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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 08, 2017, 11:53:51 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028446755
Oh my.
sheshe2 (37,874 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 05:51 PM
Will Dems Throw a Real Fit This Week?
This week, we’ll begin the contentious process of holding hearings on President-Elect Donald Trump’s cabinet nominees. This would be an unusually charged political environment based on the identities of Trump’s picks alone, but it will be even more so because the transition team has simply failed to line up all their ducks in a row. Most of their nominees have not completed their vetting process by the FBI and the Office of Government Ethics (OGE), or even come close.
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The Democrats are ready to pounce, and they’re leading with Elizabeth Warren who is demanding a delay in all confirmation hearings until the ethics reviews are completed. Other leaders, like Sens. Patty Murray and Dick Durbin echoed that sentiment, and even usually mild-mannered Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut was reading from the same hymnbook.
The Democrats can actually exercise some delaying tactics. To use the example of the Judiciary Committee, at least two members of the minority must be present at a hearing for it the have a quorum to conduct business, and “At the request of any member, or by action of the Chairman, a bill, matter, or nomination on the agenda of the Committee may be held over until the next meeting of the Committee or for one week, whichever occurs later.”
And that’s assuming that hearings are allowed at all. According to Rule 26 of the Senate, the Democrats do not have to consent to hearings occurring on a given day if they don’t want to, although this would apply to all hearings, and it would have to be revisited every day.
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Wellstone ruled (8,566 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 06:14 PM
1. Couple of things need to happen..
Senator Warren has to delay every thing in the Senate.
Senator Sanders has to join in any delay.
Senator Schumer has to forget about his Republican personal friends and do his job.
And the key will be getting a break form the LameO Media.
2naSalit (14,805 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 07:40 PM
2. The last one is
never gonna happen, they are all in on this... at least the corporate heads who own all the media are.
Wellstone ruled (8,566 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 07:53 PM
3. But,we can hope-------------.
Remember when Watergate first hit,what is this,after years of kissing Nixon's ass during the witch hunt of the fifties.
<<<thinks the primitive's historically confused, but never mind.
2naSalit (14,805 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 07:59 PM
4. I got off the
hope boat two months ago and I don't have any tickets to get back on at this point. I have been politically aware since 1960... I've only seen worse topping the worst every time we have Rs in power. If I hope for anything in the future it will be that some miraculous event comes about that corrects all this.
Wellstone ruled (8,566 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 08:57 PM
5. Trying my best to see something possitive,
and just about at my end. Seen this Sh*t Storm coming eight years ago sorry to say.
2naSalit (14,805 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 10:14 PM
6. Yup. Me too.
I just hoped that it wouldn't come to this but no.
Glad I'm getting old. I'm the same age as my dad when he died, but my om is still here and pushing 90 in a few months and still doing pretty good. I've already lost two siblings, I don't want her to outlive any more of us... this admin/Congress just may kill her off, though.
Wellstone ruled (8,566 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 10:24 PM
7. Worry about our Kids and
Grand Kids. Do not want the conditions we grew up with. The Forty's and Fifties were not that great,in fact damn rough.
2naSalit (14,805 posts) Sun Jan 8, 2017, 10:33 PM
8. Most of my
siblings' kids are in their late 20 and early 30s and I worry about them a lot. they are professionals w/college degrees but I still wonder how much they get it... don't see them very often to chat about that stuff. When they do have serious questions about politics they come to me to see what I have to say about it knowing that my advanced degree is in polisci.
I am so numbed by this that I have to force myself to get on with daily chores, glad I am unemployed for a few more weeks, I don't know if I could be the reliable employee I normally am.
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Please show those states with dumbocrat senators coming up for reelection in 2018 what a bunch of insane crybabies you are.
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Judging from its posts above, somebody left the "2naSalit" out in the sun too long.
Like since about 1960...
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Ok I may rub some the wrong way here, but I'm all for the way the system is supposed to work, with a few exceptions.
The Congress was designed in such a way to promote obstruction, and that's how it is supposed to work. I get irritated when I hear people arguing how that is somehow a bad thing. We constantly hear from both sides about "obstruction". Well, obstruction is they key to a representative based system of politics, and it needs to stay that way.
All we need now are 2 opposing partys, rather than 2 that you can barely tell apart most days.
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Ok I may rub some the wrong way here, but I'm all for the way the system is supposed to work, with a few exceptions.
To the contrary; I enthusiastically agree with you.
When I was wandering around the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, occasionally I had to explain our system of "checks and balances" and "separation of powers," ideas of government utterly alien to those having been born and raised under a unitary totalitarian government.
Our three branches of government, as I explained it, are always "competing" for primacy, to be king of the hill. As long as they beat up on each other, I pointed out, it meant they were too busy to beat down the people.....and so this "divisiveness" actually keeps us free.
And naturally I'm all for it. The more strife the better.
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Ds throwing a fit is a change? I have a feeling that if they push too far - and they will, IMO - they will learn the practical meaning of the word "minority". Which should have DU's most hysterical paranoids-of-the-paranoids apoplectic, :popcorn: .
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If the Dems grind the confirmation hearing to a halt by playing the games some DUmmies suggest, couldn't the GOP in the Senate just go into recess and allow Trump to make a bunch of recess appointments?
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If the Dems grind the confirmation hearing to a halt by playing the games some DUmmies suggest, couldn't the GOP in the Senate just go into recess and allow Trump to make a bunch of recess appointments?
I think they could.
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We must never forget the gift that Harry Reid gave us, the Nuclear option. Once the republicans are sufficiently bored with the political harassment the can call on the example given to us by Senator Reid and usher the whole lot in.
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In the time of obama, professionals w/college degrees = fast food worker...part time....living with their parents....with $100k+ of college debt.