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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BadCat on August 16, 2017, 07:38:42 AM
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We have this thread posted with pride by babbleonSister.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029470284 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029470284)
babylonsister (154,481 posts)
I Am the Alt-Left, Mr. President
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/08/15/im-alt-left-mister-president/
john pavlovitz
Stuff That Needs To Be Said
I Am the Alt-Left, Mr. President
August 15, 2017 / John Pavlovitz
Mr. President,
Thank you for giving me a name today.
I wasn’t quite sure until now, but you helped me find myself.
“Alt-Left.”
That’s what you said.
That’s what you called me, what you called us.
Apparently of the two supposedly equally hateful sides in all this—I belong to that one.
Opposite us in Charlottesville this week (on the other side), I saw men with torches and handguns, men screaming “blood and soil”, men intimidating clergy, men beating people with pipes, men screaming anti-Semitic slurs, men so fueled with rage for strangers, that one of them plowed his car into a crowd of them.
Heather Heyer was among that crowd, Mr. President.
Heather Heyer died there in the street.
That was her name, since you couldn’t be bothered to learn it.
She was 32 years old.
Heather was apparently on this side.
She was among the Alt-Left you condemned today.
She was one of us; the supposedly equally hateful ones, the alleged partners in this carnage, those you claim to be equivalently culpable for the bloodshed.
She was to blame.
Heather marched on behalf of people she didn’t know, but valued greatly.
She spoke for people who are so often silenced by people like you.
She stood for those who are pushed to the margins of this life by people like you.
She declared the worth of all people, regardless of the color of their skin or their sexual orientation or their religious beliefs.
She lived this way; open-hearted, generously, sacrificially, humbly.
She died proclaiming that another life was as precious as her own; that every human being is intrinsically valuable, that every person is worth dying for.
And if that is the Alt-Left, Mr President—you can count me in.
That’s the side I choose. That’s the side I will live and gladly die with.
I want to be on Heather Heyer’s side.
I want to be on the side of equality.
I want to be on the side of justice.
I want to be on the side of compassion.
I want to be on the side of decency.
I want to be on the side of love.
I want to be on the side that stands opposite men with torches and contorted faces and taunts and pipes, and weaponized vehicles targeted at strangers.
I want to be on the side that stands opposite those screaming “blood and soil”; those consumed with rage for people because of their pigmentation or their God or the person they love.
I want to be on the side that stands opposite the preachers spewing venom and damnation upon those who are working to make this country as diverse as Heaven is supposed to look.
I want to be on the side that stands opposite those who believe their bloodline or their place of birth makes them superior to anyone.
I want to be on the side that stands opposite racists and Nazis and radicalized Christian terrorists.
And I want to be on the side opposite you, Mr President, because you’ve made it clear where you stand.
You’ve made it clear your allegiance.
You laid it out in black and white.
You shown us all which side you’re on.
You are on the side of the men with torches and contorted faces and taunts and pipes, and weaponized vehicles targeted at strangers—and I find that unacceptable.
You are not worthy of this country, you aren’t worthy of leading our people, you aren’t worthy of the beautiful lives you endanger with every second of your hateful, fraudulent, toxic tenure. And most of all you aren’t worth the grief hateful people emboldened by you produce here.
And so yes, thank you for crystallizing it for me today; for all of us.
Thank you for aligning people of every race and religion, every age and orientation, every native tongue and place of birth; the millions who will not stand by you or with you—but against you.
Thank you for showing me where I want to be in all this.
Thank you for choosing the sides for me.
Yes, I am the Alt-Left, Mr. President.
If those opposing bigotry, discrimination, and dehumanization are Alt-Left, then I will be that too.
And I’m in good company.
And this one...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029470346 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029470346)
Le Gaucher (284 posts)
I am not Alt-Left. I am not going to let you ctrl me. And I am going to Del you.
In fact we need to Ctrl+ Alt + Del the presidency.
What the **** is Alt left??
Which is it you ****ing morons?
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It's a shame that Heather Heyer died along with the other 19 others were hurt. But these individuals are protesting along side, and often members of, antifa (a bunch of fascists), BLM, the Workers World Party members (commies), and other like minded Marxist organizations. You hang out with bad elements and bad things are going to happen to you.
Them's the :rulez:
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And the left & media (same thing) have been creating a new Boogeyman, the "Alt-Right". Terms like that and accusations of supposed Russian collusion didn't really emerge until after November 8th.
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Waiting for them to come up with the Heather Wessel Lied any day now...
:whatever:
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There were decent people among the protestors; There were evil people among the protestors.
There were decent people among the counter-protestors; There were evil people among the counter-protestors.
But DU-folk and DU-grade Progs need Charlottesville to be cops 'n' robbers good guys vs. bad guys. Fantasy is that simple; reality was not.
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And the left & media (same thing) have been creating a new Boogeyman, the "Alt-Right". Terms like that and accusations of supposed Russian collusion didn't really emerge until after November 8th.
