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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 30, 2017, 10:17:46 PM
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ProudLib72 (1,683 posts)
Biggest Gaslighting Campaign Ever: Democrats Are Out of Touch
Yesterday's Atlantic article discussing the WaPo poll from the previous week and all of its nuances.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/04/democratic-party-out-of-touch-obama-wall-street-speech/524784/
This is the section I'm most interested in:
There is nuance to the results of the survey. A closer look at the numbers shows that while a majority of Americans believe the Democratic Party is out of touch, most Democrats do not, though that’s only by a slim majority. Democratic voters do, however, seem to have less confidence in their party—at least at the moment—than Republicans do in theirs. A higher percentage of Republican voters, at 60 percent, said that the GOP is in touch with the concerns of most people, compared with just 52 percent of Democrats who said the same of their party.
Why do we think our party is "out of touch"? At this point in the game, you would think the majority would realize we are the party most down to earth. But it is not a comparison between Democrat and republican. Instead, it is simply our party, taken on its own, fairing against our own standards.
My personal opinion is that the low numbers do not indicate we have super high (impossible) standards of our own accord. Rather, we are and have been gaslighted into believing that our party is "out of touch" by years of republican rhetoric. We hold our party to such high standards because republican rhetoric demands that we scrutinize each toothpick thin plank in our party's platform.
Meanwhile, republicans stick their fingers in their ears when we tell them they do not represent 99.9% of America.
So I beg you to stop scrutinizing your party looking for flaws and then amplifying them when you find them. There will always be flaws of some kind, but we can correct them. The important thing to remember is that we are the party of sanity. We care.
Still misusing the term "gaslighting" in order to feel superior to the rest of us, I see.
Sculpin Beauregard (610 posts)
2. Simple: "The Democratic Party is the non-treason party"
The Democratic Party doesn't cheat and steal elections.
The Democratic Party doesn't rely on secret societies that have been funded by Billionaire special interests to skew and distort education, ideology and funding to benefit the .01%.
The Democratic Party believes that healthcare is a BASIC *******ED HUMAN RIGHT, and is NOT NEGOTIABLE, because this is what CIVILIZED SOCIETIES DO.
And of course, much more, a woman's right to choose, racial equality.
What does the GOP believe in? Lining the pockets of the .01%, and shoving regression and repression down everyone's throats, and keeping most people powerless so that nobody can challenge their power. The REGRESSIVE, OPRESSIVE Party.
Then, lots of posts claiming it's not their policies, it's just the messaging.
Look, assholes, there is nobody in America that doesn't know you mutts stand for punitive taxes, late term abortion, racism, cheap thuggery and comforting America's enemies.
JudyM (9,646 posts)
6. Absolutely agree, and apparently so does Pelosi.
YOHABLO (3,527 posts)
20. Most of the American public are clueless, misinformed and subject to R-wing propaganda.
Who makes it that way? Corporate America. Even MSNBC regarded as the more liberal ''news organization" can't step over Corporate lines drawn to defend their profits.
By the way I am not buying this "survey'' I think it's full of bullshit.
Then how come Hillary couldn't buy the WH?
Shandris (3,284 posts)
23. The reason some conspiracy theorists think we are 'out of touch'...
...might have something to do with the 1,000 or so legislative seats we've lost in the last several years nationwide, the loss of literally every stated (as opposed to intelligence/unstated) lever of power in the nation, the complete annihilation of 'the firewall' during the election, the fact that our sloganeers couldn't make a candidate whose ONLY weak point was her complete and total unlikability defeat a clown and started by making the fundamental mistake of campaign slogans: subservient versus campaign slogan: action (spoiler alert, action almost always wins).
It's amazing the things conspiracy theorists believe! Clearly, we all know the REAL truth. Hackers that can't be found used computers that can't be found to hack into databases that show no logs to 'influence' an election that just happened to mind control people into spontaneously turning into Nazi-sympathizing evil cretins just 8 years after they voted for a black man so they could elect the person who masterminded the ENTIRE operation, a businessman who is so incompetent he has to get a crash course on literally every topic from world leader, and we have ALL the evidence we need to prove it except no one is calling for it, showing it, mentioning it, talking about it, or using the UNIVERSAL military response that removes a literal coup.
