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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: AzJames73 on May 03, 2017, 12:50:03 PM
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TheMastersNemesis (7,428 posts)
Kimmel's Plea Falls On Many Deaf Ears. I Would Let Those Bastards Die In An Emergency.
I am just sick of the GOP and conservative and Trump lovers crap. The GOP will vote every week until they totally **** up everyones health care. They are willing to risk and take lives and even enjoy it.
If you want to refuse me care if I am sick. Then I am willing to let you die in an emergency. If you are going down a river and I am there then I will way good bye to you if you are a Trumper, conservative and believe the health care is only for the privileged few. I am sick of it and I am tired of it.
Good thing I am not a doctor and you are not one of my patients you POS. You demand all the health care for your self but **** everyone else who might be poor or a black or a brown or disabled. I will teach you. If you have a heart attack I will just give youth pads and say "Just save yourself" prick.
How did we ever get to this viciousness in our country. The GOPPERS who are trying to destroy the ACA should be running for their lives or be ready to leave the country.
Sorry, but you get to the point where you have had enough. Sure I will get criticized.
After watching Kimmel and hearing all the conservative and hateful GOP bullshit on TV I have had it.
Still angry Bob ? :loser:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029010667
Jimmy Kimmel makes $12 million a year. Any kid of his will be well taken care of. Appealing for universal healthcare is just throwing a bone to his lower IQ viewers. If we have government run healthcare, more people will die. Just ask the citizens of Great Britain how government run healthcare works.
Only a low life liberal would use his child's medical problems to make a political statement.
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I don't make policy decisions based upon what some late night talk show host has to say about it. Seems Bob gets his marching orders from some goober in LA.
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Hmm, Republicans are going to f-up health care, Hopalong? It's already an absolute quagmire.
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I'm not going to lie. I feel the same way about leftists like Bob. I actually enjpy reading storeies about one of these people dropping dead. So frankly the feeling is mutual.
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Still angry Bob ? :loser:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029010667
Jimmy Kimmel makes $12 million a year. Any kid of his will be well taken care of. Appealing for universal healthcare is just throwing a bone to his lower IQ viewers. If we have government run healthcare, more people will die. Just ask the citizens of Great Britain how government run healthcare works.
Only a low life liberal would use his child's medical problems to make a political statement.
I am glad Jimmy's kid got the care he needed...but...
Jimmy is fine asking for everyone else to contribute $$$ via taxes for health insurance (not care). Nothing is stopping Jimmy and his friends from donating 90%+ of their salary to the hospital of their choice to help cover the expenses of those who cannot afford care.
I also notice he did not take his child to any country that offers universal health care.
TheMastersNemesis (7,428 posts)
Kimmel's Plea Falls On Many Deaf Ears. I Would Let Those Bastards Die In An Emergency.
I am just sick of the GOP and conservative and Trump lovers crap. The GOP will vote every week until they totally **** up everyones health care. They are willing to risk and take lives and even enjoy it.
If you want to refuse me care if I am sick. Then I am willing to let you die in an emergency. If you are going down a river and I am there then I will way[wave?] good bye to you if you are a Trumper, conservative and believe the health care is only for the privileged few.
I doubt there is much you could do anyway, except maybe Bob <---works as noun and verb btw.
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Questions:
1.) Does the R healthcare plan, at present, exclude pre-existing conditions? Or are Jimmy Kimmel and TMN ASSuming it does?
2.) Pre-OhBummerCare, were defects detected at birth excluded from health insurance plans as a pre-existing condition? Or are Jimmy Kimmel and TMN ASSuming that was the case?
I don't know the answers, I just know that when Libs & Progs invoke factoids in support of their ideology, check whether those factoids are actually facts.
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I'm not going to lie. I feel the same way about leftists like Bob. I actually enjpy reading storeies about one of these people dropping dead. So frankly the feeling is mutual.
Oh, very much so. The more grizzly, horrible and hopefully painful and drawn out, the better. I want them exterminated.
