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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on August 13, 2008, 02:17:43 PM
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interesting internals at the link. with all of the coverage of the dem primary, there is a chance that obama has
completely wrung all of the support out of his base that he is going to get. everyone in the party has heard of
him, and all that remains are the bitter-enders and the hard core hillaryites, whereas the republican base never
really liked mccain much to begin with, but are gradually climbing on board (and coming to their senses).
Presidential Race Draws Even
GOP Base Getting Behind McCain
With less than two weeks to go before the start of the presidential nominating conventions, Barack Obama's lead over John McCain has disappeared. Pew's latest survey finds 46% of registered voters saying they favor or lean to the putative Democratic candidate, while 43% back his likely Republican rival. In late June, Obama held a comfortable 48%-to-40% margin over McCain, which narrowed in mid-July to 47% to 42%.
Two factors appear to be at play in shifting voter sentiment. First, McCain is garnering more support from his base - including Republicans and white evangelical Protestants - than he was in June, and he also has steadily gained backing from white working class voters over this period. Secondly and more generally, the Arizona senator has made gains on his leadership image. An even greater percentage of voters than in June now see McCain as the candidate who would use the best judgment in a crisis, and an increasing percentage see him as the candidate who can get things done.
Conversely, Obama has made little progress in increasing his support among core Democrats since June - currently 83% favor him compared with 87% of Republicans who back McCain. The likely Democratic nominee is still getting relatively modest support from Hillary Clinton's former supporters: 72% of them support Obama, compared with the 88% support level that McCain receives from backers of his formal GOP rivals. Obama's strong points with voters are in being seen as the candidate with new ideas and as someone who connects well with ordinary people.
The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, was conducted by telephone - both landline phones and cell phones - from July 31-August 10 among 2,414 registered voters. It finds that race, gender and age are strong drivers of support in a closely divided electorate. Almost nine-in-ten African American voters (88%) back Obama, while McCain leads 51% to 39% among whites. Since June, McCain has gained support among men who now favor him by a 49%-to-41% margin. In contrast, women favor Obama by a roughly comparable margin of 51% to 38%. The Democratic candidate holds a 24 percentage-point lead over his rival among voters younger than age 30, whereas voters over age 50 are more evenly split (47% McCain, 42% Obama).
While Sen. McCain is attracting more support from Republicans than Sen. Obama is from Democrats, McCain's backers continue to be less enthusiastic about him than are Obama supporters about their candidate. Fewer than half of McCain's backers (39%) describe themselves as strong supporters of the Arizona senator, compared with 58% of Obama backers who say they support Obama strongly. The McCain supporters who back him "only moderately" are most troubled by his positions on economic issues, while Obama's soft supporters are most troubled by his personal abilities and experience.
More (http://people-press.org/report/443/presidential-race-draws-even)
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Wasn't John (did you know he served in Vietnam?) Kerry up by like 15 at this point in 2004?
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strong / weak.... the lever doesn't care.
its where the mushy middle is headed that matters.
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Wasn't John (did you know he served in Vietnam?) Kerry up by like 15 at this point in 2004?
yup. the kid is doomed unless McC dies. then its a toss up.
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Wasn't John (did you know he served in Vietnam?) Kerry up by like 15 at this point in 2004?
yeah, something like that, and certainly by that much after his convention. I am beginning to wonder if this gigantic outdoor obamagasm that the the dems are planning at the convention is going to go over as poorly as the big berlin speech . . . .
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Wasn't John (did you know he served in Vietnam?) Kerry up by like 15 at this point in 2004?
yeah, something like that, and certainly by that much after his convention. I am beginning to wonder if this gigantic outdoor obamagasm that the the dems are planning at the convention is going to go over as poorly as the big berlin speech . . . .
maybe the Dixie Twits will play the gig...
maybe it will rain
or snow
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Wasn't John (did you know he served in Vietnam?) Kerry up by like 15 at this point in 2004?
yeah, something like that, and certainly by that much after his convention. I am beginning to wonder if this gigantic outdoor obamagasm that the the dems are planning at the convention is going to go over as poorly as the big berlin speech . . . .
maybe the Dixie Twits will play the gig...
maybe it will rain
or snow
some organization posted a video that urged people to pray for rain in denver that night. I thought it (or the idea, anyway, since I didn't actually see it) was funny as hell. :-) they took it down after the obamians wrung their hands at it's nastiness. :whatever:
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some organization posted a video that urged people to pray for rain in denver that night. I thought it (or the idea, anyway, since I didn't actually see it) was funny as hell. :-) they took it down after the obamians wrung their hands at it's nastiness. :whatever:
I saw it as well. First thing I thought of when I heard the messiah wanted to have his sermon on the mount outdoors. It really was funny... rain, lightning, plagues of frogs, mayhem...
The party faithful have to be pretty hurt about this. They work all year every year to get that seat at the convention just for these speechs and the parties, it was an exclusive thing that was only for insiders. The parties are nixed due to money and now any tom dick or harry can see the main speech. And the food will suck too.