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Offshore drilling: Top Ten Reasons it's a BAD idea:
From Greenpeace:
Gas prices have been jumping over and under the $4 mark all summer, your grocery bills are soaring, and campaign ads are blasting you about the benefits of offshore drilling. So what's an average Joe or Jane supposed to believe? Will offshore drilling really make things better for you?
What you're hearing on the news is pretty one-sided, and most reporters are talking about this issue like it makes perfect sense. Well, it doesn't.
What can I say, sometimes dumb ideas get a lot of attention. That's exactly what's happening right now as President Bush has lifted the executive moratorium on offshore drilling, and Congress is being pushed to do the same.
Let me take just a second to review the top 10 reasons offshore drilling is such a dumb idea:
10. Offshore oil drilling won't impact gas prices today, and it won't have a significant impact on gas prices in the future.
9. This is nothing more than a money grab by the oil companies - who are already making record-breaking profits.
8. We burn 25% of the world's oil here in the U.S., but we have only 3% of the world's oil reserves. So even if all offshore oil magically came to market today, the vast majority of our oil would continue to be imported, and we wouldn't see price relief at the pump.
7. The current moratorium was put in place decades ago to protect us from the danger of oil spills along our coastlines and beaches.
6. Burning fossil fuels like oil causes global warming, which causes stronger hurricanes, which will threaten the very offshore drilling rigs being proposed, which will contribute to even more global warming.
5. To avoid the worst impacts of global warming, we need to switch from fossil fuels to renewable energy within the next 10 years. The billions of dollars that would be spent on offshore oil drilling just postpones the inevitable transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy.
4. Oil exploration requires massive seismic testing - which threatens whales and dolphins.
3. Oil prices are set on the global oil market, so American oil is no cheaper than Saudi oil. We won't get a discount for oil drilled in the U.S.
2. We can't solve the world's energy problems with the same drilling that created them.
1. Renewable energy is available now, so it's time to walk away from fossil fuels and toward a clean energy future.
Take Action >> make sure Congress hears from YOU about offshore oil drilling.
Let's face it, there's really no good reason to drill offshore. More drilling is good for Big Oil, not for you and your family. We can't drill our way out of this mess - oil drilling is already at an all-time high and prices are still skyrocketing.
As a matter of fact, even if we could tap into all of the energy stored in the Earth's reserves - coal, oil, and natural gas - it would equal the energy in just 20 days of sunshine. Tell Congress to look on the bright side to solve our energy crisis. It's time to invest in renewable energy and leave oil to the dinosaurs. It's time for an energy revolution.
Take action HERE: http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start/206 /
Power to the people,
Melanie Duchin
Global Warming Campaigner
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3792100
10 : Even the threat of an increaces supply of oil can have a immediate and direct impact on the price of oil. Supply / Demand and all that.
9 : blah blah anti-capitalist gibberish
8 : Supply / Demand, see #10.
7 : OHNOZ Teh Sky is falling. Global Oil spills everywhere...
6 : I Call BS. Provide Proof.
5 : Ignoring the whole "global warming" scam, there is no "renewable" energy source existing , or even theorized that would meet the demand of an industrial 1st world nation.
4 : Point being ?
3 : See #10,#8 , not worth addressing.
2 : not worth addressing.
1 : No. There is no viable alternative energy available that will even come close to meeting the requirements, except nuclear and we all know how much you greenies HATE the "N" word.
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9. This is nothing more than a money grab by the oil companies - who are already making record-breaking profits.
...and paying record-breaking taxes.
8. We burn 25% of the world's oil here in the U.S., but we have only 3% of the world's oil reserves. So even if all offshore oil magically came to market today, the vast majority of our oil would continue to be imported, and we wouldn't see price relief at the pump.
The US has enough oil for our own use for 125 years. That 3% is enough for now.
5. To avoid the worst impacts of global warming, we need to switch from fossil fuels to renewable energy within the next 10 years. The billions of dollars that would be spent on offshore oil drilling just postpones the inevitable transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy.
There is no energy source that is renewable for you nuts. Wind energy...the propellers mess up the local environment. Ethanol...it may raise food prices (highly doubtful, as the remains of the corn makes cattle feed.) Solar...wouldn't all those little black solar collectors put an awful lot of warming into the environment? And the batteries to store that energy require metals that are very toxic!! :o
4. Oil exploration requires massive seismic testing - which threatens whales and dolphins.
Well, now, that is an excellent reason to continue to allow energy and food prices to rise...better to get rid of poor people instead of possibly threatening whales and dolphins.
