just south of Tallahassee.
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At 12:30 isit is sse of naples moving north at 7mph, that is really slow. They showed some video of downtown Miami and they have some flooding. and a lot of rain. Up here just a little north there is very little rain.
I am waiting for one of the talking heads standing outside to take a hit from a 100mph coconut or to get decapitated by a sheet of aluminum roofing. That will maybe teach them it is not such a good idea to stand out in this. Dummies see it then venture out and get injured
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At 12:30 isit is sse of naples moving north at 7mph, that is really slow. They showed some video of downtown Miami and they have some flooding. and a lot of rain. Up here just a little north there is very little rain.
I am waiting for one of the talking heads standing outside to take a hit from a 100mph coconut or to get decapitated by a sheet of aluminum roofing. That will maybe teach them it is not such a good idea to stand out in this. Dummies see it then venture out and get injured
I agree. The stupidity of some of these "weather people" never cease to amaze me.
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That it landed on Marco Island is a bonus since the storm will start to weaken over land. If it continues N-NW and takes a track to the East of Tampa that will save a lot of lives. Expecting heavier winds beginning here around 7p with strongest winds around 2a or 3a.
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Godspeed my brothers and sisters
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Surprised I still have electricity. Looks like what is left of the eye will pass East of Tampa, maybe between Tampa and Lakeland, which puts where I live on the weaker side of the storm. But these things are unpredictable, so keeping my fingers crossed.
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Looking at some of the models for Hurricane Jose . . . The Ventusky model has it just south of Rhode Island by the middle of next week. :whistling:
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Well now. It appears as if I've screwed the pooch on this one. My plan was to be up at 4:00 am this morning (near my regular wake up time), assess the situation, then (if needed) make my exit to my "safe house". Instead, I overslept which is something that never happens. Now we're already in the edge of the mess and our lights are off. Guess all I can do now is pray, hold on, and say "heehaw! Ride'em cowboy."
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All is well!! What was left of the eye passed about 15 miles East of my house between 1 and 3 this morning. No damage, lots of leaves blown off and a bunch of smaller branches, but that's it. I'll take it!
Looks like Miami got the brunt of the storm, but they had high onshore winds for 4 days, so that's to be expected. If you were to take a compass and draw a 100 mile circle around Miami, that storm's track and its effect would cover almost 270 degrees of the circle. Irma hitting Cuba (or Cuber, as the Kennedy's would say) saved Florida from being any worse. That and the early landfall just below Naples.
Still wish the stupid thing had just drifted out into the open Atlantic.
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Well now. It appears as if I've screwed the pooch on this one. My plan was to be up at 4:00 am this morning (near my regular wake up time), assess the situation, then (if needed) make my exit to my "safe house". Instead, I overslept which is something that never happens. Now we're already in the edge of the mess and our lights are off. Guess all I can do now is pray, hold on, and say "heehaw! Ride'em cowboy."
Hang in there! At least the thing has been over land for 300+ miles so winds will be moderate at worst.
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Nearly half of Florida in the dark, Tampa takes pounding
Irma weakened to a Category 1 storm as the massive hurricane zeroed in on the Tampa Bay region early Monday after hammering much of Florida with roof-ripping winds, gushing floodwaters and widespread power outages.
The hurricane's maximum sustained winds weakened to 85 mph with additional weakening expected. As of 2 a.m. EDT, the storm was centered about 25 miles northeast of Tampa and moving north-northwest near 15 mph.
Forecasters say they expert Irma's center to stay inland over Florida and then move into Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee.
They also expect Irma to weaken further into a tropical storm over far northern Florida or southern Georgia on Monday as it speeds up its forward motion. The hurricane center says the storm is still life-threatening with dangerous storm surge, wind and heavy rains.
More than 3.3 million homes and businesses -- and counting -- have lost power in Florida as Hurricane Irma moves up the peninsula.
The widespread outages stretch from the Florida Keys all the way into central Florida.
Florida Power & Light, the state's largest electric utility, said there were nearly 1 million customers without power in Miami-Dade County alone.
The power outages are expected to increase as the storm edges further north.
There are roughly 7 million residential customers in the state.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/11/hurricane-irma-nearly-half-florida-in-dark-tampa-takes-pounding.html
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Hang in there! At least the thing has been over land for 300+ miles so winds will be moderate at worst.
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Glad to hear you made it through okay. According to the radar I can pull up on this smarter than me phone it looks like passing over so much land has disorganized the storm a whole lot.
By the way, if I happen to post something that looks more like gibberish than normal it is not my inner redneck kicking in. It's me trying to both type on this phone AND fight this idiotic autocorrect that THINKs it knows what I'm trying to type.
