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Title: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: AzJames73 on August 16, 2017, 04:58:33 PM
Oh my. CalPig is horrified and sickened by this article.

Written by an anonymous author with no credentials. Google turned up nothing. Just the 2 Troopers that were killed in the helo crash.

But Cal Pig is pissed nonetheless.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029472951

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CaliforniaPeggy (122,597 posts)

How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
https://itsgoingdown.org/state-trooper-try-stop-medics-performing-cpr-heather-heyer/

I was horrified and sickened and angered to read this compelling post.


As a queer, non-binary, anarchist, critical care RN/street medic who was the first responder for Heather Heyer, initiating CPR and, with a team of amazing bystanders, facilitating resuscitation until EMS arrived, I feel a compelling need to tell our story.

When we heard the car crash into our march, I was about 20 feet away from Heather, and I responded immediately to the screams for medics. I arrived to find bystanders holding c-spine traction on Heather’s neck and putting pressure on a deep leg wound to stop the bleeding, and I stopped to assist in controlling the bleed. Within a minute or two, Heather’s respirations slowed and stopped, she lost her pulse, we rolled her onto her back, and I began chest compressions. An EMT street medic provided respiratory supplies, and a bystander with medic training began respirations.

One of the critical aspects of Advanced Cardiac Life Support (ACLS), which is the advanced form of CPR that trained medics provide, is maintaining chest compressions at an effective depth and speed, with no breaks in compressions. Providing effective chest compressions is exhausting, and to maintain effective compressions, we ideally provide compressions for only two minutes, and take turns with other medics.

In 90 degree heat, this is even more essential. I was horrified to discover, after two minutes of intense, exhausting chest compressions, that a state trooper had forcibly removed the EMT assisting me in resuscitation, as well as other bystanders ready in line for the next round of compressions. The EMT told the state trooper that we were actively resuscitating a patient, but the state trooper physically removed him from the scene anyway.

The rest at the link.

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redstatebluegirl (2,746 posts)
1. If this is true I hope her family sues the pants off the police department involved.

The State of Virginia state police own this. The Governor who said the right things, needs to begin an investigation on how many Virginia state police belong to the Klan or other white nationalist organizations and fire them!

 :thatsright:


Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: AzJames73 on August 16, 2017, 05:00:22 PM
Stay tuned for a possible bouncy.

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phylny (5,056 posts)
39. My friend's daughter was there, very close to Heather.

We are meeting for dinner tonight. I will not mention this story, but she did say that she was going to tell me what her daughter saw. I will see if there is a cooberating version.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: thundley4 on August 16, 2017, 05:11:02 PM
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The Governor who said the right things, but did everything he could to promote the violenceneeds to be investigated for telling the police to force the two groups together!

Is anyone else bothered by how easily her mother came out and is using her death for political purposes?
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: franksolich on August 16, 2017, 05:12:49 PM
This tall tale, the whole thing, has been debunked; it's a bouncy.

https://www.discussionist.com/10151445227
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: franksolich on August 16, 2017, 05:16:04 PM
What's even more pathetic about this Big Lie is that CalPeg's a nurse (retired), and she more than anyone else (unless another medical professional) should've recognized it as fraudulent right away.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: thundley4 on August 16, 2017, 05:17:36 PM
This tall tale, the whole thing, has been debunked; it's a bouncy.

https://www.discussionist.com/10151445227

It reminded me of a story about how Seth Rich was allowed to die at the hospital.
I know it's WND, but still.

http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/06/1st-responders-seth-rich-was-critical-in-our-ambulance/
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: SVPete on August 16, 2017, 05:18:45 PM
Looks like it's a fictional :bouncy: . (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_cardiac_life_support) ACLS refers to care given in a hospital or ambulance setting situation. Elements include starting an IV, taking and reading EKGs, and defibrillation (possibly including AED). I could be misunderstanding the W'pedia article - or it could be mistaken - but this story should be taken with a very large block of salt.

