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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 04, 2017, 10:33:28 AM
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I'll spare you better souls the copy and paste because she's determined to be as vulgar as possible.
However, unlike most of her posts this time the gays (pardon the pun) are pushing back:
Saviolo (1,188 posts)
20. I get it, I'm not an idiot
They're not attacking gay men like myself with their rhetoric when they're saying that Trump and Putin are having sex together. They're using gay imagery and iconography to make fun of Trump and Putin's toxic masculinity. And yeah, it's pretty funny sometimes.
I also got called fag and cocksucker for decades.
So, every time you use those words out loud in front of people, you might be pushing one young gay kid further into the closet because he thinks it must be SO WRONG to be gay that they're using it to insult these terrible people.
Does it bother Trump and Putin? Yeah, absolutely. In Putin's case, it likely means that he's going to put MORE pressure on homosexuals in Russia, and they're already rounding them up in Chechnya and telling mothers to KILL THEIR GAY CHILDREN SO THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO!
So pardon me when I ask for my allies to please not use homosexuality as an insult. I'm not demanding it, and I know it's not gonna stop. The target is just too juicy. I just wish sometimes that my allies on the left weren't so eager to try and upset and demean a strong man literally killing gay people with "Haha, he's a gay!" jokes.
Behind the Aegis (41,165 posts)
24. Apparently, homophobia is OK...sometimes.
The only people I see calling for Colbert's head are hypocritical republicans who couldn't care less about homophobia. As I said in another post, the irony here is the RW is howling about homophobia, while the left, our supposed allies, is ignoring the homophobia. This isn't the be all to end all of anti-gay insults, and as far as Colbert is concerned, he is very gay positive, but it doesn't change the fact it is demeaning to gay people.
Some animals are more equal than others. Apparently, we need to be 'splained to as to why using homophobia is OK when our side does it to "bad" people.
LaydeeBug (9,742 posts)
36. *nope*. It is NOT homophobia to say Trump's mouth is Putin's cock holster.
RedWedge (546 posts)
58. I'm wondering if you can walk us through your reasoning, instead of just saying "nope, that's
not the intent."
ProudLib72 (1,730 posts)
27. I'm not trying to downplay the gay bashing
I'm not trying to explain away something that exists. I can see how a lot of people would jump on the Colbert thing and call it gay bashing. But I just don't see that as a rational response. I see it as a RW attempt to make it into something it isn't. And, yeah, I can also see that trying to turn it into something it's not can be dangerous as well.
What I hope for is a more open discussion of gay issues. I don't think it's enough to say, "Oh, let's all embrace the LBGT community" and then go on about our business as usual. Come to think of it, I've been keeping a mental note of how many (few) threads there are about LGBT issues. I see them every once in a while, and it seems like it's the weekly "token" thread. In other words, I feel like the correct response is to call out the RW pundits for twisting the narrative while having a meaningful dialogue about gay issues. Otherwise, the RW wins.
Finally, I admit that I am writing this from the privileged position of being a straight, white male. So, no, I can't truly imagine your experience. I just don't want you to think I'm making light of it.
pnwmom (81,875 posts)
32. You are being hypocritical. If right-wingers were using the exact same language to attack
people on the left, you would recognize it as gay bashing.
But somehow you think that being an ally of some sort allows you to use gay slurs against people you don't like.
You're wrong. It doesn't. Whether you are gay bashing is NOT dependent on some feeling inside your head -- in other words, if you hate gay people, it's gay bashing; if you love gay people, then it's not bashing.
No, that's not how it works. Whether it is bashing or not depends on the words you use, not your feelings when you use them.
Find some other way to insult Putin and DT than a slur that refers to gay sex.
LaydeeBug (9,742 posts)
40. *nope*. Not being hypocritical at all...being real.
"Find some other way to insult Putin and DT than a slur that refers to gay sex." <<<<<-----*NOPE*
Use WHATEVER WORKS.
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
LaydeeBug (9,742 posts)
42. Holy ****ing WOW full of Oh HELL NO....
every time you use WHATEVER WORKS, you are showing that closeted gay kid that standing up for yourself is something they can do too.
Holy ****ing *WOW*. These are unprecedented times.
Saviolo (1,188 posts)
43. You are like every "ally" I had in high school
... who put their arm around my shoulder and said, "You're okay, man. I don't want to insult you, but THAT GUY OVER THERE IS A FAGGOT! LOLOLOL!!!"
pnwmom (81,875 posts)
31. I'd love to know how many of the people dismissing the significance of this are gay themselves. n/t
LaydeeBug (9,742 posts)
38. I'd love to see the gay community fight *THEM* instead of complaining about *us*
Oh...THAT'S RIGHT....a LOT of the gay community have no compunction whatsoever about any of that shit.
We will not back down. We will not relinquish *any* weapon.
words are words and if they bother them, that helps *us*.
Get ready to hear more "sand in their *****" over this or that.
That word '*****' *bothers* them.
***GOOD***
cwydro (25,085 posts)
46. I'm gay, and I hate being gay used as an insult.
I think you're wasting your time using reason with this particular op however.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029012573
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The bug is close to the line.