There 2 new terms Alt-Right and White Nationalism. From what I understand White Nationalism isn't about white supremacy. It is concerned with the way that whites have been made second class citizens due to affirmative action. It doesn't stand for whites being a superior race but that everyone should be treated with the same criteria when applying for jobs, housing, welfare benefits, government benefits or schools. The Southern Poverty Law Center is at the forefront of mislabeling groups to fit in their narrow minded view of how things should be.
Alt-Right seems to have any definition that the libs want it to have at any given moment.
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It's a shame that Heather Heyer died along with the other 19 others were hurt. But these individuals are protesting in traffic along side, with and often members of, antifa (a bunch of fascists), BLM, the Workers World Party members (commies), and other like minded Marxist organizations. You hang out in traffic with bad elements and bad things are going to happen to you.
Them's the :rulez:
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Added some of my own thoughts to your well written statement. :cheersmate:
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Opposite us in Charlottesville this week (on the other side), I saw men with torches and handguns, men screaming “blood and soil”, men intimidating clergy, men beating people with pipes, men screaming anti-Semitic slurs, men so fueled with rage for strangers, that one of them plowed his car into a crowd of them.
Side note. I see the fact that some the protesters were armed with firearms being brought up a lot by the left. Considering what went on you would expect that the people being injured or killed would have been shot...if you subscribed to the DUmmie view of firearms possession.
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There were decent people among the protestors; There were evil people among the protestors.
There were decent people among the counter-protestors; There were evil people among the counter-protestors.
But DU-folk and DU-grade Progs need Charlottesville to be cops 'n' robbers good guys vs. bad guys. Fantasy is that simple; reality was not.
Exactly. The Lunatic-Left loves shadowy "opposition" forces, and all thier means justify the ends.
Buckle up, folks.
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Side note. I see the fact that some the protesters were armed with firearms being brought up a lot by the left. Considering what went on you would expect that the people being injured or killed would have been shot...if you subscribed to the DUmmie view of firearms possession.
There was a post on DU saying much the same thing. And yes, the left has led people to believe that these gun-carrying protestors are highly volatile and afraid of anything that moves.
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It's a shame that Heather Heyer died along with the other 19 others were hurt. But these individuals are protesting along side, and often members of, antifa (a bunch of fascists), BLM, the Workers World Party members (commies), and other like minded Marxist organizations. You hang out with bad elements and bad things are going to happen to you.
Them's the :rulez:
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I saw the best angle of the video showing exactly what happened to her. She was rachel corried: She jumped on the car while it was stopped. Then it went into reverse and slammed her into a parked car.
No tears from me for the girl who wasted her employer's time crying at her desk. Those tears were tears of self-importance, not actual care.
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I saw the best angle of the video showing exactly what happened to her. She was rachel corried: She jumped on the car while it was stopped. Then it went into reverse and slammed her into a parked car.
No tears from me for the girl who wasted her employer's time crying at her desk. Those tears were tears of self-importance, not actual care.
You have a link to that video?
If that is the case, my "give a damn" meter for her will be registering ZERO.
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You have a link to that video?
If that is the case, my "give a damn" meter for her will be registering ZERO.
I would be very interested in seeing that video, as well.
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What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now!
~BLack Lives Matter
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There were decent people among the protestors; There were evil people among the protestors.
There were decent people among the counter-protestors; There were evil people among the counter-protestors.
But DU-folk and DU-grade Progs need Charlottesville to be cops 'n' robbers good guys vs. bad guys. Fantasy is that simple; reality was not.
The left calls us hypocrites for calling out their acts of violence. The scream "False equivalency!!!!11!!". The thing is, we have to call them out, because as far as I can tell, they don't call out their own. They never seem to acknowledge the violence their own extremist elements. It's like talking to a communist about the genocide committed by communist dictators; their attitude is, "Ah, well. Yes, some bad things happened. Ho-hum. Ah well, ANTIFA, whatever."
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The left calls us hypocrites for calling out their acts of violence. The scream "False equivalency!!!!11!!". The thing is, we have to call them out, because as far as I can tell, they don't call out their own. They never seem to acknowledge the violence their own extremist elements. It's like talking to a communist about the genocide committed by communist dictators; their attitude is, "Ah, well. Yes, some bad things happened. Ho-hum. Ah well, ANTIFA, whatever."
Neo-Nazis want to suppress/kill people for their skin color. Antifoids and BAMN want to suppress/kill people for their political views. Plus or minus who they want to suppress/kill, they are morally equivalent.
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Ok, here's a video...
https://www.rt.com/usa/399473-charlottesville-car-rampage-video/
At about 13 seconds in, you see some moonbat jump on the back of the car, the driver then high speeds outta here in reverse. The moonbat looks like she? gets crushed.
Oh well.
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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There is no pity party here for Heather or the other injured. they were there to start trouble, destroy property and to do harm to others. They got what they deserved.