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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Patriot Guard Rider on January 07, 2017, 08:56:11 AM
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portlander23 (2,038 posts)
Single Payer isn't the Policy of the Far Left, it's the Policy of the Majority
Majority in U.S. Support Idea of Fed-Funded Healthcare System
Frank Newport
Gallup
58% favor replacing the ACA with federally funded healthcare system
Presented with three separate scenarios for the future of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), 58% of U.S. adults favor the idea of replacing the law with a federally funded healthcare system that provides insurance for all Americans. At the same time, Americans are split on the idea of maintaining the ACA as it is, with 48% in favor and 49% opposed. The slight majority, 51%, favor repealing the act.
Gallup included these three questions in its interviewing on May 6-8 to provide insight into how Americans might react to the three remaining presidential candidates' proposals for dealing with the ACA. Bernie Sanders calls for replacing the ACA with a single-payer, federally administered system that he calls "Medicare for All." Donald Trump has said he would repeal the ACA, and Hillary Clinton generally says she would keep the ACA in place. Americans were asked in the survey to react to each of these proposals separately, and there was no mention of the candidates in the question wording.
Yes, we should defend the ACA tooth and nail because the Republican Party wants to replace it with nothing. But, Single Payer advocates aren't the enemy- they're the majority.
Are these the same polls that said Hitlary was a shoo-in by 12 points a week before the election? If so, I'd say the numbers are way wrong.
no_hypocrisy (27,751 posts)
1. In Germany where the government pays for all healthcare,
you don't see far right extremists demanding a free market approach. They like the system as it exists.
In this country, the far right doesn't know what to think when their leaders want to take away their healthcare for their own good and for the sake of capitalism.
HINT: I couldn't care less what Germany does. They're Germany, we ain't.
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If this poll was worded as this excerpt is written, then I'm not surprised by the result. Trump's plan has always been to repeal and replace, not outright repeal. But regardless, the truth is the vast majority of Americans believe the ACA needs to be eliminated. So much for Obama's legacy legislation.
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If this poll was worded as this excerpt is written, then I'm not surprised by the result. Trump's plan has always been to repeal and replace, not outright repeal. But regardless, the truth is the vast majority of Americans believe the ACA needs to be eliminated. So much for Obama's legacy legislation.
I'm still waiting for my 2400 dollar annual savings.
Instead, my deductible has risen to 3 grand/yr, and premiums have increased by a factor of 5
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If this poll was worded as this excerpt is written, then I'm not surprised by the result. Trump's plan has always been to repeal and replace, not outright repeal. But regardless, the truth is the vast majority of Americans believe the ACA needs to be eliminated. So much for Obama's legacy legislation.
I am self-employed.
My premiums went from $1,100/month to $1350.
Thanks obozo. And you are welcome, slackers I am subsidizing.
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Every 10 year old would vote for 365 days of Christmas.
Adults that have to pay for it not so much.
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I'm still waiting for my 2400 dollar annual savings.
Instead, my deductible has risen to 3 grand/yr, and premiums have increased by a factor of 5
I am one of the few that have been lucky. I suppose its because I'm close enough to the government beast to not be hurt by it. My plan has increased every year, but by only a few percent. Deductibles, copays, provided care, etc haven't changed much (or at all ) save for a requirement to use CVS for mail order scripts.
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What gets less coverage is that many with company health plans - paid by both the company and the employee - saw what they paid increase significantly, as those health plans conformed to ACA-mandated coverage and regulatory burdens. Having had the same employer from 2009 through 2016 that was how the ACA affected me - not whining, just pointing out that the increased costs of the free shit affected more people than those forced into policies sold in the exchanges.
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What gets less coverage is that many with company health plans - paid by both the company and the employee - saw what they paid increase significantly, as those health plans conformed to ACA-mandated coverage and regulatory burdens. Having had the same employer from 2009 through 2016 that was how the ACA affected me - not whining, just pointing out that the increased costs of the free shit affected more people than those forced into policies sold in the exchanges.
I have employer provided insurance and pay a part of mine. My deductions went up, but also what I pay every month. I'm hoping like hell the owner of the company wants a multi-year contract this year.
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What gets less coverage is that many with company health plans - paid by both the company and the employee - saw what they paid increase significantly, as those health plans conformed to ACA-mandated coverage and regulatory burdens. Having had the same employer from 2009 through 2016 that was how the ACA affected me - not whining, just pointing out that the increased costs of the free shit affected more people than those forced into policies sold in the exchanges.
I get my care entirely through the VA. It costs next to nothing and allows me to give the :bigbird: to obamacare.
As an aside, I just went to healthcare.gov to see what my 2017 rate would be. That is one screwed up site. I can't figure out how to get an estimate.
Edit: I was able to find out my "shared responsibility payment" if I had no healthcare would be $1,881.25.
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I get my care entirely through the VA. It costs next to nothing and allows me to give the :bigbird: to obamacare.
As an aside, I just went to healthcare.gov to see what my 2017 rate would be. That is one screwed up site. I can't figure out how to get an estimate.
Edit: I was able to find out my "shared responsibility payment" if I had no healthcare would be $1,881.25.
Your estimate will be vastly different than the number they start you with
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I have employer provided insurance and pay a part of mine. My deductions went up, but also what I pay every month. I'm hoping like hell the owner of the company wants a multi-year contract this year.
For all DU-folks' and the Ds' scare-steria, if Trump succeeds what is most likely to happen is that the insurance market will go back to a more rational coverage-costs balance, with costs going down as mandates, regulatory overhead, and uncertainty are eased.
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Your estimate will be vastly different than the number they start you with
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The ONLY option available to me would, on initial estimate, be $878 per month with a $7500 deductible. Once I meet that, everything is covered at a whole 50%.
Bullsh*t.
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The ONLY option available to me would, on initial estimate, be $878 per month with a $7500 deductible. Once I meet that, everything is covered at a whole 50%.
Bullsh*t.
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Here in Silicon Valley, an employer offering that as a fully company-paid health plan would have trouble finding people willing to work there. The real world might be less picky, but I can't imagine that kind of health plan being regarded as a "benefit".
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