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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on May 23, 2017, 09:10:05 PM
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Star Member DonViejo (27,402 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141781826
In wake of Manchester blast, Trump decries terrorist 'losers'
Oh, you know the leftists are gonna hate that. A strong response to a terror attack?
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Star Member truthisfreedom (19,862 posts)
1. Our apologies to Manchester.
He's still using his language training wheels.
I heard he toned it down from " evil ****ing pieces of shit" :bird:
IronLionZion (17,550 posts)
4. Trump should have a travel ban on anyone who has a parent who was born in the UK
and then we can't let Trump back in our country until we can figure this all out. It's for national security reasons.
The last London terror attack was from a British-born asshole who had Christian parents. The fact that he was born 50 years ago led many RWers to say that assimilation is hopeless and we need to remove people who were born here.
He did have christian parents. He converted to islam and became radicalized in a British Mosque and then killed innocent people.
Yeah- it's not the color of their skin, you retards. it's their murderous religion.
Archae (38,047 posts)
11. In this case for a change he's right, calling them "losers."
They are.
Whenever I see a background of a typical ISIS member, alive or dead, they are unemployed or badly underemployed, working a shit job and have a criminal record for rinky-dink crimes like fighting in a bar or vandalism.
Oh, dear... that post will get scrubbed soon.
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They are.
'[Conventional] War is a continuation of policy by other means,' as Clauswitz notably wrote, but a means used when the aggressor has determined that he is not succeeding at gaining his policy ends by less catastrophic means;
Guerrilla was is a continuation of conventional warfare by other means when conventional warfare has failed or the actor lacks the capability to pursue it any further;
Terrorism is a continuation of guerrilla warfare by other means when the actor is so outmatched and beaten that guerrilla or partisan warfare has failed and is now beyond his means.
It is a last resort after losing at everything else.
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They are indeed losers. and pitiful cowards. Trump was humiliating and calling out the bomber's ISIS buddies by calling them that.
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Terrorism is a continuation of guerrilla warfare by other means when the actor is so outmatched and beaten that guerrilla or partisan warfare has failed and is now beyond his means.
It is a last resort after losing at everything else.
Then it seems the only reason the continue is a lack of will on the part of our leaders (and outright sympathy from the left).
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Since DU-folk dislike Trump calling terrorists "Losers", what would DU-folk prefer? Surrendering to the terrorists, calling them "Winners". Ignoring the terrorists and letting them knife, run down, and bomb people at will?
DU-folk would have cheered, :hi5: ed, and :cheersmate: ed Obama had he said the very same thing. It's not the term "Losers" that they object to, but that Trump said it.
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Since DU-folk dislike Trump calling terrorists "Losers", what would DU-folk prefer? Surrendering to the terrorists, calling them "Winners". Ignoring the terrorists and letting them knife, run down, and bomb people at will?
DU-folk would have cheered, :hi5: ed, and :cheersmate: ed Obama had he said the very same thing. It's not the term "Losers" that they object to, but that Trump said it.
Also, because "Losers" hits too close to home for them . . . :whistling: :fuelfire:
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Since DU-folk dislike Trump calling terrorists "Losers", what would DU-folk prefer? Surrendering to the terrorists, calling them "Winners". Ignoring the terrorists and letting them knife, run down, and bomb people at will?
DU-folk would have cheered, :hi5: ed, and :cheersmate: ed Obama had he said the very same thing. It's not the term "Losers" that they object to, but that Trump said it.
Liberals, for some reason think that when the muzzies take over the United States and declare it a caliphate, the muzzies are going to embrace them and provide them with all of life's needs. They also think that about communists.
It's not dawned on them that they will be the very FIRST ones that get strung up by their intestines.
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Then it seems the only reason the continue is a lack of will on the part of our leaders (and outright sympathy from the left).
