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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: FunkyZero on August 30, 2017, 09:34:54 PM
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029533983 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029533983)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:29 PM
Star Member egbertowillies (1,365 posts)
Should we coddle angry white men or tell them the truth?
Much of today's talk is about angry white men who believe that they are getting the short end of the stick. But should we appease them or should we stop lying to them?
It is too easy to coddle newly aggrieved angry white men when the premise of their grievance is false and misleading. Once again a scholar wrote an article that gets much right but fails to provide the only advice that makes sense.
PLEASE READ in the intended context and comment constructively.
https://egbertowillies.com/2017/08/30/coddle-angry-white-men-tell-truth/ (https://egbertowillies.com/2017/08/30/coddle-angry-white-men-tell-truth/)
The meat is in the deranged comments
Response to egbertowillies (Original post)Wed Aug 30, 2017, 02:25 PM
Star Member Hoyt (30,636 posts)
1. I think when they whine about their poor pitiful plight, we tell them to STFU and
that they have it better than any other group in this country. White wingers are a whiny, greedy bunch.
Personally, I'd also take their damn gunz away. But I guess most think that would be kicking them while they are down.
Response to Marengo (Reply #6)Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:58 PM
Star Member Hoyt (30,636 posts)
11. I advocate disarming militias, Klansmen, white wing racists who are majority of gun fanciers in this
country. I know, there are some who supposedly aren't Klansmen but they do need a gun to walk out the door and are fine with mass murders, armed Klansmen, dead babies, intimidation of people with guns, etc., as long as they have access to more guns.
If the tough Australians can bite the bullet, as they did in 1996, surely "the good" gun fanciers that supposedly exist can give up their bad habit for the good of society. At least that is what I keep telling myself.
Response to egbertowillies (Original post)Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:01 PM
Blue_Tires (48,677 posts)
3. Hard truth...
No "coddling", ever... Especially since as a black male I'm in the crosshairs as one of their scapegoats for everything wrong with this country...
And I don't care how legitimate their mythical "economic concerns" were... Voting for an inexperienced unqualified Manhattan billionaire celeb personality (Newsflash: This is a textbook example of those "Establishment Coastal Elites" they despise so much) who literally defecates on a gold-plated toilet because they think he's a man of the people and a Christian completely discredits whatever bullshit point they were trying to prove...
Response to egbertowillies (Original post)Wed Aug 30, 2017, 05:36 PM
Star Member Baitball Blogger (26,494 posts)
7. Everything about our society's status quo has been established to coddle white males.
We would have to question everything about the passes we give white males in our society before we can begin to break a pattern that allows them to game the system.
Be prepared to question why we set up sacred cows through military service and religious preference; or how police patterns of behavior apply undue attention to certain members of society, and not others.
It is not going to be pretty, nor well received.
Response to egbertowillies (Original post)Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:18 PM
Star Member GulfCoast66 (2,456 posts)
12. As a sterotypical supposed Trump supporter...
Upper middle class, white, male, over 50 and raised religious, I say **** 'em.
For 500 year my ancestors exploited others not like them for economic gain. The only reason our(USA) type of racism developed was to help further the ruling class exploit labor from Africans and African Americans. And harkening back to what LBJ said, the whole time the rich were telling the poor whites how good they had it because they were better off than the blacks, both before and after slavery.
Hell, women too. Why are Teachers, Nurses and admin assistants paid less here than other parts of the world? Because rich whites figured they could get single or non married women to do it for pennies on the dollar and that still goes on.
So along comes Reagan and the upper class figure out that they can start doing to white what they have always done to minorities...exploiting their labor for great economic gain. They bet that if they doubled down on the racism they could get away with it.
Trump if proof that they pretty much have.
Rather than pandering to increasingly poor whites, the Democratic party needs to tell them that the upper class are doing the same thing to them that they have done to minorities forever. We need to be screaming that the percent of the GNP that labor has lost has more than been made up by corporate profits. And if they do not listen, they we take comfort that with folks under 30 less than 25% support Trump. Everyday, more and more of his supporters are buried. And we need to tell them with it does not mean reinventing the wheel, go back to liberal economic policy that FDR brought in and their grandparents loved.
But if we soft pedal our commitment to the social justice commitments our party has we are playing into their hands.
You'll have to hit the link to see the BOOK that Franks big-titted girlfriend wrote on the subject, complete with Tiki torches and "global capitalism"
One thing is sure: these mental midgets could potentially be dangerous
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Liberal whites should be the ones apologizing.
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The only ones they're dangerous to is themselves. All their psycho babble means nothing to people struggling for food, shelter, and clothing while watching people who have spent generations on welfare or who crossed into the country illegally being given things for "free".
I see PhDD is still angry at the bern-outs.
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I get the impression that a bunch of this "racists this" and "white supremacy that" is designed to make the average American think that the white population has diminished rapidly and considerably while the black population has grown by leaps and bounds in a very short time. It is all phooey horsecrap of the highest order.
It is some irony that if the racists leftists in this country had not push abortion so rabidly over the last 40 years, the black population would likely have doubled from the percentage it was in 1975.
But that is all blood under the gurney now. The black population remains around 13-14%, and we white folk still make up about 70% over all.
