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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: I_B_Perky on May 15, 2017, 06:06:44 PM
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This is all due to this article from unnamed sources:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html)
Now we got many threads at the dump. Won't bring them over cause it is early so I'll just link:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067744 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067744)
Trump killing spies
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067742 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067742)
Israel the source... hypothetically , dummies all agog
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067675 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067675)
Madam45for2923 (3,046 posts)
3. Why would he do that, give away Israel's info?
grantcart (42,485 posts)
4. I believe that was a hypothetical illustration and not meant to be actual information
Oops!
mucifer (11,541 posts)
5. CBS tv news just really bashed trump for revealing classified intel.
CBS? :rotf:
Freethinker65 (1,240 posts)
6. Ok. I see a suspended overseas trip and an extensive golf stay at Mar a Lago in his future
Oh no!!!
Ilsa (43,509 posts)
8. He sold out Israel in less than 120 days?
He needs to be impeached now.
"NSA and CIA trying to clean up his mess." - CNN
So now dummies love them some Israelis.
global1 (16,108 posts)
13. Surely If It Is Israel.....
this will be the straw that broke the camel's back and the Repugs will start putting a lot of distance between themselves and Trump and we should be able to begin to see the wheels of impeachment start turning.
The jews gonna impeach Trump!!!
DemocratSinceBirth (80,518 posts)
14. I suspect when it comes to the M E the Mossad's intel is superb.
Wait... jews are good now?
NightWatcher (31,873 posts)
12. IF so, we can go purchase some celebratory champagne and allow Mossad to remedy the situation.
Mossad gonna take care of Trump. Dummies rejoice. Hillary put in office, dummies hate Israel. :mental:
charlyvi (5,973 posts)
15. Our allies will now withhold any intelligence from us.
They cannot trust us with intel; Trump* has now made it perfectly clear that the only fellow nation he respects is Russia. I wonder how much he owes them, or what type of kompromat they have. Or is he just that evil?
Rooskies!!!!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067672 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067672)
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berni_mccoy (19,976 posts)
The fact that current and former high ranking officials leaked this to WaPo says something.
It says they don't approve of the move and they want Trump to go down. Trump acted without any review any consultation. People on the inside are frightened and I see no way that his presidency survives this. The damage is so great to the Intel community that they will not tolerate him.
Oh the dreaded current and former officials!!! Trump is legs, this has toast, Mossad gonna remove Trump tonite!!!
Phoenix61 (1,647 posts)
1. I guess he figured he got away with
disrespecting the CIA and the FBI. Might as well go for broke and slam the NSA.
Might as well. You dummies hate the NSA... except for now.
Mr. Ected (2,970 posts)
4. The list of reasons to impeach has gotten pretty damned long
But until he gets a BJ in the Oval Office, he's probably in the clear.
Trump don't need no fat intern. He got a niiiice wife.
delisen (974 posts)
5. ..so a president is the new Robert Hanssen?
Robert Hanssen, of the FBI, was actually a spy for Russia who flourished for years inside the FBI under Louis Freeh without getting caught.
Information he gave to Russia got people killed.
Trump is a spy!!!!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067665 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067665)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067663 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067663)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067648 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067648)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067640 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067640)
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NightWatcher (31,876 posts)
IF HE TOLD THE RUSSIANS ANYTHING CLASSIFIED/CODE WORDED, HE GOES TO PRISON!!!
Sorry for the yelling but this is the worst thing a US President, or anyone in the know, can do to our country. If he shared intel, he needs to go directly to prison. No investigation, no Special Prosecutor. Straight to ******* federal ****ing prison.
Kick and rec this shit to show how serious this is. This isn't minor and this isn't ****ing around.
No trial, no evidence, just frog marched to the execution wall. It is the dummie way.
The Blue Flower (2,597 posts)
1. What's the IC's next move now?
I knew something atrocious happened at that meeting. He was taking care of business with his boss.
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Star Member NightWatcher (31,876 posts)
3. The IC is going to take him out of office one way or another.
IC?
busterbrown (6,308 posts)
4. In Theory Yes... In Reality?
Trump should have been disqualified from the presidency months ago..
