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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on September 06, 2017, 11:24:46 PM
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Eko (2,314 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029559928
Sanders tanked Clinton.
If you cant see that then you are daft. This is not re-fighting the primaries, this is about the GE. Sanders supporters on here said that she was pro killing little kids, it was insanity. And it spread like wildfire. Sanders has said and continues to say that the Democratic party is wrong, this is insane.
Insane.
Grandma needed no assistance in getting tanked.
Star Member boston bean (30,374 posts)
1. It is strange that stating something like this about a non dem here will cause an uproar.
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Binkie The Clown (3,827 posts)
2. I supported Bernie, but now it's time for him to go away and leave our party alone. nt
Oh, Uncle Bernie isn't going anywhere...
karynnj (55,410 posts)
102. Are you going to appeal to Schumer and have him demand that Bernie leave the leadership role
and even caucusing with the Democrats in the Senate? He is still our Senator, so I assume he is still allowed to speak on single payer, minimum wage, DACA etc. Should he cancel his public fundraising event in Burlington on a boat in Lake Champlain next Sunday?
Bernie is ONE of 48 Senators who caucus with the Democrats. He is also one of the stronger voices on some issues - strengthened by his run where he did better than any primary loser - other than Clinton 2008 - since Gary Hart in 1984! It should also be noted that there is no one leader of the Democratic party now. However, between Obama, Carter, the Clintons, Biden, Kerry, Holder, etc we have elder statesman who command respect among many ... and we have some strong younger leaders, who have been impressive, who I will not name because I would likely miss many who should be named.
Warpy (95,966 posts)
3. Would you prefer party coronations?
Forget it. Our candidates slug it out in the primaries, always have since fat cats in back rooms were deprived of the privilege of picking the most business friendly candidate to run.
Personally, I don't think Sanders damaged her, not after she adopted a lot of his more popular platform positions and he started to campaign for her.
I think a hostile and corrupted corporate press damaged her by muting her speeches while endlessly bleating about fake scandals ginned up by Russian trolls, all the while giving her asshole opponent a free ride. I think Comey hammered one of the final nails into the coffin by his surprise announcement just days before the election, followed by an "oops, nothing there," too little and too late. I think it's highly likely that swing states with those easily hacked DRE machines had their results altered by Russian hackers.
Blaming Sanders is not only in error, it's just too easy a copout and I thought better of her.
I suppose it's easier to focus on a political opponent, even one who came over to your side, than it is to admit how foully tainted the 2016 election was.
It goes on like that, back and forth, for quiet a long time... DUmpmonkiez never learn.
joshcryer (58,634 posts)
139. Actually, 2008 was extremely vicious.
Obama literally brought back the Harry and Louise ad (with none other than the original Harry and Louise) that Gingrich threw at Bill Clinton in the 90s over health care. Clinton tried to tie Obama to Tony Rezko and all the shitty politics in Illinois.
It was bad. Really bad.
But Hillary Clinton endorsed Obama 4 days after losing and went on to campaign fervently for him.
While Sanders waited 8 weeks and 3 days before as much showing a gesture, reluctantly, without any sort of pure endorsement. I feel he was surrounded by his team of people and they made him lose sight of the bigger picture.
Hillary Clinton didn't once bring up any of the plethora of dirt that exists on Sanders in any form whatsoever. While Sanders was saying she was unfit to be the President, she sat back and counted the primary votes she was handily getting in states that are being affected now the hardest by this POS president.
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Eko (2,314 posts)
11. I think its hightime to talk about the
elephant in the room.
arthritisR_US (5,856 posts)
14. I agree but any time I have the post is removed. The battle
ahead won't be won by burying facts or discussion. Sad what things have become.
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Ninsianna (592 posts)
35. All the cheerleaders thanking Bernie for making the sun rise is "bashing"?
Anyone can see that it's absurd to state what you have, if one is aiming for the truth. Bashing HRC, Democratic leaders and Democrats themselves is what certain absurdists engage in, on a Democratic board. It's pointless to pretend otherwise, the evidence and the testimony to the contrary is plain to see, if one opens their eyes.
Kentonio (3,193 posts)
42. No they are not, I had a post removed yesterday that was perceived as anti-Clinton.
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Sorry DUmmies, Bernie and Princess Liawatha are the faces of the new alt-left democrat party. Hillary is nothing more than an incompetent, criminal also-ran.
She is done, toast, old news.
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The 'carpetbag coronation' began in 1999-ish.
Dems got tired of that drumbeat in the rear of their skulls... so by 2015, a lot of them jumped onto the Sanders fad-wagon without thinking twice about it.
Here was Terry McCauliffe's line-of-succession: bill (8 years), gore (4-to-8 years), hillary (4-to-8 years), McCauliffe himself (8 years)... followed by a Kennedy-family member, or chelsea.
He overestimated coronations and their effect upon the American political-process.
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Cliinton nailed her own coffin shut when she made the statement about the "deplorables" she offended a lot more people than she expected.
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Cliinton nailed her own coffin shut when she made the statement about the "deplorables" she offended a lot more people than she expected.
HilLIARy had been building that coffin from the days when she was booted off the Watergate investigation for being unethical and when she got a rapist a lesser charge by threatening the teenage victim with a mental exam. Just listing the worst of the worst of HilLIARy's outrages would require more time that I want to expend right now.
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Warpy (95,966 posts)
3. Would you prefer party coronations?
Forget it. Our candidates slug it out in the primaries, always have since fat cats in back rooms were deprived of the privilege of picking the most business friendly candidate to run.
The dem party pretty much did that in 2016. The fix was in from the start, Hillary was supposed to be the democrat nominee for president. The Wikileaks emails showed that.
Bernie spoiled what was supposed to be a smooth primary season and ended up making her spend money and resources she would not have had to if she was not such a horrible candidate. The party controlled super delegates are what dragged her over the finish line for the party nomination.
(Hillary being dragged over the finish line by some super delegates)
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/10/hillary-clinton-sc-reuters-640x480-640x480.jpg)
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Warpy (95,966 posts)
3. Would you prefer party coronations?
Forget it. Our candidates slug it out in the primaries, always have since fat cats in back rooms were deprived of the privilege of picking the most business friendly candidate to run.
Personally, I don't think Sanders damaged her, not after she adopted a lot of his more popular platform positions and he started to campaign for her.
I think a hostile and corrupted corporate press damaged her by muting her speeches while endlessly bleating about fake scandals ginned up by Russian trolls, all the while giving her asshole opponent a free ride. I think Comey hammered one of the final nails into the coffin by his surprise announcement just days before the election, followed by an "oops, nothing there," too little and too late. I think it's highly likely that swing states with those easily hacked DRE machines had their results altered by Russian hackers.
Blaming Sanders is not only in error, it's just too easy a copout and I thought better of her.
I suppose it's easier to focus on a political opponent, even one who came over to your side, than it is to admit how foully tainted the 2016 election was.
Good God,how can one live in such world of self delusion?
Shillary avoided giving any speeches for several reasons.
She could not get through them without coughing,fainting or spasms.
She really didn`t think she needed to campaign.
She knew that every word she spoke likely would highlight some previous lie she had told.
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Shillary avoided giving any speeches for several reasons.
She could not get through them without coughing,fainting or spasms.
She really didn`t think she needed to campaign.
She knew that every word she spoke likely would highlight some previous lie she had told.
Yeah, that pretty well covers it.
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