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Once again, liberals are showing that they believe in slavery.
They are demanding that others work to provide services for other people.
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Questions:
1.) Does the R healthcare plan, at present, exclude pre-existing conditions? Or are Jimmy Kimmel and TMN ASSuming it does?
2.) Pre-OhBummerCare, were defects detected at birth excluded from health insurance plans as a pre-existing condition? Or are Jimmy Kimmel and TMN ASSuming that was the case?
I don't know the answers, I just know that when Libs & Progs invoke factoids in support of their ideology, check whether those factoids are actually facts.
So, I found the answer to my first question (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/02/health-care-republicans-obamacare-237910). Yes, pre-existing conditions are covered by the Rs' plan as it currently is. I also compared the date of this article to the date of TMN's post. Either he posted in ignorance, or he lied, assuming no DU-member would fact-check his foundational claim/lie.
Whichever is the case, my instinct to check Lib/Prog factoids is again proven prescient.
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Either he posted in ignorance, or he lied, assuming no DU-member would fact-check his foundational claim/lie.
If it was just about any other primitive, I'd say that they were ignorant. But ol' Hopalong Bob--he lied and is ignorant.
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Questions:
1.) Does the R healthcare plan, at present, exclude pre-existing conditions? Or are Jimmy Kimmel and TMN ASSuming it does?
2.) Pre-OhBummerCare, were defects detected at birth excluded from health insurance plans as a pre-existing condition? Or are Jimmy Kimmel and TMN ASSuming that was the case?
I don't know the answers, I just know that when Libs & Progs invoke factoids in support of their ideology, check whether those factoids are actually facts.
It is physically impossible for newborns to have pre-existing conditions. Before birth, newborns are merely clusters of random cells.
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As best I remember, every health plan I've ever had automatically covered our children from birth, with some grace period (a month?) to have the child added to my plan by name and birthdate. Granted, that was the 80s, but I don't think that has changed.
Whatever the mix of ignorance and deception, Kimmel's and TMN's premise, that children born with birth defects aren't covered for those birth defects is false.
Unsurprisingly.
Not that facts matter on DU, Hollyweird, or other corners of ProgLand.
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Then I am willing to let you die in an emergency. If you are going down a river and I am there then I will way good bye to you if you are a Trumper, conservative
I just couldn't get past this without playing a little movie in my mind's eye. Hopalong out for a hike in the woods, with a raging river. Shouting to the distressed guy in the river, "Who did you vote for? What are your core beliefs?" The drowning guy going "what? Blub blub blub, what???" So, Bob, satisfied he let a conservative die without notifying anyone, hops home. He brags about it to DU and his Colorado committee members. What happens next?
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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)
Wed May 3, 2017, 07:43 PM
roamer65 (11,517 posts)
14. It is ok to let them suffer the repercussions of their poor decisions.
If they are suffering due to those decisions, you are fully in your rights to walk away and let natural selection run its course.
I put this on facebook.
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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)
Wed May 3, 2017, 07:43 PM
roamer65 (11,517 posts)
14. It is ok to let them suffer the repercussions of their poor decisions.
If they are suffering due to those decisions, you are fully in your rights to walk away and let natural selection run its course.
So many college graduates will never repay their debts because they used poor judgement when picking a major. So many people are homeless because they decided drugs and alcohol were more important. So many people are in prison because of poor life choices.
DUmmies demand the government help most of these people.
We should let natural selection work it's magic on all those people that can't survive without government benefits.
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I'm not going to lie. I feel the same way about leftists like Bob. I actually enjpy reading storeies about one of these people dropping dead. So frankly the feeling is mutual.
I still get a smile and a warm feeling from the memory of that schmuck who died over his computer and he typed "president gore" with his dying breath. NOT "I love my family" or "I will always be with you, Jane" but something stupidly political.
The world got a bit better when that idiot went to room temperature. If we are fortunate, the new obozocare-light will target democrats and liberals and help them shuffle off this mortal coil. And I will smile as it happens.