1. Renewable energy is available now, so it's time to walk away from fossil fuels and toward a clean energy future.
Even if we do WALK, we'll need more food to eat in order to have the energy to walk the distances we now drive. Humans are probably harder on the environment than cars...we produce a lot of methane, too. :-)
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10. Offshore oil drilling won't impact gas prices today, and it won't have a significant impact on gas prices in the future.
Yes, the energy gnomes will magically provide an entire alternative energy infracture using their phantasmagorical time machine to power us up as of yesterday.
9. This is nothing more than a money grab by the oil companies - who are already making record-breaking profits.
As opposed to the record-setting big-government money-grab WE prefer.
8. We burn 25% of the world's oil here in the U.S., but we have only 3% of the world's oil reserves. So even if all offshore oil magically came to market today, the vast majority of our oil would continue to be imported, and we wouldn't see price relief at the pump.
What we're not telling is that 3% of the world's oil reserves could power 100% of tyhe world's demand at $20 a barrel because incomparable statistics are an inconvenient truth.
7. The current moratorium was put in place decades ago to protect us from the danger of oil spills along our coastlines and beaches.
And we all know technology hasn't advanced at all.
No, really!
6. Burning fossil fuels like oil causes global warming, which causes stronger hurricanes, which will threaten the very offshore drilling rigs being proposed, which will contribute to even more global warming.
At least that's what the pamphlet says.
5. To avoid the worst impacts of global warming, we need to switch from fossil fuels to renewable energy within the next 10 years. The billions of dollars that would be spent on offshore oil drilling just postpones the inevitable transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy.
Just give us the money and the power and everything will be OK.
4. Oil exploration requires massive seismic testing - which threatens whales and dolphins.
And they're so cute. They're like our retarded step-cousins of the sea; always smiling and playing and stuff.
3. Oil prices are set on the global oil market, so American oil is no cheaper than Saudi oil. We won't get a discount for oil drilled in the U.S.
Besides it's better that the Wahabbist supporting Saudis who don't even have the technical knowledge or physical stamina to drill for their own oil without foreign workers deserve the money more than all those US oil companies because would only do stupid stuff like pay the exhorbitant taxes and employ US citizens.
****ing bastards!
2. We can't solve the world's energy problems with the same drilling that created them.
Just like a shortage of healthcare could never be solved by training more doctors and opening more hospitals.
Oh...wait...
1. Renewable energy is available now, so it's time to walk away from fossil fuels and toward a clean energy future.
And by Gaia, when we ban fossil fuels we do mean "WALK away."
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If these people believe this technology exists, why don't they form their own company and bring it to market?
I've found this question to be very useful.
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If Greenpeace says it is so, I naturally think the opposite.
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10. Offshore oil drilling won't impact gas prices today, and it won't have a significant impact on gas prices in the future.
Yes, the energy gnomes will magically provide an entire alternative energy infracture using their phantasmagorical time machine to power us up as of yesterday.
9. This is nothing more than a money grab by the oil companies - who are already making record-breaking profits.
As opposed to the record-setting big-government money-grab WE prefer.
8. We burn 25% of the world's oil here in the U.S., but we have only 3% of the world's oil reserves. So even if all offshore oil magically came to market today, the vast majority of our oil would continue to be imported, and we wouldn't see price relief at the pump.
What we're not telling is that 3% of the world's oil reserves could power 100% of tyhe world's demand at $20 a barrel because incomparable statistics are an inconvenient truth.
7. The current moratorium was put in place decades ago to protect us from the danger of oil spills along our coastlines and beaches.
And we all know technology hasn't advanced at all.
No, really!
6. Burning fossil fuels like oil causes global warming, which causes stronger hurricanes, which will threaten the very offshore drilling rigs being proposed, which will contribute to even more global warming.
At least that's what the pamphlet says.
5. To avoid the worst impacts of global warming, we need to switch from fossil fuels to renewable energy within the next 10 years. The billions of dollars that would be spent on offshore oil drilling just postpones the inevitable transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy.
Just give us the money and the power and everything will be OK.
4. Oil exploration requires massive seismic testing - which threatens whales and dolphins.
And they're so cute. They're like our retarded step-cousins of the sea; always smiling and playing and stuff.
3. Oil prices are set on the global oil market, so American oil is no cheaper than Saudi oil. We won't get a discount for oil drilled in the U.S.
Besides it's better that the Wahabbist supporting Saudis who don't even have the technical knowledge or physical stamina to drill for their own oil without foreign workers deserve the money more than all those US oil companies because would only do stupid stuff like pay the exhorbitant taxes and employ US citizens.
****ing bastards!
2. We can't solve the world's energy problems with the same drilling that created them.
Just like a shortage of healthcare could never be solved by training more doctors and opening more hospitals.
Oh...wait...
