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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on May 26, 2017, 02:01:19 PM
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Star Member La Lioness Priyanka (53,327 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/118761349
Any suggestion that we should engage more black people and POC, instead of chasing after the WWC
and without fail, people act as though what you are saying is 'throw out all the whites from the party'
I wonder why.
this is a follow-up to LLP's screed on why white people can't help the DEMs. She wonders why white people on DU may think she's being racist. btw. WWC = White Working Class
bettyellen (41,471 posts)
1. They instinctively know it will alienate some people they know....
And they have no idea how to address the "cultural anxiety" and would like it to just go away. So let's do nothing to aggravate the bigots.
Star Member La Lioness Priyanka (53,327 posts)
5. i didn't answer you because your post was long and i needed time for a lengthy response.
so here are the few things
1. The real white poor voted for clinton, the people we call WWC are not really poor whites. There is data showing that Clinton won among whites who were actually economically anxious not culturally anxious.
i can find that for you, if you'd like.
2. There were things that went against Clinton that were insane and unlikely to happen again (FBI director intervening, Russian interference). These things happened to her and her only, but did not happen to Quist.
Plus, DJT has been in power, and that changes dynamic (typically the party of the president starts losing power)
3. I believe that supporting economically progressive values would help the white poor as much as the black poor, hence i am not articulating a message of economic conservatism.
4. i am saying that you need to prioritize people who can be easily moved, instead of trying to chase people who don't want you.
Star Member The Polack MSgt (1,399 posts)
4. The idea that the Democratic Party should chase a group of people That has been consistently hostile to the ideals and moral underpinnings of this party is ridiculous on its face.
Working class white men are already welcome. I'm here - Hi everybody - and I don't feel any pressure to leave just because there are POC and women here as well.
But the people who voted for 45 have shown who and what they are. We should never change who we are to accommodate them, when (if) they realize what the Trump Party truly is - well they can change their priorities and come on over.
We cannot, must not ignore the interests of the people who are the core and strength of our party.
And to be clear, the spine of our party is NOT white working class straight men, it is the other 75% of America.
WellDarn (210 posts)
7. The other 75%?
A majority of working class people VOTED FOR HILLARY. A majority of working class people have almost always voted for Drmocrats. A huge chunk of that "other 75%" you are talking about consists of the upper middle class white women and men who abandoned Obama and who abandoned Hillary almost solely over issues of race and class.
Yes- almost everyone voted for Hillary.
:whatever:
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Weird thought...
Maybe you're losing because you keep dividing Americans who just want to feed their families.
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Is that you Tom Perez?
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The majority of white people will pick the sociopathic policies of the GOP. The faster we get over our obsessions with the WWC and focus on engaging in communities of color and trying to get POC to vote, the faster we can start winning elections again.
From your keyboard to the DNC's monitors, LLP. The longer the Ds follow your racist F#$%-the-white-people "logic" the more they'll lose elections. Especially if they also follow F#$%-the-Christians "logic", of which I'm sure you'll approve.