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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: FunkyZero on December 28, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028407038 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028407038)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:46 AM
Star Member MineralMan (89,265 posts)
At this point, I am disassociating myself from people who voted for Trump.
If I know they voted for Trump, they have told me they did. That's the end of the association, as far as I am concerned. If they ask about my cessation of communication, I will tell them why. If they do not, I will simply forget about them. There was no question about who Donald Trump is and what he stands for, long before the election. Anyone who could vote for him despite that is not someone with whom I want to be associated in any way. Trumps racism, misogyny, and other bigotry was right out in the open and was undisguised. It was impossible not to be aware of those things. No, thank you very much.
If a person keeps their vote to him or herself, that's fine. If I don't know, I can't shun that person. But, if a person tells me he or she voted for Trump, that's the end of it. Period. I'm out. I'm done. I'm finished.
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:52 AM
Star Member yallerdawg (8,127 posts)
1. Never tolerated Republicans.
Now they have jumped the shark!
Response to yallerdawg (Reply #1)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:56 AM
Star Member MineralMan (89,265 posts)
2. I have tolerated Republicans.
I will not, however, tolerate racists and bigots. Nobody should, including Republicans. It is time to take a stand on this.
Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:01 AM
Star Member stopbush (17,418 posts)
4. I seriously wonder how any R gets elected to any office in this country.
These are the people who ruin the economy while stealing wealth from the populace and giving it to the already wealthy, who lie us into illegal wars, who are brazen in their disdain for women and minorities and who are trying to turn the clock back on decades of progress.
You'd think that their track record would scare off anyone with half a working brain cell. Yet here they are in control of everything.
bwaaahahaha!
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And this one is tearing up Christmas cards too. We are DOOMED!
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:00 AM
CountAllVotes (14,604 posts)
3. Know what you mean
Some are lying about it but ... I know.
Another (a senile old woman) did it because her puke kids told her to do it. She likes the money. That is where this whole thing is at with her ... the money.
Another one is a man that is Jewish. He's says he voted form tRump because he is a Republican and this is who he voted for for this reason alone.
That said, I want nothing to do with any of them either.
I was going to send case #1 above a Xmas card but became so disgusted (after a racist Obama comment) that I pulled the stamp off of said card and shredded it up.
I'm done.
This has been a real eye opener for me and I am glad I know now.
Sad isn't it?
I hope they like the goods they bought and that they rot in hell with their crappy "goods" (i.e. tRump).
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You know, if I were Minnesota Moses, I'd be careful, because doing such a thing might reveal to him how insignificant he really is, in the lives of other people.
I've been that way before, done the exact same thing.....and inevitably noticed that my absence from someone else's life had the impact of a feather falling on a rock.
In case Minnesota Moses doesn't know, that's a very disturbing discovery about oneself.
So.....I suggest he simply sit back, relax, get mellow, and enjoy the company of others who think differently than he does.
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You know, if I were Minnesota Moses, I'd be careful, because doing such a thing might reveal to him how insignificant he really is, in the lives of other people.
I've been that way before, done the exact same thing.....and inevitably noticed that my absence from someone else's life had the impact of a feather falling on a rock.
In case Minnesota Moses doesn't know, that's a very disturbing discovery about oneself.
So.....I suggest he simply sit back, relax, get mellow, and enjoy the company of others who think differently than he does.
He's running hot on the edge of the rails right now..
Response to oberliner (Reply #19)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:38 AM
Star Member MineralMan (89,265 posts)
21. Here's the thing: I form my own opinion and
have my own ethical standards. While I listen to others, I am not necessarily in agreement with them.
Did some people vote innocently for Trump? Perhaps, but if so, they did not vote based on real information, but perhaps on slogans and emotions. I lack respect for people who do not vote for people based on thinking and information about those people.
I have a limited set of people with whom I associate. Few of them would ever have voted for Trump. Those few are no longer my associates at this time.
What Bernie and Hillary say is interesting, but is not necessarily how I decide things. I do have a mind of my own, and I use it.
Response to berksdem (Reply #15)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:32 AM
Star Member MineralMan (89,265 posts)
18. I will be happy to answer questions from people I
no longer associate with. I will explain my reasons, clearly and succinctly. Most will not ask, though. If they know me, they will already have their answer. If they do not know me at that level, then virtually nothing is lost.
I'm simply going to stop dealing with people who would vote for such a man to be President. It will cost me nothing to stop. I work for people on a contract basis. Most of them, I do not know well enough to know their political beliefs, and my association with them is at a distance and non-personal.
Response to lunatica (Reply #20)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:40 AM
Star Member MineralMan (89,265 posts)
22. Non-voters have never had any respect from me.
I don't believe there are any among people with whom I associate. Non-voters are pretty much non-persons when it comes to my thinking about people. It's such an easy thing to do, and so important, that I simply can't even understand a person who does not participate in elections. They make no sense at all to me.
There's a lot of rules in there, I wonder if he can keep track of all his criteria? One thing that stands out is that he is totally fine doing business with people as long as he doesn't KNOW who they voted for.
The stupid really is in uncharted territory now. After reading the old Bush era post-election DUmp garbage, it's really strikingly similar in almost every way.
