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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: zeitgeist on June 04, 2017, 08:44:58 PM
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Time to take it to the streets. :lmao:
Will the DNC stage a Rascal rebellion in DC. I can see it now, First there was Rolling Thunder, today it is the Rascal Rebellion! Brought to you by the DNC and Depends.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029158092
RKP5637 (45,335 posts)
If this were the 60's, many people would rise up against the Trump regime. Without the threat of the
draft as in the sixties, the implications are not always felt. Also, maybe there is more suppression today against uprising against Trump. He seems to just sail along. The investigations will hopefully derail him. It seems no matter what he does, the GOP is with him. I smell a dictatorship in the future if congress does not take action. Am I way off base here? IMO there is a coup.
1. We have a corporate cable media machine today
And Internet media which the right is heavily investing in: Facebook, Breitbart, Ijc, daily caller, RT, Sputnik , Reason.
The biggest difference in the response to these scandals is the way Americans get their information today. And Putin and the GOP donor individuals and corporations are waging an information war that the middle class of America is losing.
I grabbed a bunch of posts just to give a bit of zeitgeist to the OP, there is lots more lunacy at the link.
Response to PoiBoy (Reply #8)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:47 PM
Star Member sharedvalues (1,400 posts)
22. We're losing the information war - who is fighting back?
We need grassroots groups to fight back...
Response to sharedvalues (Reply #22)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:37 PM
Star Member RKP5637 (45,335 posts)
55. Consistently, the RW has the upper hand in the media/information war. It's so damn
corporate owned now by a few, the RW is just a shoe in. No democracy in that.
Response to sharedvalues (Reply #1)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:57 PM
Star Member RKP5637 (45,335 posts)
27. I was looking at this recently, the prevalence of right leaning entities wherever one looks. Left
leaning are far and few between. The wars of information and control are really where it's at. A resolved mind is often hard to change. It seems to be how humanity often works, primacy principle and all.
Response to sharedvalues (Reply #1)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 04:04 PM
Warpy (94,159 posts)
29. Yes, people ARE rising up
The news media look the other way. We can't depend on them AT ALL to tell us anything.
The news is on the net and in print. What's on the television is just plain ****ing useless.
Response to Warpy (Reply #29)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 06:33 PM
Star Member RKP5637 (45,335 posts)
53. It is useless. Television has become a damn useless medium, and a propaganda arm. n/t
Response to RKP5637 (Original post)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 02:45 PM
NobodyHere (2,402 posts)
2. Sure they would have
Response to RKP5637 (Original post)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 02:46 PM
Star Member MineralMan (94,614 posts)
3. They're rising up now, and in about the same numbers, frankly.
It was always just a few percent of people who actively protested. They're out there right now, if you want to join them.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #3)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:03 PM
Star Member RKP5637 (45,335 posts)
7. Maybe I felt it more because I was in school back then. n/t
Response to RKP5637 (Reply #7)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:23 PM
Star Member MineralMan (94,614 posts)
12. Yes, and so was I, most of that time.
When you're in the protests, they seem larger somehow, but anti-Trump protests are turning out large numbers of people, too. I no longer do street activism. I'm too old and can't walk so far as I could. But, people are turning out. They did yesterday, too.
I'm not seeing a lot of difference between the 60s and now, really. It takes some time to build huge numbers, but there have been many protests with very large turnouts already, and Trump's term in office is still new.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #3)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 03:11 PM
bettyellen (41,859 posts)
9. But it's women in vast numbers, men appear to be sitting it out.
Not just the women's march but the lawyers showing up the first weekend of the travel band 70/30 women. Most of the protests- well except the pro Trump ones. Sure if we had the draft they'd be out.
MichMary (395 posts)
60. I barely remember the 60's, but
--you do know that Johnson and the protests brought us--Richard Nixon.
Enjoy.
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Setting aside the lie they tell themselves about the media being pro-corporate, if they truly felt that way, then why hitch yourself to the Dems? There's no political party with more ties to Wall Street and multi-national corporate contributions/support than the Democrat party and there was no presidential candidate with more corporate backing than Hillary.
