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Title: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: bijou on August 15, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
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flashl  (1000+ posts)      Fri Aug-15-08 11:02 AM
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Beggars can't be sitters on Santa Monica's benches
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The city is about to pass a law keeping panhandlers and other solicitors on their feet in the promenade area.

By Martha Groves, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 15, 2008



Santa Monica has a message for panhandlers on the Third Street Promenade: Stand up, please.

If you're going to ask for cheeseburgers or spare change -- or sell cookies (and you know who you are) -- don't do it while resting on one of the public chairs or benches.

That goes for you, Mr. Greenpeace Advocate. And you too, little Miss Girl Scout.

Having restricted, to some degree, where homeless people can eat and sleep, Santa Monica is zeroing in on panhandlers.

The City Council voted unanimously last month to prohibit solicitation by anyone sitting on public chairs or benches on the Third Street Promenade and the so-called transit mall along two neighboring streets, Broadway and Santa Monica Boulevard. The ordinance, which must be approved on a second reading, expected next month, does not seek to ban panhandling or solicitation outright but rather to free up limited public seating.

There then follows one of  the most breathtakingly stupid posts I have ever seen on DU

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flashl  (1000+ posts)      Fri Aug-15-08 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Their goal is to have them stand. Wasn't standing for long periods a technique of interrogation used
 by the Boosh admin?
 
link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=230x3505)
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: comradebillyboy on August 15, 2008, 04:34:50 PM
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flashl  (1000+ posts)      Fri Aug-15-08 11:02 AM
Original message
Beggars can't be sitters on Santa Monica's benches
 Advertisements [?]
The city is about to pass a law keeping panhandlers and other solicitors on their feet in the promenade area.

By Martha Groves, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 15, 2008



Santa Monica has a message for panhandlers on the Third Street Promenade: Stand up, please.

If you're going to ask for cheeseburgers or spare change -- or sell cookies (and you know who you are) -- don't do it while resting on one of the public chairs or benches.

That goes for you, Mr. Greenpeace Advocate. And you too, little Miss Girl Scout.

Having restricted, to some degree, where homeless people can eat and sleep, Santa Monica is zeroing in on panhandlers.

The City Council voted unanimously last month to prohibit solicitation by anyone sitting on public chairs or benches on the Third Street Promenade and the so-called transit mall along two neighboring streets, Broadway and Santa Monica Boulevard. The ordinance, which must be approved on a second reading, expected next month, does not seek to ban panhandling or solicitation outright but rather to free up limited public seating.

There then follows one of  the most breathtakingly stupid posts I have ever seen on DU

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flashl  (1000+ posts)      Fri Aug-15-08 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Their goal is to have them stand. Wasn't standing for long periods a technique of interrogation used
 by the Boosh admin?
 
link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=230x3505)

Santa Monica's goal is to persuade them to go somewhere else to bother people. They don't have to stand for long periods of time, they can go somewhere else and sit. maybe the rail road tracks. Oops, I am a liberal, i should have more compassion. Sorry for being so mean spirited. :rotf:
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: Chris_ on August 15, 2008, 04:42:22 PM
FOUND IT!

Video of the Santa Monica city council announcing the new 'Torture' policy for panhandlers...

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Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: Chris on August 15, 2008, 04:43:49 PM
How did I know it was going to be a Mel Brooks movie? :-)
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: Airwolf on August 15, 2008, 05:08:42 PM
I wonder how many Democrats are on the Santa Monica City Council?
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: Donpeyote on August 15, 2008, 06:13:56 PM
If The Gang Bangers chase the Pan handlers outta Venice then Culver City is the last  Resort ! (There they can visit the Snake Handlers church) :popcorn:
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: jendf on August 15, 2008, 06:28:39 PM
They passed a similar "no loitering" law in Tempe several years ago. All of the homeless there would stand in front of the businesses and panhandle. It was driving customers away. People don't like being accosted in front of every store. Imagine that.
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 15, 2008, 06:35:20 PM
For Gawd's sake don't offer them a drink from the garden hose or the DUmmies will be apoplectic.
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: Lacarnut on August 15, 2008, 08:33:22 PM
Wow, sound like shades of Gitmo. Seriously, the New Orleans police force does not need an ordinance to roust panhandlers sitting or laying on park benches. They tell them to move and if they don't, they get wacked with a night stick.
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: Lord Undies on August 15, 2008, 09:52:11 PM
Torture would be breaking bones in their feet and then making them stand.  Torture would be being forced to socialize with someone who posts on DemocratUnderground.com.
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: Lord Undies on August 15, 2008, 09:59:51 PM



Santa Monica's goal is to persuade them to go somewhere else to bother people. They don't have to stand for long periods of time, they can go somewhere else and sit. maybe the rail road tracks. Oops, I am a liberal, i should have more compassion. Sorry for being so mean spirited. :rotf:

Having compassion for normal everyday people trying to live their lives unmolested by bums is nothing to be ashamed about.  Non-bums are people too.  They deserve your concern.     
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: comradebillyboy on August 15, 2008, 10:04:19 PM



Santa Monica's goal is to persuade them to go somewhere else to bother people. They don't have to stand for long periods of time, they can go somewhere else and sit. maybe the rail road tracks. Oops, I am a liberal, i should have more compassion. Sorry for being so mean spirited. :rotf:

Having compassion for normal everyday people trying to live their lives unmolested by bums is nothing to be ashamed about.  Non-bums are people too.  They deserve your concern.     

right you are
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: Chris_ on August 18, 2008, 09:38:10 AM
How did I know it was going to be a Mel Brooks movie? :-)

What else makes sense where DUmmy hyperventilation is concerned?
Title: Re: Panhandlers to be tortured in Santa Monica?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 18, 2008, 09:53:30 AM
Sounds like an elegant solution to the problem of useless bums keeping the people for whom the benches were built from being able to use them.  Well-played, Santa Monica!