I’m expecting some type of (Deflection) uneeded military action by Trump...Either North Korea, Syria,Somalia etc..
he’ll put his military play jacket and hat on to show the world how tough he is...
Trump gonna bomb... um someone.
Ilsa (43,512 posts)
5. It wasn't a criminal act, so no prison.
He has the right to be stupid.
napi21 (42,521 posts)
7. Unfortunately there will be no prison. "The Prez can classify or declassify anything at any time,
so no pumishment for him! The punishment will be the repercussions from the international community.
Wet blanket.
NightWatcher (31,876 posts)
9. Did he formally declassify or secretly share still classified information?
Well now that is the question isn't it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067267 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029067267)
This is a large bonfire:
OldHippieChick (1,494 posts)
11. It's not as if this is some fringe media source. I daresay other
news outlets are scrambling to verify and will be reporting very, very soon. Am anxious to watch Tweety tonite and I never watch him.
bathroommonkey76 (2,244 posts)
21. "its far worse than what has already been reported."
Buzzfeed is going past the WashPost's report and saying it is far worse!
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/trump-highly-classified-information-russians?utm_term=.hyGZRE0RAJ#.dqQYqRwqpr
Let's also not forget who was in the room with Trump- Kislyak, Lavrov, and THE RUSSIAN MEDIA. They probably have a video of Trump giving out the classified information!
DrDan (19,372 posts)
25. just reported on CNN - Wolf
and on MSNBC - Greta
Stuart G (13,895 posts)
10. Oh My...!!! Impeachable Offense
"President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said that Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State. "
Pretty clear to all ...............but remember this...we need only three republican senators to see
what is truth. We will see... much sooner rather than later...if the above is verified..
Impeachment!!!!
There is way more. That is all I will bring over.
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And the Canary Trap is set yet again.
(http://i.imgur.com/wNlF4zz.jpg)
Who knew this was going to be so much fun.
:popcorn:
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And the Canary Trap is set yet again.
Who knew this was going to be so much fun.
:popcorn:
That is what I was wondering about. President Trump is not stupid. Something tells me that the Washeduppost just may find themselves getting a subpoena for their source(s). There is precedence for this if it affects national security.
As for the ruskies... I can't see them blabbing about the source/spy to Isis. Would not put it past them... just can't see it.
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so Bezo's blog and the Clinton News Network (2 of the fakest fake news organizations) say Trump is legs. This has toast.
Trump is a Galactic Lord in trolling. Expect news cycle to go full spin then find out it is all bullshit.
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Thanks for admitting Hillary is a criminal.
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so Bezo's blog and the Clinton News Network (2 of the fakest fake news organizations) say Trump is legs. This has toast.
Trump is a Galactic Lord in trolling. Expect news cycle to go full spin then find out it is all bullshit.
Apparently CBS reported it tonite as well. Personally I think this is Trump going after the unnamed admin officials (leakers) and the Washpo. I would like nothing more than to see Bezo cooling his heels in a federal jail cell. That would be awesome. :cheersmate:
Edited to add:
Seems McMaster is denying it.
Link:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/15/trump-classified-russia-pushback-238415 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/15/trump-classified-russia-pushback-238415)
Excerpt:
National security adviser H.R. McMaster briefly spoke to reporters gathered at the White House and issued a terse denial without taking any questions. “The story that came out tonight as reported is false,” McMaster said.
"At no time, at no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known."
He concluded with, “I was in the room. It didn’t happen.”
"This story is false. The president only discussed the common threats that both countries faced," Powell said in the statement.
Then later in the Politico article it seems they are covering their ass:
While White House officials insisted Trump did not disclose intelligence sources or methods, the Post report did not say that he did. Instead, it said he described details of a specific threat, its potential for harm and where the threat was picked up.
The report quoted officials who said that information could have been enough to allow Russia to identify the U.S. ally involved or other details.
Oh this is just freaking great!
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What fools these DUmmies be.
BY DEFINITION, the POTUS is exempt from treason. He is the final arbiter as to what is or is not classified, what may or may not be shared with foreign governments, and under what circumstances.
Not that Trump did any such thing -- this is #37,987 of ELEBENDY!!! reasons why he will be frog marched our of the WH one day after the end of his second term.
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The report quoted officials who said that information could have been enough to allow Russia to identify the U.S. ally involved or other details.
If he said the info came from the Middle East it could be: Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Turkey. That would narrow it down. :whatever:
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Dems/libs - "The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!!"
Decent and civilized people - "Yeah. Whatever. :jerkit: "
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That is what I was wondering about. President Trump is not stupid. Something tells me that the Washeduppost just may find themselves getting a subpoena for their source(s). There is precedence for this if it affects national security.
As for the ruskies... I can't see them blabbing about the source/spy to Isis. Would not put it past them... just can't see it.
Learning more about this during the day today, I keep smelling "mole hunt."
If you think about it, it's a near-perfect honey-trap for the right person: it's got "teh RUSSIANS!!!!111!," it's got Trump allegedly doing something very, very wrong, it's got the seemingly (to a Leftist) perfect mirror to Hillary leaking a shit-ton of intel....
If I were on a mole hunt, this is damned near perfect. "Leak" intel that doesn't really matter (everyone has known about this laptop thing for months) in the highly-controlled environment of the Oval Office, get the Isrealis involved (arguably the best on earth at hunting moles), feign a bunch of indignation, let the media chew on it, then spring the trap on whoever the leak is.
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Learning more about this during the day today, I keep smelling "mole hunt."
If you think about it, it's a near-perfect honey-trap for the right person: it's got "teh RUSSIANS!!!!111!," it's got Trump allegedly doing something very, very wrong, it's got the seemingly (to a Leftist) perfect mirror to Hillary leaking a shit-ton of intel....
If I were on a mole hunt, this is damned near perfect. "Leak" intel that doesn't really matter (everyone has known about this laptop thing for months) in the highly-controlled environment of the Oval Office, get the Isrealis involved (arguably the best on earth at hunting moles), feign a bunch of indignation, let the media chew on it, then spring the trap on whoever the leak is.
I was thinking I had read somewhere that airlines were not letting laptops on flights.
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I was thinking I had read somewhere that airlines were not letting laptops on flights.
Being in the travel biz, I'm more attuned to this stuff, but it's hardly been any sort of secret: airlines have been under order to not allow laptops in cabin for flights coming from the Middle East and northern Africa since about November, and they upped that to pretty much all of Europe about a month ago. This has been in published news reports, not some sort of obscure trade journal or something.
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Well, well, well. I think President Trump just sprung the trap. Seems there is going to be a special prosecutor for the rooskie probe.
Politico article:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/justice-dept-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-for-russia-probe-238524 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/justice-dept-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-for-russia-probe-238524)
Something tells me that this is gonna end up the same as the last special prosecutor which resulted in Fitzmas.
Muellermas is on the way folks in 24 business hours!!!! :yahoo:
Dummies gonna love them some Mueller! Until they hate him.
Check out the comments. I think they are all dummies.
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Well, well, well. I think President Trump just sprung the trap. Seems there is going to be a special prosecutor for the rooskie probe.
Politico article:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/justice-dept-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-for-russia-probe-238524 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/justice-dept-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-for-russia-probe-238524)
Something tells me that this is gonna end up the same as the last special prosecutor which resulted in Fitzmas.
Muellermas is on the way folks in 24 business hours!!!! :yahoo:
Dummies gonna love them some Mueller! Until they hate him.
Check out the comments. I think they are all dummies.
So, if he's been assigned to look into Russian interference, will he start looking into the WikiLeaks source? If he does, will he find that it was Seth Rich? Will he then look into why Rich is dead, and who killed him? Did the DOJ just appoint a de facto special prosecutor into the DNC's corruption, with the Congressional Dems cheering from the sidelines?
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Well, well, well. I think President Trump just sprung the trap. Seems there is going to be a special prosecutor for the rooskie probe.
Politico article:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/justice-dept-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-for-russia-probe-238524 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/17/justice-dept-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-for-russia-probe-238524)
Something tells me that this is gonna end up the same as the last special prosecutor which resulted in Fitzmas.
Muellermas is on the way folks in 24 business hours!!!! :yahoo:
Dummies gonna love them some Mueller! Until they hate him.
Check out the comments. I think they are all dummies.
Special prosecutors usually amount to nothing.