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The bug is close to the line.
Russian paid troll alert swarms will surely be her undoing.
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(http://www.celebtricity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/image38.jpg)
Curious to what the primitives thought about this....jealous maybe?
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LaydeeBug (9,765 posts)
33. *nope*...stop making presumptions when they're making ATTACKS.
when they go low, you don't back down, and you *certainly* don't remove weapons from your arsenal
ANY of them.
This is undeniably stupid, and it hamstrings us.
*nope*
In fact, I implore my gays to give us fresh ammunition because "suck a golf ball through a garden hose" is dated by now, and I'm sure there's something more fresh out there.
But ********** that "don't say "he's on his dick" or say "they're bitching and moaning" because that might offend people in our community.
**** THAT ALL DAY LONG. PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO IMPOSE THAT SHIT ARE DIVISIVE AND GASLIGHTING US. **** THOSE MOTHER****ERS. I AM NOT EVEN KIDDING. **** ***ANYBODY*** WHO TRIES TO FIGHT *US* WHILE WE'RE FIGHTING *THEM*. THEY ARE ONLY HELPING TRUMP CHUMPS. SHIT, THEY COULD EVEN BE RUSSIAN. WHO KNOWS.
I know this: *they* have gone so low, that I will NOT back down. If GOPee party people get 'outted' because some of those mother****ers are so far in the closet they're in Narnia, TOUGH ****ING SHIT. I won't even be sorry... and know that outting someone in the closet is a huge no. Wanna know why I dpn't give a shit...like I won't even be sorry...TREASON IS WORSE.
**** that.
all day long.
USE WHATEVER WORKS. Call them bitches, 'mo's, ho's, mother****ers, assholes, I don't give a flying rat's ass, but best BELIEVE anyone trying to hamstring you on this issue wants you to bring a pen to a gun fight.
**** THAT.
She needs to be taken to the nearest rubber room ASAP :mental: :mental: :mental: :mental:
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The gay mafia over there has a lot of clout...they're chiseling her name on a tombstone as I type.
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I was thinking her defense of using gay imagery to insult Trump might not go over well.
I wonder, however, how many upset DU-gays were yucking it up on the DU-threads where Melania was call a prostitute (whore, etc.).
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pnwmom (81,901 posts)
29. They are being used in order to demean Putin and Trump -- in their minds.
You said:" it isn't because anyone is trying to bother gays, and you know it. It bothers *them*, and *we* know that, too."
You are advocating the use of this as the ultimate insult against DT and Putin, but by doing so you are validating it as an insult.
LaydeeBug (9,765 posts)
35. see post #33 and never try to hamstring me again.
pnwmom (81,901 posts)
55. Or what? You'll insult gay people some more? nt
:popcorn:
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I wonder what would their reaction be had Colbert said Trump is Putin's ni**er. :fuelfire:
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(to the tune of 'Respect')
R-S-T-L-N-E
Don't ask what that means to me
R-S-T-L-N-E
Gimme some of that LSD
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R-S-T-L-N-E
Don't ask what that means to me
R-S-T-L-N-E
Gimme some of that LSD
Those are the "gimme" letters on Wheel of Fortune. :rofl:
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Those are the "gimme" letters on Wheel of Fortune. :rofl:
heh I know. It's also a parody of 'Respect'.
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Identity politics is really leading the left down a path that they never intended.
So keep doubling down on it, more fun for us sane humans.
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Can't they ake a hormone pill, or something.
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That chick is crazy as a bedbug. Damn. And when she *gets* on to something *new* she. just. wears. it. out. I *FEEL* like I'm being **GASLIGHTED**!!!11!!!
She's an embarrassment to women everywhere.
Wow.
KC
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That chick is crazy as a bedbug. Damn. And when she *gets* on to something *new* she. just. wears. it. out. I *FEEL* like I'm being **GASLIGHTED**!!!11!!!
She's an embarrassment to women everywhere.
Wow.
KC
I'm thinking more like Mole Level Expert. I'm talking randys1 league.
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(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CaBBxSLZEic/maxresdefault.jpg)
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I'm thinking more like Mole Level Expert. I'm talking randys1 league.
Whoa, wait a minute here. What are you doing? Trying to Frame. The. Narrative??
*Nope*, she's NOT going to let you GASLIGHT HER!
:lmao:
KC
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So all I know is trump was married to Marla maples (HAWT), Ivanka's mother (can't remember her name, but she was hawt) and now Melania (Smokin' HAWT) Meanwhile there idol, thought about become a pilowbiter and college and ended up marrying a tranny. I think it';s best if they just drop this whole topic myself, but I'm sure they'll ride it right to their demise in the 2018 mid terms like everything else.
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LaydeeBug (9,772 posts)
80. Nice try. No dice. I insist that you not censor me at ALL.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8dytUtjlQ[/youtube]
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LaydeeBug (9,765 posts)
33. *nope*...stop making presumptions when they're making ATTACKS.
when they go low, you don't back down, and you *certainly* don't remove weapons from your arsenal
ANY of them.
