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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: TheSarge on August 16, 2008, 01:47:56 AM

Title: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: TheSarge on August 16, 2008, 01:47:56 AM
MOSCOW (AFP)--Russian forces have seized a "large arsenal" of U.S.-made weapons in the western Georgian city of Senaki including hundreds of assault rifles, a military spokesman said Friday.

"In Senaki, we seized a large arsenal of weapons including 664 U.S.-made M-16 rifles" and a number of M-40 sniper rifles, General Anatoly Nogovitsyn told a news conference in Moscow. "There were 1,728 weapons total."

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20080815%5cACQDJON200808150606DOWJONESDJONLINE000377.htm&&mypage=newsheadlines&title=Russia%20Seizes%20Arsenal%20Of%20US%20Weapons%20In%20Georgia%20-%20Military
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on August 16, 2008, 11:27:11 AM
Care to guess which country those weapons will be exported to?......Venezuela?.......Iran?.....Nigeria?.....Mexico?
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: Hawkgirl on August 16, 2008, 11:59:47 AM
Russians are becoming increasingly ballsy, seizing US weapons, [to use against us]...and bragging about it to the press.
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: JohnMatrix on August 16, 2008, 12:09:47 PM
Russians are becoming increasingly ballsy, seizing US weapons, [to use against us]...and bragging about it to the press.

they were Georgian weapons.
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: Hawkgirl on August 16, 2008, 12:12:29 PM
Russians are becoming increasingly ballsy, seizing US weapons, [to use against us]...and bragging about it to the press.

they were Georgian weapons.

US-made weapons now in Georgia.
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: JohnMatrix on August 16, 2008, 12:24:08 PM
Russians are becoming increasingly ballsy, seizing US weapons, [to use against us]...and bragging about it to the press.

they were Georgian weapons.

US-made weapons now in Georgia.

yea, they were used by the georgian military
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 16, 2008, 01:37:44 PM
The purpose of the story was not to impress Americans, but rather Russians.  The Russian government, probably correctly, believes the Russian public will regard this about as warmly as we would regard the Russians dumping a few hundred AKs, RPDs, and Dragunovs off in the Sonora Province of Mexico.
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: TheSarge on August 16, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
Care to guess which country those weapons will be exported to?......Venezuela?.......Iran?.....Nigeria?.....Mexico?

Knowing the Russians...they'll sell them to the Iranians who will turn around and give them to the insurgents to use on U.S. soldiers.
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: rich_t on August 16, 2008, 11:36:41 PM
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including 664 U.S.-made M-16 rifles

BFD...  That isn't all that many.

IMO the M-16 is not all that great as a main battle rifle anyway.
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: MPCOA on August 17, 2008, 11:41:34 AM
Expect the Quds forces to be using them along with knock-off uniforms in Iraq shortly.
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: MPCOA on August 17, 2008, 11:42:41 AM
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including 664 U.S.-made M-16 rifles

BFD...  That isn't all that many.

IMO the M-16 is not all that great as a main battle rifle anyway.

Name a better current one in mass use?
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: docstew on August 17, 2008, 01:34:07 PM
Expect the Quds forces to be using them along with knock-off uniforms in Iraq shortly.

specifically to attack shiite mosques, gotta fan those sectarian flames ya know...
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 17, 2008, 02:38:01 PM
Expect the Quds forces to be using them along with knock-off uniforms in Iraq shortly.

specifically to attack shiite mosques, gotta fan those sectarian flames ya know...

Since they are hard-core, over-the-edge Shi'ites, prolly a lot more likely to be use don the Sunnis if the Squidforce gets them from Vlad.
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 17, 2008, 05:00:35 PM
Ukraine just upped the ante.

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Ukraine offers satellite defence co-operation with Europe and US


Ukraine inflamed mounting East-West tensions yesterday by offering up a Soviet-built satellite facility as part of the European missile defence system.


By Damien McElroy in Tbilisi
Last Updated: 11:24AM BST 17 Aug 2008

The proposal, made amid growing outrage among Russia's neighbours over its military campaign in Georgia, could see Ukraine added to Moscow's nuclear hitlist. A Russian general declared Poland a target for its arsenal after Warsaw signed a deal with Washington to host interceptor missiles for America's anti-nuclear shield.

The move came as the Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, signed a cease-fire deal that sets the stage for a Russian troop withdrawal after more than a week of warfare with its neighbour Georgia.

The deal calls for both Russian and Georgian forces to pull back to positions they held before fighting erupted on August 8. As of last night, though, there was little apparent evidence of a Russian pull-out from the Georgian town of Gori, which Russian tanks and troops took last weekend. Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, insisted a broader withdrawal would be contingent on further security measures.

Just hours before Mr Medvedev put his signature to the ceasefire deal, Russian forces blew up a Georgian railway bridge on the main line west of the capital, Tbilisi, an act that critics interpreted as a malacious attempt to cripple the country's infrastructure. Moscow at first issued a denial, but television footage shot by the Reuters news agency clearly showed the bridge's twisted remains.

The rest is at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/2570285/Ukraine-offers-satellite-defence-co-operation-with-Europe-and-US.html

The Ukrainians have nukes, too.  Methinks that the Russians won't be as cavalier with the Ukrainians as they were with the Georgians.

Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: Airwolf on August 17, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
Bush is telling Russia to leave now.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080816/D92JM6T80.html
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: rich_t on August 17, 2008, 10:04:02 PM
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including 664 U.S.-made M-16 rifles

BFD...  That isn't all that many.

IMO the M-16 is not all that great as a main battle rifle anyway.

Name a better current one in mass use?

In the US military?
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: MPCOA on August 18, 2008, 06:52:44 AM

In the US military?

Obviously it would have to be someone else since the AR series is what the US uses minus a select group of SOF, and technically they still mostly use something based on the AR platform?
Title: Re: Russia Seizes Arsenal Of US Weapons In Georgia - Military
Post by: Chris_ on August 18, 2008, 11:39:24 AM
Care to guess which country those weapons will be exported to?......Venezuela?.......Iran?.....Nigeria?.....Mexico?

Knowing the Russians...they'll sell them to the Iranians who will turn around and give them to the insurgents to use on U.S. soldiers.

Or, more likely against Iraqi civilian targets so that the US can be blamed and hamstrung for "recklessly shooting up civilians".