1. Renewable energy is available now, so it's time to walk away from fossil fuels and toward a clean energy future.
And by Gaia, when we ban fossil fuels we do mean "WALK away."
Oh, that was too funny!!! H5!
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Tomorrow, I am going to wave my magic wand and get rid of all these products.
Ammonia, Anesthetics, Antihistamines, Artificial limbs, Artificial Turf, Antiseptics, Aspirin, Auto Parts, Awnings, Balloons, Ballpoint pens, Bandages, Beach Umbrellas, Boats, Cameras, Candles, Carbon fibers, Car Battery Cases, Carpets, Caulking, Combs, Cortisones, Cosmetics, Crayons, Credit Cards, Curtains, Deodorants, Detergents, Dice, Disposable Diapers, Dolls, Dyes, Eye Glasses, Electrical Wiring Insulation, Faucet Washers, Fishing Rods, Fishing Line, Fishing Lures, Food Preservatives, Food Packaging, Garden Hose, Glue, Hair Coloring, Hair Curlers, Hand Lotion, Hearing Aids, Heart Valves, Ink, Heating oil, Insect Repellant, Insecticides, Linoleum, Lip Stick, Milk Jugs, Nail Polish, Oil Filters, Panty Hose, Perfume, Petroleum Jelly, Rubber Cement, Rubbing Alcohol, Shampoo, Shaving Cream, Shoes, Toothpaste, Trash Bags, Upholstery, Vitamin Capsules, Water Pipes, Yarn, and thousands of other items.
Pelosi and Reid claim it is their destiny to wean America from the evils of oil.
Nearly everything in our lives is made from oil, made by machinery and systems dependent on oil, and transported by oil as either gas or diesel fuel. Without it there would be no electronics, pneumatic, or hydraulic industries and food production would drop seventy-five percent..
If every car on the planet was converted to some other fuel, we would still be searching around the world for every drop of oil we could find. We would still need off shore drilling to supply all those products above. We can’t even build a bicycle without oil, let alone a car.
The problem is every barrel of oil contains between 20 to 30 percent gasoline, and another 10 percent diesel. It is actually a waste byproduct, produced by the distillation and cracking process. If we stop using gasoline, where in the hell would we put all that gas? We would simple have to burn it in the atmosphere, the way we do methane now.
We are at least one hundred years away before science can replace oil. Oil has made life on this planet more comfortable, brought relief from disease and famine, and increased man’s life span and health.
This winter seniors who can’t afford the high price of heating fuel, will die cold and alone, and Pelosi and Reid, will call that a victory for the planet..
We should all think of the environment in a reasonable manner, but what if there was no oil.
“ What now remains of the formerly rich land is like the skeleton of a sick man. . . . Formerly, many of the mountains were arable. The plains that were full of rich soil are now marshes. Hills that were once covered with forests and produced abundant pasture now produce only food for bees. Once the land was enriched by yearly rains, which were not lost, as they are now, by flowing from the bare land into the sea. The soil was deep, it absorbed and kept the water in loamy soil, and the water that soaked into the hills fed springs and running streams everywhere. Now the abandoned shrines at spots where formerly there were springs attest that our description of the land is true. “
Plato wrote this of his country's farmlands and the effect of wheat- - 2200 years before oil was discovered.
Man doesn’t need oil to destroy the world, he can pretty much do that bare handed.
To get rid of oil completely, we will need replacements for LPG, Gasoline, Jet Fuel, Diesel Fuel, Lpg Gasoline, Industrial Fuel, Asphalt base, and all those little End Products that make life so pleasant here on earth. Science has a long way to go before replacing all of those.
I think I’ll just put that old magic wand back in the drawer until we learn to pay more attention to history.
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The plastic bag cheetos are packaged in is a petroleum based product.
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The plastic bag cheetos are packaged in is a petroleum based product.
Not only that, but their computer keyboards are made from petroleum products, too.
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The plastic bag cheetos are packaged in is a petroleum based product.
Not only that, but their computer keyboards are made from petroleum products, too.
Shhhhhhh! Don't tell the DUmmies. Just let products (and gummint checks) produced from oil dry up and see who screams the loudest.
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Tomorrow, I am going to wave my magic wand and get rid of all these products.