Not that facts matter on DU.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Skul on August 16, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
*blink* *blink* *blink*

*bleed* *bleed* *bleed*
 
She jerks and squirts her life blood on me

I am now complete
     
--CalPig--
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: whiteguyPI on August 16, 2017, 05:58:30 PM
I can only hope if I suffer a traumatic injury there is a queer non-binary street medic on the scene. Prob the only way anyone would survive.  ::)
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: I_B_Perky on August 16, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
I believe this story because they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true... but only if it advances my narrative!  <<<< dummie
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: DUmpsterDiver on August 16, 2017, 06:04:17 PM
>a queer, non-binary, anarchist, critical care RN/street medic

Reads like a recipe for hala Corrie Pancakes in Gaza.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on August 16, 2017, 06:04:41 PM
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As a queer, non-binary, anarchist, Bi-Racial, Bi-sexual, Bi Lingual, Bi partisan critical care RN/street medic who was the first responder for Heather Heyer, initiating CPR and, with a team of Anarchist bystanders, facilitating resuscitation until EMS arrived, I feel a compelling need to tell our story.

The car ran her ass over and put out her lights, the moral of the story is don't F**k with a Dodge challenger.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: FunkyZero on August 16, 2017, 06:15:07 PM
This tall tale, the whole thing, has been debunked; it's a bouncy.

https://www.discussionist.com/10151445227

as if "As a queer, non-binary, anarchist, critical care RN/street medic" wasn't the dead giveaway...
geez. these people are functionally illiterate. what kind of shallow and single issue mind falls for this crap.
6 months ago I didn't think i would ever see the level of irrational hate again as we saw after the elections. this crap just made it go up by a factor of two.
this crap is SO over the top and delusional, I'm even having problems grasping how anyone could possibly believe any of the foolishness... the narrative, the media promotion of a one-sided event and somehow Trump is a nazi.
I just might have to go offline for a day or two and reset. this stuff is completely outside the realm of comprehension
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: ADsOutburst on August 16, 2017, 06:21:59 PM
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As a queer, non-binary, anarchist, critical care RN/street medic who was the first responder for Heather Heyer, initiating CPR and, with a team of amazing bystanders, facilitating resuscitation until EMS arrived, I feel a compelling need to tell our story.

(https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_800_800/p/4/005/075/390/368373b.jpg)
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Skul on August 16, 2017, 06:39:56 PM
as if "As a queer, non-binary, anarchist, critical care RN/street medic" wasn't the dead giveaway...
geez. these people are functionally illiterate. what kind of shallow and single issue mind falls for this crap.
6 months ago I didn't think i would ever see the level of irrational hate again as we saw after the elections. this crap just made it go up by a factor of two.
this crap is SO over the top and delusional, I'm even having problems grasping how anyone could possibly believe any of the foolishness... the narrative, the media promotion of a one-sided event and somehow Trump is a nazi.
I just might have to go offline for a day or two and reset. this stuff is completely outside the realm of comprehension

It's all troo, Funky. Ebery weird of it.
   
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on August 16, 2017, 06:54:40 PM
If she had stayed home and made sandwiches she would still be alive. :thatsright: :thatsright:
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Carl on August 16, 2017, 07:10:42 PM
This tall tale, the whole thing, has been debunked; it's a bouncy.

https://www.discussionist.com/10151445227

A lefty flame out from today.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: FunkyZero on August 16, 2017, 09:11:32 PM
If she had stayed home and made sandwiches she would still be alive. :thatsright: :thatsright:

ooo I'm using that one.. hehe
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on August 16, 2017, 09:48:50 PM
*blink* *blink* *blink*

*bleed* *bleed* *bleed*
 
She jerks and squirts her life blood on me

I am now complete
     
--CalPig--

That was certainly H-5 worthy! :cheersmate:
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Fourwinds on August 16, 2017, 10:26:24 PM
Is anyone else bothered by how easily her mother came out and is using her death for political purposes?

