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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: HAPPY2BME on July 09, 2017, 08:39:34 PM

Title: YOU’RE FIRED! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct
Post by: HAPPY2BME on July 09, 2017, 08:39:34 PM

Five hundred and forty-eight Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) employees have been terminated since President Donald Trump took office, indicating that his campaign pledge to clean up “probably the most incompetently run agency in the United States” by relentlessly putting his TV catch phrase “you’re fired” into action was more than just empty rhetoric.

Another 200 VA workers were suspended and 33 demoted, according to data newly published by the department as part of VA Secretary David Shulkin’s commitment to greater transparency. Those disciplined include 22 senior leaders, more than 70 nurses, 14 police officers, and 25 physicians.

Also disciplined were a program analyst dealing with the Government Accountability Office, which audits the department, a public affairs specialist, a chief of police and a chief of surgery.

Many housekeeping aides and food service workers — lower-level jobs in which the department has employed felons and convicted sex offenders — were also fired.


http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/09/youre-fired-trumps-va-terminates-500-suspends-200-for-misconduct/
Title: Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct
Post by: franksolich on July 09, 2017, 08:41:36 PM
Good.

There's plenty of decent and civilized people who can use those jobs.
Title: Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct
Post by: docstew on July 10, 2017, 08:18:07 PM
First I'd prefer that they determine if those jobs are even necessary...
Title: Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 11, 2017, 04:16:24 AM
First I'd prefer that they determine if those jobs are even necessary...

I like your approach.
Title: Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct
Post by: NHSparky on July 11, 2017, 08:43:00 AM
First I'd prefer that they determine if those jobs are even necessary...

Not just that.  Since 2001, the DVA budget has QUADRUPLED.  Now I ask you, is this because of the Iraq/Afghanistan vets?  Hardly.  In fact, they account for about 5 percent of the increase.  Military retirees?  Not so much, considering how many use TRICARE.  Even service-connected disability is not as prevalent as one might think.

WWII/Korea vets?  Some, but most of the WWII vets are gone, as are many, if not most Korea-era vets.

Vietnam?  Certainly, considering even the youngest Vietnam-era vets are now in their 60's.  This is the bulk of the burden, but even so, with 3 million VN-era vets, not all of whom use VA services.

Bottom line--we're throwing more and more money at a shrinking veteran population.  Why?  And really, how much of it is going to the vets, and how much is going to an ever-bloated bureaucracy?
Title: Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct
Post by: HAPPY2BME on July 11, 2017, 09:05:40 AM
Bottom line--we're throwing more and more money at a shrinking veteran population.  Why?  And really, how much of it is going to the vets, and how much is going to an ever-bloated bureaucracy?

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Most of that money is going to the VA bureaucracy, which has outlived its purpose.

Do away with the VA entirely and just send Disabled Veterans into the private sector for health care.  Much better care, much less cost.  Trump has even suggested this.
Title: Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct
Post by: Old n Grumpy on July 11, 2017, 10:28:05 AM
It definatly time to root out the bad apples and to remove the bloat from all the govt agencies. President Trump is really doing what he promised. :cheersmate: :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: YOU’RE FIRED! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct
Post by: docstew on July 12, 2017, 02:09:12 PM
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Most of that money is going to the VA bureaucracy, which has outlived its purpose.

Do away with the VA entirely and just send Disabled Veterans into the private sector for health care.  Much better care, much less cost.  Trump has even suggested this.

There's three main programs that the VA coordinates: Healthcare (obviously), GI Bill, and VA Mortgage assistance. Healthcare is the only one of the three that has direct responsibility for providing the service; for the other two, it's just an eligibility verification and/or payment of set amount of funds. That's the model they should go to for all services, if not folding the Dept entirely and absorbing the services back under DoD.