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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: rich_t on August 07, 2008, 11:37:09 PM
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If this has been previously posted here I apologize.
I found it very interesting.
http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner~y2008m8d4-Loose-lips-can-get-you-arrested-or-why-you-shouldnt-talk-to-the-police (http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner~y2008m8d4-Loose-lips-can-get-you-arrested-or-why-you-shouldnt-talk-to-the-police)
So, the police are investigating a crime, and in the course of their investigation, they come to chat with you about what you know or may have seen. You've done nothing wrong, so you have no objections to sitting down with the investigating officers and telling what little you may know. But the questioning becomes more intense, you find yourself stumbling over facts that don't seem important to you, but have the police pricking up their ears. And suddenly you realize that you're not just a helpful witness; now you're a suspect.
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Seems like b.s. to me.
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The police don't seem to be there to protect the people any more. They seem to be there to catch the criminal, at ANY cost. A LOT of them have taken to the "Jack Booted Thug" mentality. A REALLY good episode was the one in MN where a man named Treptow was driving down the road with his wife and two children. An undercover cop, suffering some sort of road rage, pulled up alongside the Treptow's vehicle, exchanged some words, (without disclosing that he was a police officer), and pulled a gun and pointed the gun at Treptow's wife. Treptow saw the gun and just happened to have one at his side, as he possessed a valid carry permit. Treptow responded to the assault by firing two or three rounds into the undercover cop's vehicle and hitting the cop in the leg (all of this from the driver's side of his vehicle). Even though Treptow was merely defending himself and his family, he was charged with several violations of the law. The police officer had also been charged with some things, but the bigger question remains, why didn't the officer identify himself before he pulled his service weapon?? WHY did the office not call for back-up?? Why did the officer have such a huge amount of road rage?? There have also been allegations that the undercover officer was doing some illegal drugs (as a part of his undercover duties) :whatever:
All too much, any more, it's a sad state of affairs that our police officers, who are supposed to "protect and serve" have gained the mentality that they are above the law and it just doesn't apply to them. They seem to think that they ARE the law. Hell, a good 50% of the cops in MN aren't even familiar enough with the laws to know that it's NOT a "Concealed Carry" law, but just a "carry permit", meaning that the average permit holder CAN open carry, legally.
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The police don't seem to be there to protect the people any more. They seem to be there to catch the criminal, at ANY cost. A LOT of them have taken to the "Jack Booted Thug" mentality. A REALLY good episode was the one in MN where a man named Treptow was driving down the road with his wife and two children. An undercover cop, suffering some sort of road rage, pulled up alongside the Treptow's vehicle, exchanged some words, (without disclosing that he was a police officer), and pulled a gun and pointed the gun at Treptow's wife. Treptow saw the gun and just happened to have one at his side, as he possessed a valid carry permit. Treptow responded to the assault by firing two or three rounds into the undercover cop's vehicle and hitting the cop in the leg (all of this from the driver's side of his vehicle). Even though Treptow was merely defending himself and his family, he was charged with several violations of the law. The police officer had also been charged with some things, but the bigger question remains, why didn't the officer identify himself before he pulled his service weapon?? WHY did the office not call for back-up?? Why did the officer have such a huge amount of road rage?? There have also been allegations that the undercover officer was doing some illegal drugs (as a part of his undercover duties) :whatever:
All too much, any more, it's a sad state of affairs that our police officers, who are supposed to "protect and serve" have gained the mentality that they are above the law and it just doesn't apply to them. They seem to think that they ARE the law. Hell, a good 50% of the cops in MN aren't even familiar enough with the laws to know that it's NOT a "Concealed Carry" law, but just a "carry permit", meaning that the average permit holder CAN open carry, legally.
This and rarely a day goes by without hearing about another "no knock warrant" ......served on the wrong house........
doc
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Yeah, my girlfriend's father was a victim of the no-knock warrant. Again, they had the wrong house. They were very lucky, as nobody was harmed in the debacle.
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Yeah, my girlfriend's father was a victim of the no-knock warrant. Again, they had the wrong house. They were very lucky, as nobody was harmed in the debacle.
Did the cops pay for a new door.....?
doc
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I don't believe so. :hammer: :hammer:
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There's an equally astounding and outrageous story on CNN's site today: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/08/fbi.opens.probe.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/08/fbi.opens.probe.ap/index.html)
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There's an equally astounding and outrageous story on CNN's site today: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/08/fbi.opens.probe.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/08/fbi.opens.probe.ap/index.html)
I'm sure that sort of crap happens everyday somewhere in this country.
Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.
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Seems like b.s. to me.
Why?
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Damn. Gives the good cops a bad name. A really bad name. I hate that. Rest assured, the good cops hate these stories more than Joe Civilian.
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Damn. Gives the good cops a bad name. A really bad name. I hate that. Rest assured, the good cops hate these stories more than Joe Civilian.
I am sure they do.
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If you talk to a cop and they start asking you redundant questions, stop right there. Tell them to stop it, and don't talk again without a lawyer. Be very wary of interrogation techniques. Also, if you think you are going to be questioned about a crime, write a very detailed description of your activities and observations in regards to the crime down, and do not deviate from the facts in the sheet.
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If you talk to a cop and they start asking you redundant questions, stop right there. Tell them to stop it, and don't talk again without a lawyer. Be very wary of interrogation techniques. Also, if you think you are going to be questioned about a crime, write a very detailed description of your activities and observations in regards to the crime down, and do not deviate from the facts in the sheet.
Sounds like pretty good advice.