Not really. Then again I remember Cindy Sheehan.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: SVPete on August 17, 2017, 07:59:09 AM
Is anyone else bothered by how easily her mother came out and is using her death for political purposes?

Not really. Then again I remember Cindy Sheehan.

And Rachel Corie's parents.

Then there's Michael Brown's family ...
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: BadCat on August 17, 2017, 08:03:50 AM
And Rachel Corie's parents.

Then there's Michael Brown's family ...

Ie.  "It's OK my kid got killed, it's all for the cause"
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on August 17, 2017, 08:12:40 AM
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phylny (5,056 posts)
39. My friend's daughter was there, very close to Heather.

We are meeting for dinner tonight. I will not mention this story, but she did say that she was going to tell me what her daughter saw. I will see if there is a cooberating version.
And as we all know, that is even more truer than a corroborating version.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: freedumb2003b on August 17, 2017, 08:16:22 AM
The car ran her ass over and put out her lights, the moral of the story is don't F**k with a Dodge challenger.

I think I may be one of the few to cry for that poor car.  It was a beautiful car before all those thugs beat it and jumped on it.

saint heather of antifa would be alive to self-indulgently cry at her desk today if she had not jumped on the back of a moving car.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Fourwinds on August 17, 2017, 09:01:39 AM
Ie.  "It's OK my kid got killed, it's all for the cause"


Frankly in my opinion it's a shame more leftist parents can't say that today. The only sad thing about this particular day was there weren't more of them under the Dodge's wheels. (Said for the benefit of DU Lurkers. I mean it too DUmmies)
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: 67 Rover on August 17, 2017, 09:05:17 AM
Ie.  "It's OK my kid got killed, it's all for the cause"

Oh and buy our t-shirts to you know commemorate and stuff.

Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: franksolich on August 17, 2017, 10:40:47 AM
I think I may be one of the few to cry for that poor car.  It was a beautiful car before all those thugs beat it and jumped on it.

Yeah, it was a nice-looking car.

It won't happen, but I think it'd be nice of Heather's parents to buy the owner a new one; after all, their daughter wrecked it.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: tuolumnejim on August 17, 2017, 12:43:53 PM
And again there's something more to the story than the lunatics are willing to admit. The cause of this vehicle plowing into the crowd looks to be started by one of the many leftist agitators.

Seconds Before C-ville Car Hit Crowd, a Camera Caught Game-Changing Act (http://conservativetribune.com/charlottesville-car-footage/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=thenewvoice&utm_campaign=can&utm_content=2017-08-16)

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A video posted on Streamable reveals that the driver of the Challenger had slowed down and was apparently calm, until protesters hit his vehicle with a blunt object such as a baseball bat or large flag pole.

Close analysis of video from the deadly incident appears to show a man swinging a large object at the rear bumper of the Challenger, just moments before the driver apparently hit the gas and hit the crowd.

Video of the incident (https://streamable.com/21gc9)
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Undies on August 17, 2017, 02:19:30 PM
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As a queer, non-binary, anarchist, critical care RN/street medic who


I'm not sure it's healthy getting mouth-to-mouth from somebody with dick breath.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on August 17, 2017, 02:38:58 PM

I'm not sure it's healthy getting mouth-to-mouth from somebody with dick breath.

Or it could have been tuna taco!! :lmao:

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I think I may be one of the few to cry for that poor car.  It was a beautiful car before all those thugs beat it and jumped on it.

I would have rented a septic tanker and spared my car. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Drafe Hoblin on August 17, 2017, 04:28:33 PM
Does an amazing bystander make an amazing post-reader?
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: freedumb2003b on August 17, 2017, 04:51:19 PM
Does an amazing bystander make an amazing post-reader?