So consider this; the anti-corporate controlled media primitives support the top corporate controlled political party who had as their top candidate the individual who had the most corporate backing than anyone has ever had. And to top it all, they don't think anyone will notice.
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Response to RKP5637 (Original post)Sun Jun 4, 2017, 02:46 PM
Star Member MineralMan (94,614 posts)
3. They're rising up now, and in about the same numbers, frankly.
It was always just a few percent of people who actively protested. They're out there right now, if you want to join them.
Protests have become passe. Just like the "Occupy" nonsense that ended up hurting the cause, so have these public tantrums become ho-hum at best and head-shakers for Mr. & Mrs. America.
Please rocknuts, do go feel self-important and carry a sign that says "I resist" or "blame Russia" or something equally meaningless. It will help (R) in 2018 and 2020 and beyond.
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What kind of :stoner: -smoke fantasy world do they live in?
ABC - solidly Lib-Prog
CBS - solidly Lib-Prog
CNN - solidly Lib-Prog
NBC - solidly Lib-Prog
MSNBC - loony-toony Prog
NYT - Prog, trending loony
USA Today - reliably Liberal
WashPost - Prog, trending loony
And then there's loony Prog sites like ThinkProgress, Media Matters, HuffPo, Salon, and more than I call to my under-caffeinated mind.
Libs' and Progs' problem isn't that their message is not being heard; their problem is that their message IS being heard.
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What kind of :stoner: -smoke fantasy world do they live in?
ABC - solidly Lib-Prog
CBS - solidly Lib-Prog
CNN - solidly Lib-Prog
NBC - solidly Lib-Prog
MSNBC - loony-toony Prog
NYT - Prog, trending loony
USA Today - reliably Liberal
WashPost - Prog, trending loony
And then there's loony Prog sites like ThinkProgress, Media Matters, HuffPo, Salon, and more than I call to my under-caffeinated mind.
Libs' and Progs' problem isn't that their message is not being heard; their problem is that their message IS being heard.
The press is also lazy. When one of these media organizations get their talking points from the DNC the others dutifully run with the same garbage.
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The press is also lazy. When one of these media organizations get their talking points from the DNC the others dutifully run with the same garbage.
Bill Clinton played their laziness masterfully. He knew that given a choice between kowtowing for access or being cut off and having to work to get stories, the MSM would kowtow. As hamhandedly as Obama played them, they still licked his boots. Now the MSM's access is to various D orgs.
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Yeah, ****in' HUGE turnout you asswipes had yesterday...
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/06/Crowd-Gathering-Truth-Photo-1-1024x346.png)
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Yeah, ****in' HUGE turnout you asswipes had yesterday...
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/06/Crowd-Gathering-Truth-Photo-1-1024x346.png)
That picture is from this Breitbart article. (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/03/liberal-activists-demand-russia-investigation-trump-impeachment-at-march-for-truth/) The article puts their numbers in the "hundreds", and at the time that pic was taken I'd guess 200-400. Not nothing, not impressive. The charity race I did yesterday had about as many runners doing just the marathon and half marathon distances (with many, many more doing the 10K and 5K distances).
As for MM's comment, "I'm too old and can't walk so far as I could.", looks like the farthest those people walked was from the parking lot to the grassy field where they listened and made responsive noises on cue.
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Yeah, ****in' HUGE turnout you asswipes had yesterday...
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/06/Crowd-Gathering-Truth-Photo-1-1024x346.png)
Not even a drone.
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Not even a drone.
Funny, I see hundreds of drones, :rimshot: .
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Time to trot out one of frank's time-tested avatars that describes Minnesota Moses' post perfectly:
(http://henryharveybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/aaa-Old-Hippies.jpg)
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Yeah, ****in' HUGE turnout you asswipes had yesterday...
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2017/06/Crowd-Gathering-Truth-Photo-1-1024x346.png)
The line on any given day at the local Chik-fil-a is bigger.
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You are right dumpmonkey's it is not like the 60's, the other side is organizing to show up and kick your asses. :hammer: :hammer:
Bsaically we are tired of your baseless tantrums.