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Title: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: dutch508 on April 18, 2017, 01:08:07 PM
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Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama

Just looking at her, there's no way she makes it through Trump's full term. Then we're gonna get an ultra-stacked right wing SCOTUS as Trump appoints another conservative justice. Why oh WHY didn't she just retire and let Obama replace her?

first:  :rotf:

second: I hope Justice Ginsburg has a long joy filled life.

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Star Member MiniMe (15,522 posts)
3. You think McConnell would have passed through a judge replacing Ginsburg?

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Star Member The Velveteen Ocelot (50,429 posts)
4. If she had, there'd have been another Judge Garland situation

with two nominees dangling in the wind instead of one.

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Star Member NYC Liberal (17,867 posts)
8. Not if she had retired before 2014.

We had a majority in the Senate for 6 years.

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Star Member malchickiwick (361 posts)
11. Underestimate RBG at your own peril. I predict she outlasts this dismal administration.

Remember when she was dying of cancer?

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Star Member Blue_Tires (47,365 posts)
33. I hope all those "But Hillary is too flawed and too unpopular!!111" folks realize they just handed Trump three SC vacancies...

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Star Member SticksnStones (1,681 posts)
43. He spent that small window of time with Dems in majority working on health care This is classic armchair quarterbacking...
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 18, 2017, 01:16:17 PM
I think ol' RBG is going to have a recurrence of the cancer that has taken two shots at her (colon, and pancreatic, though the latter was found quickly).
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: BadCat on April 18, 2017, 01:20:13 PM
I think ol' RBG is going to have a recurrence of the cancer that has taken two shots at her (colon, and pancreatic, though the latter was found quickly).

If you survive pancreatic cancer, it means the devil doesn't want you yet.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 18, 2017, 01:27:59 PM
Just possibly, as a Justice, her number one concern doesn't lie in affecting the ideological tilt of the court, and is simply trying to fulfill her duties as long as she feels able, and let the chips fall where they may afterward.

Of course no DUmmie would understand that, since literally everything they can hold in their tiny minds is viewed through the far left end of a partisan political prism. 
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: 67 Rover on April 18, 2017, 01:29:30 PM
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Star Member malchickiwick (361 posts)
11. Underestimate RBG at your own peril. I predict she outlasts this dismal administration.

Remember when she was dying of cancer?

With this clowns prediction RBG just moved to the top of my dead pool prediction list.  :-)
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: 67 Rover on April 18, 2017, 01:30:40 PM
If you survive pancreatic cancer, it means the devil doesn't want you yet.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: SVPete on April 18, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
Somehow Libs/Progs got it into their heads that the Ds could not lose in 2016 - from before the campaign started all the way through the announcement that Trump had indeed won (ignoring the fools who fantasize that the election was "stolen"). In that context, why would RBG perceive any urgent need to retire. If she was at all thinking of retiring, she was choosing between BHO picking her successor and HRC picking her successor. I assume her choice - if she made one - is obvious.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on April 18, 2017, 02:00:35 PM
Tilting at windmills, making up their own alternate reality is truly the DUmp mindset.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: FlaGator on April 18, 2017, 03:45:04 PM
I think that if the Dems would have been easier to deal with on Gorsuch Trump might have made his next pick something a little closer to the center. Since they chose to act like a-holes it wouldn't surprise me if his next pick was Ted Cruz.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: jukin on April 18, 2017, 04:03:12 PM
Just possibly, as a Justice, her number one concern doesn't lie in affecting the ideological tilt of the court, and is simply trying to fulfill her duties as long as she feels able, and let the chips fall where they may afterward.

Oh DAT, you made me laugh and laugh.

This is the Notorious RGB that wants a South African style Constitution for the USA. She is ALL about ideology, far left ideology.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 18, 2017, 04:15:41 PM
Oh DAT, you made me laugh and laugh.

This is the Notorious RGB that wants a South African style Constitution for the USA. She is ALL about ideology, far left ideology.

Yeah, I know she's Left.  Believe me, I know.  But no matter how ideological a Justice may be either way, it's extremely unusual for one of them to retire just so a particular President gets to pick the replacement.  It's just not the done thing, as long as the Justice still feels fully capable of doing the job.