And you DUmmy lurkers can quote me. Please do.
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I doubt there is much you could do anyway, except maybe Bob <---works as noun and verb btw.
*snicker*
Questions:
1.) Does the R healthcare plan, at present, exclude pre-existing conditions? Or are Jimmy Kimmel and TMN ASSuming it does?
2.) Pre-OhBummerCare, were defects detected at birth excluded from health insurance plans as a pre-existing condition? Or are Jimmy Kimmel and TMN ASSuming that was the case?
I don't know the answers, I just know that when Libs & Progs invoke factoids in support of their ideology, check whether those factoids are actually facts.
#2: I don't have a tremendous amount of experience in this matter, and I don't have kids, so my opinion here is probably not worth the two cents after inflation, but here it is anyway.
I have always read through every insurance option very carefully, be that health insurance, car insurance, whatever. It's probably a little sick and twisted, but I actually look for ways that some insurance is somehow not going to cover me for my needs (hey, it doesn't specifically say that my roof gets replaced if a meteor crashes into my living room, so I need to have that spelled out in the policy). To that end, I have on more than one occasion demanded some seemingly silly riders on policies: I demanded a rider on my homeowner's insurance that said that if extraterrestrials came to earth and took my wife's engagement or wedding ring, they would be specifically covered, for example. Some of that is admittedly silliness, but it also has the specific benefit of telling the insurance company that I'm not to be toyed with and that they can't bulldoze me should I need to make a claim. More generically, I have demanded things like riders to cover what would seem to be innocuous, such as ensuring that things like pet food and pet medicines would be covered in the event of a total loss on my house, for example. That seems like minutiae on its face, but when your wife is a veterinarian and you have multiple animals in the household with health issues, suddenly having to replace a bunch of medicines if your house burns down can get very expensive very quickly.
To that end, I have carefully read every health insurance plan ever presented to me. To date, I have never encountered a plan that did not cover pretty much everything imaginable when it comes to a baby if maternity coverage is included in the plan. Broadly-speaking, my observation has been that basically everything from conception to at least six months of age is covered, though most plans demand that the baby be added as a dependent within a month or two of birth. Things like premature birth, siamese twins, heart and lung issues, you name it have been covered in every plan I have ever seen. Undies joked about pre-existing conditions not being possible, but in point of fact, if the mother is covered with maternity coverage, then by definition the baby cannot have pre-existing conditions because that baby was insured beforehand, thus negating a pre-existing condition clause in any insurance plan. This is not something new and it didn't magically come about because of Obamafail: I saw this coverage in the early '90s, at a time when I was still considering having children.
Kimmel doubtless has excellent health coverage through NBC, as well he should through contract negotiations. But to pretend that he somehow thinks that we peons never had this option until the Great and Benevolent Obama came on the scene is asinine on its face. With very little exception, we Little People also had good coverage for this long before anyone had ever even heard the name Obama.
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Oh, very much so. The more grizzly, horrible and hopefully painful and drawn out, the better. I want them exterminated.
The leftist are doing their very best/worst to make people like you, Fourwinds, and myself. A few years ago I just pointed and laughed at leftists. Now I hate them. Nice work. Obama sure healed the country and united us all.
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The leftist are doing their very best/worst to make people like you, Fourwinds, and myself. A few years ago I just pointed and laughed at leftists. Now I hate them. Nice work. Obama sure healed the country and united us all.
It's even beyond simple hate, for me. These little subhumans would march us off to the happy fun camp trains, if given even the slightest opportunity. The more of us that realize this, the better. These are not misguided people that we disagree with.
(https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.rxTXFJ_IeYwuK_B_dl3DLgEsB9&pid=15.1)
They are evil. Very stupid, but evil nonetheless.
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They are evil. Very stupid, but evil nonetheless.
Hence, the need for the 2nd Amendment.
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Still angry Bob ? :loser:
Obviously, but he's gotta run out of steam sooner or later.
Oh, happy day, when that happens.