Well, she did make quite an impression on that parked car she got thrown into.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: franksolich on August 17, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
I think I may be one of the few to cry for that poor car.  It was a beautiful car before all those thugs beat it and jumped on it.

saint heather of antifa would be alive to self-indulgently cry at her desk today if she had not jumped on the back of a moving car.

I see there's been circa $225,000 raised on gofundme for her parents.

I think they need to share, with the owner of the Dodge that their daughter destroyed, buying him a new one; it's not as if they wouldn't have pocket change left over.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: FunkyZero on August 17, 2017, 06:19:28 PM
I see there's been circa $225,000 raised on gofundme for her parents.

I think they need to share, with the owner of the Dodge that their daughter destroyed, buying him a new one; it's not as if they wouldn't have pocket change left over.

I used that along with grumpys sammich line on the DI toadies and didn't get much of a reaction. I was expecting rage but I think we've beat them down a little too hard lately
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 17, 2017, 07:47:15 PM
I used that along with grumpys sammich line on the DI toadies and didn't get much of a reaction. I was expecting rage but I think we've beat them down a little too hard lately

Impossible!  They require all of the beating they can be given.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Fourwinds on August 17, 2017, 08:21:28 PM
Just goes to show you that listening matters. I mean the damn car had "Dodge" in it's name.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 18, 2017, 07:46:56 AM
Just goes to show you that listening matters. I mean the damn car had "Dodge" in it's name.

Annnnd, Fourwinds for the win!

H5!
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: docstew on August 18, 2017, 08:43:00 PM
Looks like it's a fictional :bouncy: . (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_cardiac_life_support) ACLS refers to care given in a hospital or ambulance setting situation. Elements include starting an IV, taking and reading EKGs, and defibrillation (possibly including AED). I could be misunderstanding the W'pedia article - or it could be mistaken - but this story should be taken with a very large block of salt.

Not that facts matter on DU.

Mostly correct, except for the use of the AED. Automated External Defibrillators analyze the patient's cardiac electrical activity and give a recommendation on a simple shock/no-shock question. ACLS providers are trained to do their own analysis, and would be using a much more complex defibrillation machine that would be capable of being carefully dialed in for energy delivered, etc.
There is nothing special about CPR for ACLS providers.
If their story about her injuries is correct (a large if), they probably killed her by letting her bleed while they worried about her c spine. Always stop bleeding first, because you can't put the blood back in.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: SVPete on August 19, 2017, 07:20:05 AM
Mostly correct, except for the use of the AED. Automated External Defibrillators analyze the patient's cardiac electrical activity and give a recommendation on a simple shock/no-shock question. ACLS providers are trained to do their own analysis, and would be using a much more complex defibrillation machine that would be capable of being carefully dialed in for energy delivered, etc.
There is nothing special about CPR for ACLS providers.
If their story about her injuries is correct (a large if), they probably killed her by letting her bleed while they worried about her c spine. Always stop bleeding first, because you can't put the blood back in.

Thanks, & :hi5:.
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Old n Grumpy on August 19, 2017, 04:42:07 PM
Just goes to show you that listening matters. I mean the damn car had "Dodge" in it's name.

H5   :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :-) :-) :-) :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

The line of the day!!!
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: freedumb2003b on August 19, 2017, 04:44:08 PM
Just goes to show you that listening matters. I mean the damn car had "Dodge" in it's name.

You wins the interwebz!
Title: Re: How Heather Heyer died........a post from ItsGoingDown.
Post by: Movie buff- The Sequel on August 19, 2017, 08:37:22 PM
as if "As a queer, non-binary, anarchist, critical care RN/street medic" wasn't the dead giveaway...

Beat me to it!
The fact that this brainless author felt the need to unnecessarily insert all of that AS THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE IN THE BOGUS STORY is all the proof needed to know that story was a total crock meant to inspire admiration from liberal morons. I'm genuinely surprised he/ she didn't throw in "Black" and/ or "Muslim" for extra street- cred.