This is undeniably stupid, and it hamstrings us.
*nope*
In fact, I implore my gays to give us fresh ammunition because "suck a golf ball through a garden hose" is dated by now, and I'm sure there's something more fresh out there.
But ********** that "don't say "he's on his dick" or say "they're bitching and moaning" because that might offend people in our community.
**** THAT ALL DAY LONG. PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO IMPOSE THAT SHIT ARE DIVISIVE AND GASLIGHTING US. **** THOSE MOTHER****ERS. I AM NOT EVEN KIDDING. **** ***ANYBODY*** WHO TRIES TO FIGHT *US* WHILE WE'RE FIGHTING *THEM*. THEY ARE ONLY HELPING TRUMP CHUMPS. SHIT, THEY COULD EVEN BE RUSSIAN. WHO KNOWS.
I know this: *they* have gone so low, that I will NOT back down. If GOPee party people get 'outted' because some of those mother****ers are so far in the closet they're in Narnia, TOUGH ****ING SHIT. I won't even be sorry... and know that outting someone in the closet is a huge no. Wanna know why I dpn't give a shit...like I won't even be sorry...TREASON IS WORSE.
**** that.
all day long.
USE WHATEVER WORKS. Call them bitches, 'mo's, ho's, mother****ers, assholes, I don't give a flying rat's ass, but best BELIEVE anyone trying to hamstring you on this issue wants you to bring a pen to a gun fight.
**** THAT.
(https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/b7f9bb7766589.560b14b10e963.png)
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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #160)Thu May 4, 2017, 05:55 PM
cwydro (25,112 posts)
167. Gaslighting seems to be this poster's go-to phrase.
Boring.
And used wrongly most often.
:rotf:
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I had hopes for the batshit beetle for DOTY. Unfortunately she is burning waaay too bright early in the year. Now she is semi dissing the gays at DU? :mental:
Really bad move. The DU gays stick together like the DU feminists do. They gonna come down on her like the tsunami on Banda Aceh.
Batshit beetle better watch out cause if she don't change and change soon, it is only a matter of time. The ban hammer will come down on her like a ton of bricks.
I'll predict a granite pizza in her future.
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not banned yet
(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2014/03/heathers1/lead_large.jpg?1430158043)
"don't let them frame the ****ing narrative!"
"gaslight"
"woke up"
"this is a coup!"
why even her own family can't stand her
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Identity politics will be their downfall. Keep it up.
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Some good info here (https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.msg1397852#msg1397852) and here (https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.msg1397857#msg1397857). Buggee's crayzee may be more than metaphoric.
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Oh my.
Oh dear.
Goodness gracious.
comments 3512-3515:
https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.3500
If the first three comments are somewhat confusing to one, our esteemed colleague SVPete has kindly written an eminently readable summary, the last comment.
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I'm always trying, :-) .
Tess did her amazing work, as usual.
What is it with so many DU-folk riding or trying to hop on one of governments' many gravy trains. It's a rather credible stereotype of DU.
(http://cdn1.viewpoints.com/pro-product-photos/000/420/336/300/50097686.jpg)
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Some good info here (https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.msg1397852#msg1397852) and here (https://conservativecave.com/home/index.php?topic=81827.msg1397857#msg1397857). Buggee's crayzee may be more than metaphoric.
*sigh*
84 more posts!
(now 83 :-))
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*sigh*
84 more posts!
(now 83 :-))
Kitten and puppy pictures are your friend. Seriously, the Buggee info is more substantial than a Buggee-in-a-silly-Halloween-costume picture (as amusing as those are).
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Fantastic work as usual to the PI's!
Last post, dear Lord 205 posts in that hot mess:
Response to loyalsister (Reply #201)
Fri May 5, 2017, 06:39 PM
LaydeeBug (9,782 posts)
205. *nope*. Conflate with someone else. I'm woke.
Of course. It's fascinating to watch actual mental illness in real time, not just in a novel about a serial killer.
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Saviolo (1,188 posts)
20. I get it, I'm not an idiot
They're not attacking gay men like myself with their rhetoric when they're saying that Trump and Putin are having sex together. They're using gay imagery and iconography to make fun of Trump and Putin's toxic masculinity. And yeah, it's pretty funny sometimes.
I also got called fag and cocksucker for decades.
Not really sure what you're complaining about. It's objectively true: you are, in fact, a cocksucker.
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Not really sure what you're complaining about. It's objectively true: you are, in fact, a cocksucker.
Way back when, I was an RA in college. Came into the lobby one Sunday to see a friend of mine openly crying. I asked what was going on and he declared that one of my residents called him a faggot (he was, grew up in years of abuse) I said "yea, but I call you one all the time and it doesn't bother you." "You don't mean it when you say it." That really struck home for some reason.
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heh I know. It's also a parody of 'Respect'.
Can you believe that Vanna White gets millions of dollars a year to point at the the board? She doesn't even turn letters any more. Oh and she says 10 words with Pat at the end of the show.