Not ONe of them, however, has ever asked themselves the question. Why should I be afraid of government, and what could I do to keep this from happening? Of course, the answer would never be "make government less powerful". The concept just completely escapes them. They are tyrants, it is an unquestionable truth.
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A few years ago my mother-in-law started slipping in to dementia. She insisted on continuing to do her bills and would check them over and over for hours at a time. She also was worried about people checking her trash for personal information. So, she would tear up old bills, bank statements and even advertisements into tiny pieces. I see a lot of similarity in MM's posts.
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I'm sure there are people who look forward to his absence from their social lives.
Another (a senile old woman) did it because her puke kids told her to do it. She likes the money.
That is where this whole thing is at with her ... the money.
Ummmmmm ... how was there money for her in Trump being elected President?
That is where this whole thing is at with her ... the money.
Another one is a man that is Jewish. He's says he voted form tRump because he is a Republican and this is who he voted for for this reason alone.
Did MM (or any other DU-member) challenge this glaringly obvious antisemitic stereotype?
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So.....I suggest he simply sit back, relax, get mellow, and enjoy the company of others who think differently than he does.
MM needs to get him some medical MJ. Never mind that the Obama administration has instructed the ATF to turn down any NICS background checks for firearms sales to those who use the substance via. doctors prescription.
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George,the only people that pay any attention to you are those of us who voted for the President elect.
Without us you are just another big doofus like Steve that spews boring crap.
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Star Member MineralMan (89,265 posts)
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Did some people vote innocently for Trump? Perhaps, but if so, they did not vote based on real information, but perhaps on slogans and emotions. (Like Hope and Change? Or I'm with HER? Make HERstory?)
I lack respect for people who do not vote for people based on thinking and information about those people. (This is certainly shocking. MM must have respect for almost no one at the DUmp! Otherwise how to explain voting for a money grubbing serial liar who blatantly exposed classified information to our enemies for her "convenience"?)
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You know, if I were Minnesota Moses, I'd be careful, because doing such a thing might reveal to him how insignificant he really is, in the lives of other people.
I've been that way before, done the exact same thing.....and inevitably noticed that my absence from someone else's life had the impact of a feather falling on a rock.
In case Minnesota Moses doesn't know, that's a very disturbing discovery about oneself.
So.....I suggest he simply sit back, relax, get mellow, and enjoy the company of others who think differently than he does.
I suspect the impact may be greater than you think. Everyone who this guy associated with that voted for Trump will probably have more money in their wallets from not having MM mooching off of them and will be happier without this DUfuss dragging politics into every conversation he butts into.
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Did some people vote innocently for Trump? Perhaps, but if so, they did not vote based on real information, but perhaps on slogans and emotions.
(Squawk!) Hope and Change! Hope and Change! Hope and Change! Hope and Change! Hope and Change! (Squawk!)
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From another thread by Minnesota Moses:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028407823
Eliot Rosewater (116 posts) Wed Dec 28, 2016, 02:32 PM
1. Yeah, what a shit show this year has been. My condolences to you and your wife.
Lately I have been asking myself "what have us good and decent people done to deserve this?".
You're not "good and decent people," shitfit.
You're pompous arrogant know-it-all asses who think only of yourselves and no one else.
You guys don't get a tenth of the misery you truly deserve.
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Tearing up Christmas cards!!! :panic:
She said she pulled the stamp off it first. :lmao: Once it's on, it's almost impossible to get it off again in usable form. Why was it necessary to post that, though?
Both George and Hopalong Bob are now insisting they will not associate with or help any GOPper. Both of them will need to take a good look at themselves, when they discover that nobody gives a shit.
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Both George and Hopalong Bob are now insisting they will not associate with or help any GOPper. Both of them will need to take a good look at themselves, when they discover that nobody gives a shit.
I'm getting concerned. We haven't seen ol' hypertensive Bob for a while.
Since there's only four more primitives, and a fifth honorary one, to be named Top DUmmies, and he hasn't been, maybe he figures he didn't make it.
Which of course he might or might not have.
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You know, if I were Minnesota Moses, I'd be careful, because doing such a thing might reveal to him how insignificant he really is, in the lives of other people.
:II:
Star Member stopbush (17,418 posts)
4. I seriously wonder how any R gets elected to any office in this country.
Because people like you exist.
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Because people like you exist.
This answer (how Rs get elected) is so 100% wrong it is amazing it didn't burn out the keyboard of the author:
tblue37 (21,426 posts)
23. Actually, it is not hard to understand at all.
I posted this comment on another thread to offer some explanation of Republicans' electoral success:
The Republicans play the long game. One aspect of that is the willingness of right wing oligarchs to invest in communication channels and think tanks, as well as funding candidates, activists and activist groups, and party offices at all levels. They fund candidates for every office, no matter how local and insignificant, and those GOP candidates often run unopposed!
Those local and state politicians make their bones, gain invaluable political skills, and establish national profiles, thus becoming familiar to potential voters, many of whom vote largely on name recognition.
Unlike the Democratic Party, the GOP always has a lot of new talent in the pipeline because they actively cultivate their future officeholders, funding them, training/mentoring them, and providing them with opportunities to present themselves to politically active party members and to the general public.