Suck it, DUmmies.
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Star Member Hoyt (30,636 posts)
1. I think when they whine about their poor pitiful plight, we tell them to STFU and
that they have it better than any other group in this country. White wingers are a whiny, greedy bunch.
Personally, I'd also take their damn gunz away. But I guess most think that would be kicking them while they are down.
You are welcome to try it. I can guarantee that there will not be an ambulance or hospital close enough to save your life though.
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Let's see, Star Member egbertowillies has 1365 posts and has donated to Skin ... errrr ... DU. Must've been a substantial donation to be allowed to promote his own blogsite like that. Pay-to-play is the Democrat way!
That aside, I highly approve of DU folk rhetorically clubbing Americans of European ancestry! It worked so well for Hilliary ...
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Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:29 PM
Star Member egbertowillies (1,365 posts)
Should we coddle angry white men or tell them the truth?If you tell all the angry DU members the truth you will be banned!
Much of today's talk is about angry white men who believe that they are getting the short end of the stick. But should we appease them or should we stop lying to them?They won't accept the truth that Hitlery will never be President.
It is too easy to coddle newly aggrieved angry white men when the premise of their grievance is false and misleading. Once again a scholar wrote an article that gets much right but fails to provide the only advice that makes sense.Suicide
PLEASE READ in the intended context and comment constructively.
ESAD
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Response to Marengo (Reply #6)Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:58 PM
Star Member Hoyt (30,636 posts)
11. I advocate disarming militias, Klansmen, white wing racists who are majority of gun fanciers in this
country. I know, there are some who supposedly aren't Klansmen but they do need a gun to walk out the door and are fine with mass murders, armed Klansmen, dead babies, intimidation of people with guns, etc., as long as they have access to more guns.
If the tough Australians can bite the bullet, as they did in 1996, surely "the good" gun fanciers that supposedly exist can give up their bad habit for the good of society. At least that is what I keep telling myself.
That is 90,000,000 armed people who you claimed are KKK, racist, or militia members. How come the number of white on black acts of gun violence is so low?
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That is 90,000,000 armed people who you claimed are KKK, racist, or militia members. How come the number of white on black acts of gun violence is so low?
There is no white on black, black on white, or even black on black violence issues in rural areas to speak of. Hell, violence is unheard of when compared to city stats.
I've come to the conclusion that it is due to the high concentrations of liberals in the cities. They tend to be violent overall.
Out in the sticks, you have to face a man sooner or later, so you'd better be nice today.... that and he's most likely carrying something in his coat pocket to ensure civility reigns... in liberal haven cities, not so much.
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That much self-hate should cause them to be institutionalized.
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Replace 'white' with 'jew' and they might as well be all wearing brown shirts over there.
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I was somewhat curious about the seemingly impressive (although ideologically flawed) level of articulation displayed by Franks big-titted girlfriend in her multi-thousand word reply on that thread.
That initial impression, however, was shattered after a couple of quick google searching and coming to the realization that it was almost entirely plagiarized from various authors across the internet.
Sometimes its exciting to think you may have found an opponent worthy of respect... then reality strikes and one is left realizing they were gullible enough to think any primitive could wield tools of such power and apply them in any meaningful manner.
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As thoroughly disarmed as urban Australia is - thanks to being under a Brit-style registration and licensing system at the time they imposed the ban - I suspect the rural areas have approximately the same level of stashed and buried illegal weaponry as post-War France and Italy.
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Blue_Tires (48,677 posts)
3. Hard truth...
No "coddling", ever...
Cool. We'll start by eliminating your "safe spaces," and then your "gun free zones," and totally dismantle your speech codes, and finally we'll take away your affirmative action. Then let's see what happens when you don't have any "coddling."
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What a maroon. My T-shirt says "White and happy", "Your retarded guilt is not mine"
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My T shirt says
I am a right wing, white wing gun toti'n deplorable that helped send Hilliary back to NY. :-) :-) :-)
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That much self-hate should cause them to be institutionalized.
Suspect that some DUmmies are already in institutions where they have occasions to use the internet.
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Cool. We'll start by eliminating your "safe spaces," and then your "gun free zones," and totally dismantle your speech codes, and finally we'll take away your affirmative action. Then let's see what happens when you don't have any "coddling."
Why do all that? All we have to do is look at them with our mean face and they will melt like a snowflake under a heat lamp. :-)
Basically I am lazy and see no reason to expend more energy than necessary to cause the dummies to go into full meltdown mode. :cheersmate:
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This is why I do not really care if the left thinks I am a racist just by being white. Nothing I do or say will make them think different so why bother.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKy0GatUMAA7pW7.jpg:large)
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As thoroughly disarmed as urban Australia is - thanks to being under a Brit-style registration and licensing system at the time they imposed the ban - I suspect the rural areas have approximately the same level of stashed and buried illegal weaponry as post-War France and Italy.
Your "suspect" is correct. :thumbs:
I've seen it first hand.
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This is why I do not really care if the left thinks I am a racist just by being white. Nothing I do or say will make them think different so why bother.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKy0GatUMAA7pW7.jpg:large)
The chart omits, "Breathes".