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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 08, 2008, 06:13:40 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6607312
It's a copy-and-paste job, not something written by the Bostonian Drunkard himself, so one can read it if one wishes, without fear of falling asleep.
WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 06:54 AM
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"Senator Russ Feingold will be Obama's VP."
From a post by josephcast on TPM Cafe:
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Caroline Kennedy is the VP vetter. Russ Feingold, along with John McCain were recipients of the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage award for their work on McCain-Feingold. Caroline Kennedy was part of that decision and clearly she has a high regard for Feingold. I'm sure he is very much on her radar. Kennedy could have even been placed on the committee to help legitimize the decision. Obama knowing he wanted Feingold, knowing Kennedy would draw the parallels of Obama, Feingold, and her father. Just as she had drawn the parallels of her father and Feingold, and her father and Obama previously.
Third, the issues. Feingold has co-sponsored numerous bills that would help Senator Obama. He voted against the war, Patriot Act, FISA (bring in libertarians, independents), immigration bill. He has recently introduced the Use It or Lose It Oil Bill. The list goes on.
Also, Feingold is a great public speaker. He is very intelligent and thoughtful when speaking. He explains complicated issues in a simple, easy to understand manner, as seen here. However, he speaks his mind and can speak forcefully, but I've never heard a gaffe. He'd be a great outspoken attack dog. Also, he has a plain and folksy delivery and loves to reference Wisconsin. He travels to each WI county (all 72) at least once a year.
Clearly, he is popular with libertarians and Independents in Wisconsin. (2004 exit poll results here). Oh, and even Republicans admire his tenacity and his principles. Of course, he also reminds them of the McCain-Feingold bill, which they hate McCain for. Also, important is the possibility of campaign finance violations by the McCain campaign gaining tranction in the traditional media. Feingold would be great to have on hand in that event.
Finally, he managed to grab some Bush voters in the 2004 election (5 to 6%).
He is also a budget hawk, sits on the Select-Intelligence Committee (which is HUGE--privileged information), the Judiciary Comm, Budget Comm, and the Foreign Relations Comm, among others. The Select Comm. on Intelligence is really a big one. These Senators have had access to some of the knowledge that has been stinking up politics for the last 7 plus years (see FISA, scandals, etc).
Finally, if you want an outsider, you've got one in Feingold.
More: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/scoop...
Thoughts?
The Bostonian Drunkard's too arrogant to express his own.
Old Crusoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 06:57 AM
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1. Nobody has to sell me on the virtues of Russ Feingold.
There are some red-state voters out there who might disagree with me, though.
Feingold, for progressive Democrats and independents, would be an exhilarating choice.
Obama_for_our_future Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 07:07 AM
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2. There would be extreme enthusiasm here in the Badger State for that choice!
flblu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 07:07 AM
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3. He would be a great choice!
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Didn't Senator Fuss hold impeachment hearings in a broom closet? I'll have to look that up later. I seem to recall him having a really bad case of BDS and getting lots of primitive love.
EDITED TO ADD: http://www.democrats.com/node/13671/print
Submitted by Bob Fertik on July 16, 2007 - 6:15pm. Impeach.TV ImpeachForChange
Senator Russ Feingold visited DailyKos to explain his opposition to impeachment - and boy did he get "schooled."
It is clear that there are many people in this country, including myself, who demand accountability from this Administration for the terrible mess it made in Iraq and its egregious and even illegal power grabs throughout its six-plus years in power. I believe that the President and Vice President may well have committed impeachable offenses. But with so many important issues facing this country and so much work to be done, I am concerned about the great deal of time multiple impeachment trials would take away from the Congress working on the problems of the country. The time it would take for the House to consider articles of impeachment, and for the Senate to conduct multiple trials, would make it very difficult, if not impossible, for Congress to do what it was elected to do – end the war and address some of the other terrible mistakes this Administration has made over the past six and a half years.
Comments are growing exponentially - now 1,444. And no one is buying Feingold's argument.
This is fascinating to me because the DailyKos community was slow to support impeachment. Kos himself adamantly opposes impeachment and none of the "A-List" bloggers supports it. But clearly the Democratic "base" now adamantly supports impeachment.
Looks like the primitives have always tried to put their eggs in a Feingold basket. Much to the dismay of the impeachment set. Oh primitives!
Hmm...I'll dig up more when I have time later today.
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Didn't Senator Fuss hold impeachment hearings in a broom closet? I'll have to look that up later. I seem to recall him having a really bad case of BDS and getting lots of primitive love.
No, that was a congressman (Representative) from Michigan.
I've watched Feingold since he was first elected to the U.S. Senate; we here of course don't have much love for him, but it looks to me as if the primitives and the Obamaite primitives are going to have even less love.
Alas! the poor primitives! always destined to be unhappy! alas! the poor primitives! alas!
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Ah. That's right. Looks like Fuss was the one trying to Censure.
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The sloshy lushy Mr. Pitt, the Bostonian Drunkard, is keeping his record intact. The Hussein Campaign isn't about to pick another senator to muddy-up the ticket, unless of course, the Hussein Campaign is as stupid as the Bostonian Drunkard.
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Super far left presidential candidate is countered by super far left vice-presidential candidate. Please, please let it be Feingold.
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The sloshy lushy Mr. Pitt, the Bostonian Drunkard, is keeping his record intact. The Hussein Campaign isn't about to pick another senator to muddy-up the ticket, unless of course, the Hussein Campaign is as stupid as the Bostonian Drunkard.
Well, at least Barry "Goldwater" Obama is smart enough to have nearly outlasted the worthier Democrat candidate.
The Bostonian Drunkard, on the other hand, couldn't remain Dennis Kucinich's press secretary for more than a couple of weeks.
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Other than Kucinich, it's hard to imagine a choice that would be more effective at getting all the disenchanted Conservatives out to vote for McCain.
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Feingold doesn't deliver..........he comes from a safe state, and a better choice would be from a red state that puts pressure on McCain. It's about winning. If I'm McCain, I look at the Governor of Minnesota or one from Penn.