Ammonia, Anesthetics, Antihistamines, Artificial limbs, Artificial Turf, Antiseptics, Aspirin, Auto Parts, Awnings, Balloons, Ballpoint pens, Bandages, Beach Umbrellas, Boats, Cameras, Candles, Carbon fibers, Car Battery Cases, Carpets, Caulking, Combs, Cortisones, Cosmetics, Crayons, Credit Cards, Curtains, Deodorants, Detergents, Dice, Disposable Diapers, Dolls, Dyes, Eye Glasses, Electrical Wiring Insulation, Faucet Washers, Fishing Rods, Fishing Line, Fishing Lures, Food Preservatives, Food Packaging, Garden Hose, Glue, Hair Coloring, Hair Curlers, Hand Lotion, Hearing Aids, Heart Valves, Ink, Heating oil, Insect Repellant, Insecticides, Linoleum, Lip Stick, Milk Jugs, Nail Polish, Oil Filters, Panty Hose, Perfume, Petroleum Jelly, Rubber Cement, Rubbing Alcohol, Shampoo, Shaving Cream, Shoes, Toothpaste, Trash Bags, Upholstery, Vitamin Capsules, Water Pipes, Yarn, and thousands of other items.
Pelosi and Reid claim it is their destiny to wean America from the evils of oil.
Nearly everything in our lives is made from oil, made by machinery and systems dependent on oil, and transported by oil as either gas or diesel fuel. Without it there would be no electronics, pneumatic, or hydraulic industries and food production would drop seventy-five percent..
If every car on the planet was converted to some other fuel, we would still be searching around the world for every drop of oil we could find. We would still need off shore drilling to supply all those products above. We can’t even build a bicycle without oil, let alone a car.
The problem is every barrel of oil contains between 20 to 30 percent gasoline, and another 10 percent diesel. It is actually a waste byproduct, produced by the distillation and cracking process. If we stop using gasoline, where in the hell would we put all that gas? We would simple have to burn it in the atmosphere, the way we do methane now.
We are at least one hundred years away before science can replace oil. Oil has made life on this planet more comfortable, brought relief from disease and famine, and increased man’s life span and health.
This winter seniors who can’t afford the high price of heating fuel, will die cold and alone, and Pelosi and Reid, will call that a victory for the planet..
We should all think of the environment in a reasonable manner, but what if there was no oil.
“ What now remains of the formerly rich land is like the skeleton of a sick man. . . . Formerly, many of the mountains were arable. The plains that were full of rich soil are now marshes. Hills that were once covered with forests and produced abundant pasture now produce only food for bees. Once the land was enriched by yearly rains, which were not lost, as they are now, by flowing from the bare land into the sea. The soil was deep, it absorbed and kept the water in loamy soil, and the water that soaked into the hills fed springs and running streams everywhere. Now the abandoned shrines at spots where formerly there were springs attest that our description of the land is true. “
Plato wrote this of his country's farmlands and the effect of wheat- - 2200 years before oil was discovered.
Man doesn’t need oil to destroy the world, he can pretty much do that bare handed.
To get rid of oil completely, we will need replacements for LPG, Gasoline, Jet Fuel, Diesel Fuel, Lpg Gasoline, Industrial Fuel, Asphalt base, and all those little End Products that make life so pleasant here on earth. Science has a long way to go before replacing all of those.
I think I’ll just put that old magic wand back in the drawer until we learn to pay more attention to history.
This is a good post. It is important to emphasize that the greatest byproduct of oil is vibrant capitalism. You have done that well.
The next issue that needs to be addressed is that all the environmental hysteria about oil is a tool to force the destruction of capitalism, which is really all it is about. The goal of socialism is to kill capitalism forever. Nothing more and nothing less.
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"I saw someone characterize our profits the other day in terms of $1,400 in profit per second. Well, they also need to understand we paid $4,000 a second in taxes, and we spent $15,000 a second in cost," Tillerson told ABC News' Charles Gibson. "We spend $1 billion a day just running our business. So this is a business where large numbers are just characteristic of it."
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5574568&page=1
'Bout time these oil guys starts showing some balls.
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There's so many redundancy's in that list that it should be retitled "Top three reasons......"
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I'll bet if there was a Democrat Congress and President in January, and 70% of the populace still wanted drilling, it would suddenly become a really good idea (DU would still hate it, of course, but they would rationalize their way into blaming Fox News and the Republican Congressional minority for it).
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Take action HERE: http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start/206 /
Power to the people,
Melanie Duchin
Global Warming Campaigner
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/Servonaut/dirtyhippie.jpg)
Yuck
and she's a hippie too.
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Take action HERE: http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start/206 /
Power to the people,
Melanie Duchin
Global Warming Campaigner
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/Servonaut/dirtyhippie.jpg)
Yuck
and she's a hippie too.
She's a man , Baby :o
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Take action HERE: http://members.greenpeace.org/action/start/206 /
Power to the people,
Melanie Duchin
Global Warming Campaigner
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/Servonaut/dirtyhippie.jpg)
Yuck
and she's a hippie too.
I love the scene in Armageddon where Bruce Willis was hitting golf balls into the Green Peace ship. It looks like she was there and forgot to duck. :-)