Wealthy right wingers are true believers, willing to keep funding their RW media, even if they take a loss on some of them.
The GOP has most of the billionaires willing to commit to long term funding of political activism: the Koch brothers, the late Richard Mellon Scaife, Sheldon Addelson, Rupert Murdoch, the Mercers (i.e., Cheato's main wealthy supporters), etc.
Juan Cole once wrote an essay about how after completing his PhD he watched his RW classmates get recruited for well paid jobs at right wing think tanks or on Republican politicians' staffs, while he struggled to find any sort of decently paid work.
We have most of the really popular entertainers, but they tend to be multimillionaires, not billionaires, and many of them can barely afford to maintain their own lavish lifestyles and entourages. They donate to some high profile candidates, mostly for national offices, but ignore the need to build party & political infrastructure. They lack the intense political understanding and involvement and the money
to play the long game the way the RW billionaires do.
Usually liberal movie stars or other entertainers, like athletes or musicians, will focus on raising awareness and funding for a pet cause, only turning their attention to elections every four years, and then almost exclusively to presidential elections. Think, for example, of George Clooney's focus on Darfur, except for his Hollywood fundraising parties for Democratic presidential candidates.
George Soros is the main politically savvy billionaire on our side willing to invest in infrastructure for long term goals, but his political attention (and money) is spread around the world, in efforts to promote democratic/liberal goals in many different countries.
The left doesn't have billionaires? Multimillionaires are no help? Republicans play THE LONG GAME??
I am glad they see us as having this amazing power and organization when the eGOP is exactly the opposite.
There are some funny bits in there as well.
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She said she pulled the stamp off it first. :lmao: Once it's on, it's almost impossible to get it off again in usable form. Why was it necessary to post that, though?
Yup - not only are they damned near impossible to remove, there are three other things in play that make it likely that a letter with a reused stamp is coming back to you for insufficient postage.
1) Stamps fluoresce at a very specific wavelength as letters pass through automated systems, if that color isn't right the letter gets kicked out and hand examined.
2) The same is true with cancellation marks, metered mail postage etc etc. - a letter may be kicked out if these colors are present or missing as well.
3) Scotch tape screws with how the stamp fluoresces. Once the letter is kicked out and a live person sees the tape, the letter will be returned no questions asked, or it will go postage due to the recipient if the petty theft DUmmy doesn't leave a return address.
In other words, it takes less than fifty cents to send an average letter to anyone in the United States. That's a bargain by any measure. Don't be a cheapass and buy a new stamp.
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Suspect that Rock head doesn't hang around actual human beings much at all to begin with. So why should it change now?
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You know, if I were Minnesota Moses, I'd be careful, because doing such a thing might
...cause him to lose a foot.
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Star Member MineralMan (89,265 posts)
At this point, I am disassociating myself from people who voted for Trump.
If I know they voted for Trump, they have told me they did. That's the end of the association, as far as I am concerned. If they ask about my cessation of communication, I will tell them why. If they do not, I will simply forget about them. There was no question about who Donald Trump is and what he stands for, long before the election. Anyone who could vote for him despite that is not someone with whom I want to be associated in any way. Trumps racism, misogyny, and other bigotry was right out in the open and was undisguised. It was impossible not to be aware of those things. No, thank you very much.
If a person keeps their vote to him or herself, that's fine. If I don't know, I can't shun that person. But, if a person tells me he or she voted for Trump, that's the end of it. Period. I'm out. I'm done. I'm finished.
Rockhead: I am not associating with you anymore!!!
Acquaintance:
(http://cdn.dailyheadlines.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/well-bye-meme-663.jpg)
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Hey George, get a load of this!
Response to MineralMan (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:10 PM
mnhtnbb (20,416 posts)
54. I started disassociating when "friends" identified themselves as proud
to be deplorables. I want nothing to do with people who are proud to identify with a racist, misogynistic, bigoted,
ignorant, narcissistic pathological liar.
My brother and his wife voted Trump. I've had no communication with them since. Sent a holiday card/letter,
but didn't personalize it at all. It's been a long time coming, actually, since there's a lot of history for my brother
being very selfish and inconsiderate.
My husband has a bunch of family who are Trumpists. I keep them as "friends" on fb because he insists--but
I have them blocked so only look at their walls occasionally to see what's going on. No change, really, for me,
as I don't communicate with them.
What were you saying about Repub women and their submissive "yes dear" shit?
Response to Bayard (Reply #72)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 03:31 PM
ReformedGOPer (101 posts)
83. My 29 year old son did.
But I refused to let him speak about anything political during the past holidays. The little I did speak to him about, it was obvious he was a low information voter (although he doesn't think so) He told me at Thanksgiving that Trump did release his tax returns but the media hasn't reported it. At that point I realized for the sake of peace, to stop trying to enlighten him. He wouldn't have any of it.
Hey intellectual powerhouses, I thought you read the New York Times faithfully. They leaked them illegally. Then, if you missed that, there was a cover story right about it in the grocery store, at the National Enquirer that you dipshits are pawing over.