Now even if she were one of those few outliers, she probably believed all the BS about Hitlery winning anyway, and if that's the case, Trump's victory is doubly sweet.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: thundley4 on April 18, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
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Star Member SticksnStones (1,681 posts)
43. He spent that small window of time with Dems in majority working on ruining health care This is classic armchair quarterbacking...

FIFY.  Honestly, ObamaCare was such a crap sandwich that some dems had to be bribed into supporting it.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on April 18, 2017, 04:45:48 PM
FIFY.  Honestly, ObamaCare was such a crap sandwich that some dems had to be bribed into supporting it.
The name Jonathan Gruber comes to mind.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on April 18, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
I think that if the Dems would have been easier to deal with on Gorsuch Trump might have made his next pick something a little closer to the center. Since they chose to act like a-holes it wouldn't surprise me if his next pick was Ted Cruz.
Trey Gowdy.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: I_B_Perky on April 18, 2017, 05:27:34 PM
If you survive pancreatic cancer, it means the devil doesn't want you yet.

No shit.  That and liver cancer.  You get either of those, better make out your will.

I remember the red rotund one had pancreatic cancer.  Made it thru the surgery and then died of an infection.  The devil really wanted him after the great internet scam... so Frank killed him.  :lmao:

 
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: I_B_Perky on April 18, 2017, 05:32:35 PM
Yeah, I know she's Left.  Believe me, I know.  But no matter how ideological a Justice may be either way, it's extremely unusual for one of them to retire just so a particular President gets to pick the replacement.  It's just not the done thing, as long as the Justice still feels fully capable of doing the job.

Now even if she were one of those few outliers, she probably believed all the BS about Hitlery winning anyway, and if that's the case, Trump's victory is doubly sweet.

I disagree. I think there is/was an unwritten agreement not to let any president have more than two or maybe three. Scalia was an outlier cause he croaked.  Personally I thought it was a good thing... until the dems started playing hardball.  Now? Screw em! I hope President Trump gets to name as many as possible.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: thundley4 on April 18, 2017, 07:07:41 PM
Trey Gowdy.

I like Trey Gowdy where he is, hunting down criminal democrats.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: Skul on April 19, 2017, 01:56:21 AM
I like Trey Gowdy where he is, hunting down criminal democrats.

I really like him in that position, too.
However, however, however, having Trey as a SC Justice assures many years of negating stupid libby legislation 
that might sneak through.
Ted would be nice, but, I think he's too much of a poltical animal.  He also PO's the libs something fierce.

All-in-all, I doubt Ginseng will retire.  A conservative justice may, knowing a constitutional conservative
would be nominated to replace him.   
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2017, 01:53:30 PM
Just possibly, as a Justice, her number one concern doesn't lie in affecting the ideological tilt of the court, and is simply trying to fulfill her duties as long as she feels able, and let the chips fall where they may afterward.



You should have prefaced that with "Once upon a time......."
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2017, 01:58:49 PM
Somehow Libs/Progs got it into their heads that the Ds could not lose in 2016 - from before the campaign started all the way through the announcement that Trump had indeed won (ignoring the fools who fantasize that the election was "stolen"). In that context, why would RBG perceive any urgent need to retire. If she was at all thinking of retiring, she was choosing between BHO picking her successor and HRC picking her successor. I assume her choice - if she made one - is obvious.

You realize of course the rank and file lefties really and truly believe leftism is the wave of the future,right?

Reality is just a strange concept to people whose whole lives are surrounded by and based on delusions.

Hell,even the Soviets,Chi-Coms,and the Vietnamese have given up on Communism,and the people in Cuber and Venezuela WANT to get rid of it,and eventually they will when they get hungry enough.

Yet we have these (mostly) "children of privilege and comfort" here in the west as the last remaining bastions of True Believers in a massively failed political system.

There just ain't no reasoning with some people. You just smack them in the mouth and go on about your business.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2017, 02:00:43 PM
Oh DAT, you made me laugh and laugh.

This is the Notorious RGB that wants a South African style Constitution for the USA. She is ALL about ideology, far left ideology.

