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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: LC EFA on August 13, 2008, 06:17:56 AM
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I haven't snipped out the contents of the dummies post even though they are quoting the original source as it is important to the point
gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-12-08 05:08 PM
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Stunning revelation from Scott Ritter article
The final line of questioning focused on weapons of mass destruction. Dave was on his feet, pacing before Mohammed, before turning to him and asking straight out, “Where are the weapons of mass destruction?†Mohammed, who had intimate knowledge of certain aspects of the Iraqi WMD effort, replied straight back: “There are no WMD in Iraq.â€
Dave continued pacing back and forth in front of Mohammed. “My president,†he said, “is in trouble. Can you help him?â€
Mohammed was taken aback by the question. “Excuse me?†he asked. “Could you repeat yourself?â€
Dave sat down next to the Iraqi. “George Bush is in trouble. Our people did not find any WMD in Iraq. Can you help us?â€
Mohammed looked back at Dave. “How?â€
“Can we prepare something for that? We could bring in some nuclear material from the former Soviet Union, and pretend they are Iraqi.â€
Mohammed, stunned by the unexpected nature of the request, indicated that such a ploy could be easily uncovered by forensic examination of the evidence by outside experts, such as UNSCOM (the United Nations Special Commission) or the IAEA, who would undoubtedly be called in to verify such a finding. Dave sat in silence for a few moments, before springing to his feet. “I have to leave for a meeting,†he said. “Stacey will show you out.â€
Mohammed was to meet again with Dave, Stacey and Carol in the weeks that followed. The subject of WMD, Iraqi or otherwise, was never again broached by Dave or anyone else in his team.
In my extensive dealings with him, Mohammed has never lied to me or exaggerated about events he was personally involved in. His story establishes a pattern of behavior which shows how the Bush administration, especially when operating in the form of small, ideologically motivated teams functioning outside the norms and conventions of the mainstream, was able to consider (in Mohammed’s case) manufacturing data and circumstances to bolster its false case for invading Iraq, and (per author Ron Suskind) actually manufacture such data and circumstances. I trust Mohammed. And so I am willing to believe Suskind and his sources about similar cases of fraud, this time in the form of the CIA’s manufactured Mukhabarat document.
[link to ritter story at DU]
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3784928
Now, this sounds like Ritter is trying for a shot at poor imitation of a Tom Clancy novel, the really disturbing part is that many of the DUmmies lap it up like a cat in a cream vat.
vickiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Tue Aug-12-08 06:11 PM
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5. Treasonous bastards. knr n/t
mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Tue Aug-12-08 09:43 PM
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10. always thought this was the real reason for the plame leak. Updated at 9:10 PM
why can't we? the answer is- because valerie plame and brewster jennings would know.
Yeah. Sure.
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Aug-13-08 12:16 AM
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21. TF20 was a textbook...
"Sheep Dip" operation. They go around to all the specop teams, find the best of the best operators, pull them out of their units and literally sanitize their identity and records. They just cease to exist to their units, their branch of service, even their families(if they have one. Those without family ties are much prized.). They are given new "legends", whole new identities. They are then taken to "secret locations" to form the unit, train up and then sent to their AO, to do those things that someone wants done with great amounts of plausible deniability and and no apparent ties to anyone or anything American.
The services hate these sheep dip ops, because they lose their best operators, some never to be seen again.
Ooooookay...... put the crack pipe DOWN.
MonteLukast Donating Member (727 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Aug-13-08 01:13 AM
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25. Sell the war, baby! Sell it!
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 01:14 AM by MonteLukast
Nothing is inadvertent with these people. Nothing. Everything is intentional and calculated.
Because of the Bush administration, I've become more suspicious of people in general, wondering about intentionality behind every oversight, about pre-emptiveness behind every rejection, about deliberate neglect behind every fall-through of carefully laid plans.
Being jaundiced about positive thinking and happiness itself, because of how this band of crooks has used them-- as tools of self-presentation intended to kill discussion and discredit reputations.
That is their legacy for me. Suspecting everything and everyone.
Seek help.
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Scott Ritter should stick to hitting on 14-year-old girls on the Net.
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Scott Ritter should stick to hitting on 14-year-old girls on the Net.
That's what I was thinking, he is a pedophile isn't he? I am wondering why he isn't in jail.
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"Sheep Dip" operation. They go around to all the specop teams, find the best of the best operators, pull them out of their units and literally sanitize their identity and records. They just cease to exist to their units, their branch of service, even their families(if they have one. Those without family ties are much prized.). They are given new "legends", whole new identities. They are then taken to "secret locations" to form the unit, train up and then sent to their AO, to do those things that someone wants done with great amounts of plausible deniability and and no apparent ties to anyone or anything American
Oh snap! Another VRWC recruiting tactic exposed by the oracle of all knowledge at the DUmp.
Bastards anyway!
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"Sheep Dip" operation. They go around to all the specop teams, find the best of the best operators, pull them out of their units and literally sanitize their identity and records. They just cease to exist to their units, their branch of service, even their families(if they have one. Those without family ties are much prized.). They are given new "legends", whole new identities. They are then taken to "secret locations" to form the unit, train up and then sent to their AO, to do those things that someone wants done with great amounts of plausible deniability and and no apparent ties to anyone or anything American
Oh snap! Another VRWC recruiting tactic exposed by the oracle of all knowledge at the DUmp.
Bastards anyway!
I hear TiT has already volunteered.
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"Sheep Dip" operation. They go around to all the specop teams, find the best of the best operators, pull them out of their units and literally sanitize their identity and records. They just cease to exist to their units, their branch of service, even their families(if they have one. Those without family ties are much prized.). They are given new "legends", whole new identities. They are then taken to "secret locations" to form the unit, train up and then sent to their AO, to do those things that someone wants done with great amounts of plausible deniability and and no apparent ties to anyone or anything American
Oh snap! Another VRWC recruiting tactic exposed by the oracle of all knowledge at the DUmp.
Bastards anyway!
I hear TiT has already volunteered.
Yeah, but, the sheep wasn't impressed by his High end Porsche