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From the Virgin Islands, survivors painted a picture of desolation and violence, but warned that the situation could deteriorate if aid did not arrive fast. “There is nothing left, I don’t think people will believe the severity of what happened. There is no water, no food, no supplies, no transport. You can’t get from one part to another unless you walk,” said Giles Cadman, who lives on the islands part-time and has been part of a remote relief network that sprang up in the wake of the disaster.
Dr Annalise Wilkins left her home on Tortola to go to a wedding, and now fears she will never see it again. The island does still have a hospital but, as one of few largely intact buildings, it has been partly commandeered by the government, she said. And it was still badly hit by flooding and wind damage, with windows blown in and the dialysis unit flooded. For now, Wilkins is trying to coordinate relief efforts from a distance, and prepare helicopter transport of urgent medical supplies that are already running low.
Longer term, she is worried about disease and water supplies, with most of the island’s cisterns and all but one of the desalination plants taken out. “Even basic infrastructure is going to take months.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/09/irma-survivors-beg-aid-lhurrican-jose
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Over Half Of Florida Without Power As State Braces For "Lengthiest Restoration In US History"
Update (8:00am ET): As it travels over the Florida Panhandle, Irma has been downgraded to a tropical storm. Yet it continues to produce some wind gusts that are near hurricane force.
After hammering the Florida Keys, Miami, Naples and a large swath of the southernmost part of the state – leaving some 5 million Florida homes and businesses without electricity – the still-formidable Hurricane Irma weakened to a category one storm as it traveled over the Tampa Bay area.
According to NBC, no deaths were confirmed Sunday after the storm twice made landfall in Florida, first in Cudjoe Key, then again on Marco Island just southwest of the city of Naples. Florida's largest utility – Florida Power & Light Co. - reported that the storm had knocked out power to nearly three-quarters of its customers. All told, FP&L estimates that some 10 million Floridians will be effected by the power outages – a full 50% of the state’s population.
In fact, officials from the utility say the damage in the southwestern part of the state is so extensive, it could take weeks to fully repair, after Irma shredded powerlines, flooded streets and destroyed homes, according to ABC. One officials said it could be the costliest and most extensive infrastructure-rebuilding effort in US history.
"What we think we'll see on the west coast is a wholesale rebuild of our electric grid," Robert Gould, Florida Power & Light's vice president and chief communications officer, told ABC News. "That will take weeks."
"This thing is a monster," he added.
FPL had requisitioned 17,000 restoration workers from about 30 states in preparation for the storm. But even with an army of workers, the recovery effort will be time-consuming and incredibly costly.
“Gould estimated that FPL positioned "17,000 restoration workers from about 30 states" in anticipation of repair efforts before the storm arrived, but said that flooding from storm surges and traffic congestion as residents return home this week would delay the project.
"This is going to be a very, very lengthy restoration, arguably the most lengthy restoration and most complex in U.S. history," he said, asking that customers be patient.
On the east coast of the state, which avoided a direct hit from the eye of the storm, Gould expects repairs to last "probably a week or more."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-11/half-floridians-without-power-state-braces-lengthiest-restoration-us-history
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It's getting bad in spurts here now. The eye is still over 150 miles away.
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It's getting bad in spurts here now. The eye is still over 150 miles away.
I thought you were in Jax'ville. Are you in Charleston SC?
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I thought you were in Jax'ville. Are you in Charleston SC?
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I'm in southeast Ga. North & west (a little) from Jax. I can drive to Jacksonville in less than hour.
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I'm in southeast Ga. North & west (a little) from Jax. I can drive to Jacksonville in less than hour.
Ok. I got friends in Waycross. They're getting wind and some rain.
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Ok. I got friends in Waycross. They're getting wind and some rain.
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I used to be in Valdosta. Good luck from Eastern NC!
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Ok. I got friends in Waycross. They're getting wind and some rain.
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I know Waycross well. My sis-in-law is a nurse at the hospital there. I have a ton of family in the neighboring county (Pierce) which is where I'm originally from.
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Ok. I got friends in Waycross. They're getting wind and some rain.
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Below are some photos of what happened in Waycross. Don't know who they are from or where in Waycross (except for the one with the bank sign). I found them while looking for something else yesterday.
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Sun shining over there yet?
I swear, our own storms come and go rather quickly, but yours seem to hang around for the longest time. Whether a thunderstorm or a blizzard, ours show up for a few hours, and then are gone.
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Sun shining over there yet?
I swear, our own storms come and go rather quickly, but yours seem to hang around for the longest time. Whether a thunderstorm or a blizzard, ours show up for a few hours, and then are gone.
Yeah, we had some sun today. Our storms often do like to stick around, but this year we seem to have had a lot of those "pop corn" type showers or storms. Those that pop-up out of the blue and then disappear.
I had to go to my parents' house today to take them some gas for the generator. They still don't have power. Our's came back on last night. On the drive to their house I was amazed at things. One spot would look like a disaster area. The next spot would look perfectly fine. All of the creeks and streams are out of their banks and look a bit like white-water rapids.