ProudLib72 (1,683 posts)
25. Yes, mind control
You have to ask how they were able to mind control people out of voting for HRC. I mean, how the hell did they convince people to even be on the fence? "Locker room talk" versus "her emails!" The republicans are able to create slogans and disseminate them rapidly over social media and the MSM. They managed to co-opt the "deplorables" slogan seemingly within seconds. And it was nationwide, crossing socio-economic barriers. Why are we not able to do that? Why is it that the TRUTH is so difficult to disseminate? I still say that it's because they control the dialogue (should it be "monologue" at this point?) and their rhetoric has been subtly brainwashing America since the W administration.
"Why are we not able to do that?"
You were the idiots that created the deplorables slur and you're bitching you didn't get it broadcast sufficiently to your liking?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028998335
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DUers are basically mentally retarded.
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I'm beginning to think that those "gaslights" are powered by mercury vapor, because that's some pretty serious crazy going on there.
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The problem is that blasted Free Speech! Get rid of that and people will see dems are the party of unicorns and Skittles!
certainot (3,809 posts)
19. this is really not going to change as long as dems ignore Rcon radio
1000 radio stations not only amplifying faults but make them up out of thin air and then amplify them.
at the same time, trump's shit don't stink and obama is running a shadow govt coup from his DC home. that propaganda operation will play a major part in keeping trump in office and excusing his wars, corruption, disasters
democrats could transform the political equation merely by not ignoring rw radio, giving it the 'credit' it deserves, elevate limbaugh to head of the GOP and put RUSH tattoos on every republican politician and media pundit, boycotting all their station advertisers not just limbaugh's, and protesting the 88 universities that support 257 limbaugh stations.
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certainot (3,809 posts)
19. this is really not going to change as long as dems ignore Rcon radio
1000 radio stations not only amplifying faults but make them up out of thin air and then amplify them.
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democrats could transform the political equation merely by not ignoring rw radio, giving it the 'credit' it deserves, elevate limbaugh to head of the GOP and put RUSH tattoos on every republican politician and media pundit, boycotting all their station advertisers not just limbaugh's, and protesting the 88 universities that support 257 limbaugh stations.
Boycott Rush's, Sean's, Mark's, etc. advertisers? Brilliant!! How come nobody's thought of that before?! Duplicate the successes of the Chick-fil-A and Hobby Lobby boycotts!!!
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Gaslight?
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I think it is funny that the Chick-fil-A and Hobby Lobby boycotts were major fails, yet the Target boycott got results.
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Lots of incoherent posts and DUmmies talking around in circles. A few Name Removed posts. A fun little thread, they have no idea. :lmao:
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I think it is funny that the Chick-fil-A and Hobby Lobby boycotts were major fails, yet the Target boycott got results.
I've mentioned this before, I'm sure, but when the CfA kerfuffle happened in 2012, there were no CfAs in the SF Bay Area (the nearest was Fairfield, 20-30 minutes' drive from the nearest Bay Area City). Now there are 7-9, depending on how you define "SF Bay Area". I don't know how long it's been there, but I "discovered" back in 2014 while driving to a race that there is a HL about 20-30 minutes south of San Jose. There are 4 HLs in the SF Bay Area.
As for Target, the general decline lately in brick-and-mortar retail kind of makes uncertain what effects the boycott may have had, but if there has been some effect, it's because parents (of whatever political leanings) of young children "get" what pols refuse to admit: pervs will pretend to be whatever they "need" to pretend to be in order to get access to their next victim.
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The Democratic Party believes that healthcare is a BASIC *******ED HUMAN RIGHT, and is NOT NEGOTIABLE, because this is what CIVILIZED SOCIETIES DO.
Assumes facts not in evidence or reality. How is forcing another person to be a slave so that a functional moron/DUchebag gets something that is not earned. Either you force medical professionals to provide services to said DUmmy or you force functioning, decent and civilized people to pay the medical professional to provide expensive care to a drain on society.
Now I have no problem when a medical professional or person donates money but to force this on others is the very definition of slavery.
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They managed to co-opt the "deplorables" slogan seemingly within seconds. And it was nationwide, crossing socio-economic barriers.
You (D)Ummies forgot that it is better to be deplored as deplorables by the deplorable, than it is to be admired by the admirable.
CMD
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ProudLib72 (1,683 posts)
25. ... They managed to co-opt the "deplorables" slogan seemingly within seconds. And it was nationwide, crossing socio-economic barriers. ...
Demonizing 1/4 - 1/2 the voters in the US wasn't just dumb, it was jaw-droppingly monumentally dumb! So dumb that half the nation played and replayed and replayed her comment a dozen or more times, just to be sure The CHILL had uttered the inanity all those people thought they had heard her say. And DU-folk celebrated and :hi5: ed her inanity!