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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on April 20, 2017, 12:01:28 PM
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Star Member LongTomH (7,491 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/1280218903
The 'Bernie Derangement Syndrome' seems to be growing!
First, I don't get it!! Hillary won the primary; Bernie supported her. Why the growing hatred? Is there an agenda beyond mere resentment?
The latest iteration of this, is to accuse Bernie and his supporters of 'dividing' the party; then they viciously attack the segment of the party that supports, or at least is supportive, of Bernie Sanders.
The shrillbots have to blame someone for her loss. It can't be her.
So... it's either the Russians or Bernie. (although Bernie is a commie... :???: )
- Jim Lane (8,934 posts)
2. Part of it is that Bernie IS dividing the party - fortunately
Some Democrats who say they want party unity mean that they want everyone to be united in support of them -- the business-as-usual faction. They wanted a party in which Hillary coasted to the nomination the way Gore did in 2000, when he won every primary and caucus against an opponent who voiced no major disagreements with him.
We can't deny that, if no one had challenged Hillary for the nomination, then the Democratic Party would have been more unified. Now, post-election, if Bernie and other progressives would just shut up and go along with the John Podesta types, then the Democratic Party would be more unified.
Of course, it works both ways. Those people could unify the party if they would shut up and go along with progressives.
In the real world, the Democratic Party is indeed a big tent. It generally has approximate unity on some broad themes but with a lot of room for disagreement on specifics (and even on some of the broad themes). That won't change. Some people on the left who can't deal with that fact have stomped off to ally themselves with the Green Party. I suggest to the Bernie-bashers that if they can't deal with internal disagreement then they also should leave. Maybe Joe Lieberman could start a new party for them. He's done it before.
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The head of the DNC is promoting Bernie and dragging him to rallies around the country. The DUmmies need to get on the Bernie train or get run over by it. :fuelfire:
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Apparently, the new post mortem book about The CHILL's campaign credits some of the damage done to the campaign to The BERN, specifically to his staying in the primaries late and to his unenthusiastic endorsement of The CHILL. Far from all, of course, but since they talk mostly of The CHILL's mistakes, DU-folk aren't going to hear any of that. So it's The BERN and Russia and Comey, anybody/everybody except ...
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Apparently, the new post mortem book about The CHILL's campaign credits some of the damage done to the campaign to The BERN, specifically to his staying in the primaries late and to his unenthusiastic endorsement of The CHILL. Far from all, of course, but since they talk mostly of The CHILL's mistakes, DU-folk aren't going to hear any of that. So it's The BERN and Russia and Comey, anybody/everybody except ...
..."She Who Must Be Obeyed."
- Just to complete the thought for you, there.
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I thought DUmmies are pro-Bernie Sanders.
DU has always been anti-Clinton as far as I know. They even banned Clinton supporters in 2008.
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Some Democrats who say they want party unity mean that they want everyone to be united in support of them -- the business-as-usual faction. They wanted a party in which Hillary coasted to the nomination the way Gore did in 2000, when he won every primary and caucus against an opponent who voiced no major disagreements with him.
Wow, this is really accurate and on point.
Although we should add that the democrats expect the same thing on the national level; when they refer to unity, they mean "get on the bus, or get under it".
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In the real world, the Democratic Party is indeed a big tent.
More like a big dumpster. Or landfill. Or pile of dirty laundry in a crackhouse.
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More like a big dumpster. Or landfill. Or pile of dirty laundry in a crackhouse.
Or septic tank. Or leach field. :stoner:
ETA: Bernie just went out and supported the right of Ann Coulter to speak in Berkeley. That should piss 'me off! :-) :fuelfire: :whistling:
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.. when they refer to unity, they mean "get on the bus, or get under it".
More specifically, "Get into the back of the bus, serfs, or get under the front wheels."
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ETA: Bernie just went out and supported the right of Ann Coulter to speak in Berkeley. That should piss 'me off! :-) :fuelfire: :whistling:
The BERN just lived through a reversal of who's in power - from many/most states' legislatures all the way through the White House (and knows that whether RBG gets replaced by a Constitutionalist or Kennedy - preferably, both and more - the USSC would swerve away from tyranny by judicial fiat). He gets it. The BERN realizes that, at least hypothetically, it could be Noam Chomsky and Rachel Madcow being shouted down and shut down by rioters. I don't think that would happen, but hypothetically, it could happen.