Well, it is a bit more complicated than that, because each level is more decentralized than the one before it. Conventional war gets out of the span of control of the Chief Executives policy circle and events devolve to the operational military leadership. Guerrilla or partisan war is conducted by units that may be called battalions or brigades but are loosely organized company-sized units pursuing more of a general goal on their own initiative than getting direct policy commands under strict control from a central authority (No matter what their nominal overarching authority may think). Terrorists act in cells, at a level of organization even lower than partisans, and there is no central authority whose destruction will stop them. Whether they are more more motivated by some major policy end (World Communism, annihilation of Israel, an independent Israel, making an occupying force's life unbearable, establishment of the Caliphate, eviction of the UK from Eire) or mere hatred and bigotry (Tutus/Hutsis, hatred of Jews, hatred of Hindus, racial hatred, whatever) really isn't material, the point is that the feelings run high enough to fuel something so decentralized that it comes close to the 'Leaderless resistance' concept. The only real way to defeat it is to both operate against the terrorists so successfully that they perceive their chance of success as quite remote, and at the same time incentivize cooperation so that the religious, ethnic, or tribal population from which the terrorists come discourages support of their objective, which means assimilation in one form or another is key to ending them.
Now the problem with assimilation is that the children of the successfully assimilated tend to get sucked back into the victim culture that their parents have worked their way out of, since the children never had that struggle and and earned the reward they enjoy, and so a certain percentage of them are vulnerable to that appeal.
The leadership's will to both destroy the active enemy and assimilate the peaceful population into your own socioeconomic paradigm is crucial to success. Europe and the US have done pretty well at the destroying part, despite some notable terrorist successes, but the whole multi-culti romantic idea has totally sabotaged the assimilation part.
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Liberals, for some reason think that when the muzzies take over the United States and declare it a caliphate, the muzzies are going to embrace them and provide them with all of life's needs. They also think that about communists.
It's not dawned on them that they will be the very FIRST ones that get strung up by their intestines.
Uh huh.
And it almost makes one hope they win, just for the joy of seeing the primitives hanging from lampposts.
Almost, not quite.
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Better to call them losers than to tell the citizens to get use to it as part of your everyday life like the loser Mayor of London. :mad: Also a much more preferred position to take vs. buying them a Pepsi or getting them a job.
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The Master Persuader has struck again. Th DUmbasses are just too stupid or indoctrinated to see that Trump has pegged them again.
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DUmmies still don't understand why the left keeps losing and Trump won. Plain spoken language works better than *****footing around with PC nonsense language.
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Well, it is a bit more complicated than that, because each level is more decentralized than the one before it. Conventional war gets out of the span of control of the Chief Executives policy circle and events devolve to the operational military leadership. Guerrilla or partisan war is conducted by units that may be called battalions or brigades but are loosely organized company-sized units pursuing more of a general goal on their own initiative than getting direct policy commands under strict control from a central authority (No matter what their nominal overarching authority may think). Terrorists act in cells, at a level of organization even lower than partisans, and there is no central authority whose destruction will stop them. Whether they are more more motivated by some major policy end (World Communism, annihilation of Israel, an independent Israel, making an occupying force's life unbearable, establishment of the Caliphate, eviction of the UK from Eire) or mere hatred and bigotry (Tutus/Hutsis, hatred of Jews, hatred of Hindus, racial hatred, whatever) really isn't material, the point is that the feelings run high enough to fuel something so decentralized that it comes close to the 'Leaderless resistance' concept. The only real way to defeat it is to both operate against the terrorists so successfully that they perceive their chance of success as quite remote, and at the same time incentivize cooperation so that the religious, ethnic, or tribal population from which the terrorists come discourages support of their objective, which means assimilation in one form or another is key to ending them.
Now the problem with assimilation is that the children of the successfully assimilated tend to get sucked back into the victim culture that their parents have worked their way out of, since the children never had that struggle and and earned the reward they enjoy, and so a certain percentage of them are vulnerable to that appeal.
The leadership's will to both destroy the active enemy and assimilate the peaceful population into your own socioeconomic paradigm is crucial to success. Europe and the US have done pretty well at the destroying part, despite some notable terrorist successes, but the whole multi-culti romantic idea has totally sabotaged the assimilation part.
Great post, DAT! :cheersmate:
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Great post, DAT! :cheersmate:
Thanks Ralph, I'm always leery of just getting the TL:DR label when I post something thorough or complex, it's very rewarding to know it's actually appreciated.
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Liberals, for some reason think that when the muzzies take over the United States and declare it a caliphate, the muzzies are going to embrace them and provide them with all of life's needs. They also think that about communists.
It's not dawned on them that they will be the very FIRST ones that get strung up by their intestines.
That what I am thinking too.
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Thanks Ralph, I'm always leery of just getting the TL:DR label when I post something thorough or complex, it's very rewarding to know it's actually appreciated.
If it's written by you, it is.
Everybody knows Tanker chooses his words with care and precision, and every single one is important, relevant.