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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 15, 2008, 01:59:05 PM
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Oh my.
Now the primitives don't like John Conyers.
RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 01:10 PM
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John Conyers : Tea Whistle on Democracy Now
I just watched Ron Suskind's 2nd part interview with Amy Goodman. John Conyers was also "there" via phone.
Over the last 8 years I have seen Conyers promise this or that... investigate this or that.. and nothing ever happens.
When I hear Conyers speak at these hearings, he says a lot of words without saying anything that isn't already known.
On Democracy Now he refused to discuss Iran-Contra. He said it's history and his current "investigation" is about what's going on right now. Well, Conyers, if you don't know or don't want to admit that these same assholes in power right now are the same ones involved in Iran-Contra, then why should anyone care what you do? All you do is provide a "vent."
Conyers is a tea-whistle.
He lets Americans who have HAD IT with this govt. let off steam. He makes noises but does nothing himself. Over and over and over again.
Why should any of us in this nation believe that anyone in the govt, democrat or republican, is not utterly and totally corrupt and is a part of the problem?
If Bush were a democrat doing all this shit, believe me, the Republicans would be on him 24/7. He would have already been impeached. He would already be facing criminal charges upon the end of his term.
What reason do any of us have anymore to think that our govt works?
What reason do any of us have to continue to trust any elected official? To think that laws matter? To think that the law is fairly applied, no matter what one's status or bank account?
I'm tired of demanding action and getting a tea whistle instead.
Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 01:23 PM
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1. I heard him this morning. He was more than a tad defensive....
The mike_c primitive:
mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 01:25 PM
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2. I was really disappointed with Conyers in that interview....
He said absolutely NOTHING of substance, just blew a lot of hot air, mostly about himself. Very disappointing.
RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 01:37 PM
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3. I was embarrassed.
Suskind is a republican, at least a former one, and he can say things of greater substance than Conyers?
shameful.
This isn't the first time he's been like this, that I've seen. I watched him on c-span on a previous hearing and I just had to turn off the tv b/c he made me want to scream.
A lot of hot air.
magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 01:39 PM
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4. Tea whistle is exactly right
I figured this out about him a while ago. It was a very disappointing realization, especially remembering how vigorous and thorough he was with the basement hearings and election fraud. But since 2006 he's become part of the larger problem of inaction by the Dems. I've had it with most of them and their desire to downplay BushCo's crimes by ascribing calls for impeachment to simple dislike of Bush**. They sound like Republicans.
RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 01:45 PM
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5. I think this govt is broken
And Suskind is right. We HAVE TO have some justice after these 8 years or we will continue to decline as a nation with the power to influence the world. And I mean justice, not window dressing.
This ENTIRE govt has so damaged the constitution by their actions or lack of that I don't understand why their deeds do not make them all treasonous bastards.
One wonders what the pissy hound primitive thinks the Constitution is.
magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 02:14 PM
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7. It's completely broken
And most of them ARE guilty, if not of treason then at least of failing to uphold their oaths of office, which is why nothing substantive will be done about it. If most of the cops are corrupt....
Remember, what we know is just a small fraction of the larger truths. Imagine what we DON'T know.
It's a reasonably large bonfire, the primitives talking about the Constitution like a bunch of village idiots discussing the neurological characteristics of rocks.
And, we have the stupidest person on the whole entire internet, Doug's ex-wife:
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 04:50 PM
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18. We are no longer a nation of laws.
I never thought I'd see the day when the worse we thought didn't actually measure up to how bad things really are.
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-15-08 03:02 AM
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24. Conyers is not doing enough. You don't have to be blood thirsty to know that, you merely have to be reasonably aware of the many crimes of the Bush White House.
And Mr. Conyers is not inflicting anything on anyone. He's running out the clock as he has been instructed to do.
Damn, that's one really stupid dame, Doug's ex-wife.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-14-08 01:10 PM
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John Conyers : Tea Whistle on Democracy Now
I just watched Ron Suskind's 2nd part interview with Amy Goodman. John Conyers was also "there" via phone.
Over the last 8 years I have seen Conyers promise this or that... investigate this or that.. and nothing ever happens.
It got you to vote for him again, didn't it?
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He lets Americans who have HAD IT with this govt. let off steam.
To be exact he lets you loons let off steam and takes your money.
He considers you insane nutballs like we do except he needs ya...we laugh at ya.
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They don't like Conyers because he's black.
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They don't like Conyers because he's black.
Damn, and here I always thought the black one was John Dingell.
I can't keep the white guys separate from the black guys.
I guess I make a lousy racist.
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Damn, and here I always thought the black one was John Dingell.
I can't keep the white guys separate from the black guys.
I guess I make a lousy racist.
If Dingell didn't do something exactly how they desired, no doubt it would be because he's black.
I figure if they can make the claim against us (and they would), then fair play back to them.
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I figure if they can make the claim against us (and they would), then fair play back to them.
Oh yes.
This is one of the two things--and the more obvious of the two things--that's going to sink the campaign of Barry "Goldwater" Obama; this "you're a racist" thing.
The Obamaites, and the Obamaite primitives, are going to push too hard, and it's going to disturb, to one degree or another, the 85% of the electorate who isn't black.
I can see it; millions of voters in Democrat strongholds such as Massachusetts or Michigan or Maryland or any other blue state, getting riled up by any insinuation that they're "racist," and they're going to vote, or not vote, accordingly.
Sit back, watch, wait, and see if I'm not right.
The Obamaites, and the Obamaite primitives, are pushing this WAY too hard; it's going to ricochet.