She is,and always has been a Jewish Internationalist,raised to believe in this nonsense since her first steps,and she is not about to change what little mind she has left after 80 years of following dogma.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: SVPete on April 19, 2017, 02:18:50 PM
She is,and always has been a Jewish Internationalist,raised to believe in this nonsense since her first steps,and she is not about to change what little mind she has left after 80 years of following dogma.

What does her ethnic background have to do with her politics? Andrew Breitbart was also Jewish.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2017, 02:44:44 PM
What does her ethnic background have to do with her politics? Andrew Breitbart was also Jewish.

IS she Jewish,or not? Is she an Internationalist,or not? Is it not a FACT that the creators of modern Communism,who took the social ideals of the Irish and created Communism,were primarily Jewish,and that because of their unique history,a large percentage of the Jewish population of every nation in the world  Internationalists?


Yes,or no.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: SVPete on April 19, 2017, 03:00:48 PM
 :thatsright: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov was Russian. :thatsright:

 :thatsright: Josef Vissarionovich Djugashvili was Georgian. :thatsright: And was on the cusp of purging Jewish people when he died. :thatsright:

 :thatsright: Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev was Russian. :thatsright:

 :thatsright: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think Mao Zedong, Kim Il Sung, Ho Chi Minh, and Pol Pot were Jewish, either. :thatsright:

There were ethnically Jewish leaders in Socialism - including Marx himself - but their ethnic background was irrelevant to their philosophy and politics (except, possibly, as a rejection of their ethnic culture).
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: freedumb2003b on April 19, 2017, 03:01:30 PM
No shit.  That and liver cancer.  You get either of those, better make out your will.

I remember the red rotund one had pancreatic cancer.  Made it thru the surgery and then died of an infection.  The devil really wanted him after the great internet scam... so Frank killed him.  :lmao:

That red scalp sits proudly nailed to Frank's mantle I am sure :)
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: dutch508 on April 19, 2017, 03:14:02 PM
another 'true conservative' shouting about the evils of the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!


**** off.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 19, 2017, 05:12:54 PM
You needed an 'elebenty' somewhere near the end . . . :whistling: :tongue:
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2017, 05:18:18 PM
:thatsright: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov was Russian. :thatsright:

 :thatsright: Josef Vissarionovich Djugashvili was Georgian. :thatsright: And was on the cusp of purging Jewish people when he died. :thatsright:

 :thatsright: Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev was Russian. :thatsright:

 :thatsright: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not think Mao Zedong, Kim Il Sung, Ho Chi Minh, and Pol Pot were Jewish, either. :thatsright:

There were ethnically Jewish leaders in Socialism - including Marx himself - but their ethnic background was irrelevant to their philosophy and politics (except, possibly, as a rejection of their ethnic culture).

Let me see if I understand you,ok? Marx and the other Jews who were the driving force behind the 1917 revolution,including that wonderful human being and 1st man to head he NKVD, Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky were just "Socialists",not Communists?

BTW,a socialist is nothing more than a communist that lacks conviction.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2017, 05:20:42 PM
another 'true conservative' shouting about the evils of the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!


**** off.

And another jerk off denying history because of a personal uncomfortable truth.

BTW,just to clear the tables,I do NOT think ALL Jews are evil. There are damn sure SOME evil Jews,though.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: I_B_Perky on April 19, 2017, 06:08:35 PM
That red scalp sits proudly nailed to Frank's mantle I am sure :)

I heard he stole the body from the morgue, had it stuffed and it is propped up in a corner of his living room now. 

Dummies would do well to heed the demise of the red round one.  Once Frank gets on your trail your life expectancy goes to zero and people start thinking "Dead Dummie Walking" wherever the dummie goes.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: thundley4 on April 19, 2017, 06:46:52 PM
I heard he stole the body from the morgue, had it stuffed and it is propped up in a corner of his living room now. 

It's a scratching post for cats.
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: I_B_Perky on April 19, 2017, 06:52:57 PM
It's a scratching post for cats.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

H5 for making LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Ginsburg needed to retire under Obama
Post by: jukin on April 19, 2017, 07:35:01 PM
Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Trump is going to have two more SCOTUS justices.
And there is nothing you can do!
 :tongue: