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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mr Mannn on June 04, 2017, 10:20:33 AM
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Docbroke (8,972 posts)
California should build its own nukes
Just in case.....
Doc has not taken the November loss well. Its turned him into an internet tough guy.
Da Mannn (13,643 posts)
2. Why? Who are they going to nuke? Liberals can live in peace with everyone
It was Liberals who told us we could win the cold war by dismantling our nuclear deterrent showing we were no threat to anyone. Liberals say nukes are bad. why are they good in this case?
are you advocating nuclear war with anyone?
Docbroke (8,972 posts)
3. Hopefully no one
But a check is needed against potential trump actions...
Crazy D (9,426 posts)
8. So, your advocating private (in this case the State of California) build nuclear weapons
As a prelude to a potential civil war with the elected by the US Constitution president of the United States.
Liberals love to scream the word treason, this is that plus terrorism.......
FYI......La La Land would become trinitite if it were to launch nukes against the USA......glazed parking lot
Da Mannn (13,643 posts)
18. Yep, Doc is advocating treason.
the liberal tantrum continues
Oldgeezer (771 posts)
9. They don't have the LEGAL authority to do it.
ocbroke (8,972 posts)
10. #2A
If trump doesn't like it, too bad.
I814U2CY (9,258 posts)
17. They aren't even competent enough to build high speed rail.
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ocbroke (8,972 posts)
10. #2A
If trump doesn't like it, too bad.
Second Amendment?!?!?!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
They're simply insane infants. (duh)
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There's nothing like the smell of burnt-out brain cells in the morning.
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Probably more likely to build and maintain a nuclear arsenal than being able to pay for and implement single payer.
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Docbroke (8,972 posts)
California should build its own nukes
Just in case.....
(http://blog.nelsonjameson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/fruitcake.jpg)
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Doc is one of those that supposes himself profound but in reality is just a retard.
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Docbroke (8,972 posts)
California should build its own nukes
Just in case.....
Yeah Right
:urmeds:
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Yep! Gov. Moonbeam is already asking Trump for a $100 billion grant to fund this.
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They don't need nukes. There's enough fruits and nuts to suffice.
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Californistan would basically have no defense establishment because they couldn't afford one. Their defense would actually rely on a huge ocean, being mostly surrounded by a benign USA, and having a tiny border with Mexico which is in no shape for direct foreign military adventures. Economically, while there is a lot of defense industry in Cali, it would collapse immediately after the secession because it wouldn't have any more US Government contracts, and Moonbeam and his successors sure as Hell aren't going to be making and foreign military sales with proprietary classified US technology they won't be able to access anymore.
Fun fact, National Guard organizations in the States depend on the Federal government for about 80% of their annual budget, so what little native military organization they have would collapse to a tiny cadre of guys that would end up being used as forest fire fighters, overworked riotbusters, and big SWAT team.
The cost of California's social programs - free college, their public employee retirement system, and single-payer medical care for instance - combined with the cost of maintaining their massive infrastructure and loss of revenue from Federal contracts and the loss of untaxed access to the remaining 49 States, is a recipe for turning the whole place into a northern extension of the Mexican Province of Baja California Norte.
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A couple of examples of DAT's point:
Back when I moved into Silicon Valley, the largest employer was Lockheed, a defense company. With decades, mergers, and moves - and growth of companies like Apple - that is no longer the case. Much Lockheed business has moved to other states. Lockheed-Martin has facilities all over the country. Much of what remains is stuff difficult to move (e.g. products whose contracts mandate the finished product be delivered by military transport).
My first job in Silicon Valley was with a defense company that made panel displays and HUDs for military aircraft. Chances are, there are HUDs flying around in A-10s that I helped test in the late 1970s. Back in the late 80s or early 90s - long after I moved on - the company was bought by another, much larger defense company, and 10 or 15 years later moved out of Silicon Valley to ... guess what state.
My previous employer is also, mostly, a defense company. The division in which I worked had been in San Carlos since the 1930s. Early last year the company decided that recruiting good technical and managerial talent had gotten too difficult. In practical terms, they realized that telling prospective employees from outside the Bay Area, "Oh, by the way, if you want to buy a house, plan on living 2 hours away. Because you may never be able to afford a house in Silicon Valley, the East Bay, or on the SF Peninsula." So they set in motion an 18-month move of product lines to PA and SoCal. SoCal is still expensive, but not as bad, and the facility into which they were moving certain products was space-qualified. Chances are, if CA went independent that company would move out, "fast", and either say, "Screw NASA," or get significant $$ help qualifying another facility for NASA work. That company is north of $16B a year, all told, so they have facilities all over the US.
While the progress of the "single-payer" insanity brings my opinion into question, I still think CA's legislature and Moonbeam/Nuisance understand that going independent would be disastrous insanity. IIRC, the first attempt to qualify and California Independence ballot initiative crumbled due to internal strife. I also doubt CA voters are stupid enough - even though they voted overwhelmingly for Hillary - to vote for secession.
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Docbroke (8,972 posts)
California should build its own nukes
Just in case.....
Thank you, Mr. Reagan. Peace through strength.
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Nature is going to "nuke" the west coast a lot sooner than those on the left coast think.
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Docbloke has always been an idiot, unfortunately for the libs, he's one of their more sane posters at DU jr.
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They just go from one pipedream to the next. He just says Cali should build nukes because....Trump? He just expects the federal government to sit back while they do it?