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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on December 27, 2016, 01:00:49 AM
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Star Member AmericanActivist (515 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028403097
My Constitutional question, a question that came to me on 11/10 and I articulated on
11/12 after the "election" my question is this:
There are people in government who swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the USA and the US Constitution. How does upholding this sworn oath work when transferring power to a man that threatens entire groups of American people?
How is that possible? Obviously some government officials could care less about this solemn oath, their word means nothing, they have no integrity or values, perhaps they are sold out to the highest corporate bidder, or being blackmailed by Russia, or whatever but some, who are honorable, honest people have sworn this oath and tRump is a one man constitutional crisis who literally threatens Americans and the Constitution.
So, how does this work? If tRump is allowed to violate laws, threaten groups of people, refuse to comply with releasing tax returns, violates nepotism regs, basically does whatever he wants while tweeting threats about union leaders, nuclear weapons, dissenting opinions, and manipulating stock prices.
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Star Member elleng (72,828 posts)
2. 25th Amendment Section 4.
never gonna happen
Star Member AmericanActivist (515 posts)
5. tRump is unqualified and unfit that is nothing new. He has threatened Americans and allied with Russia repeatedly defending Russia and Putin. The Constitutional duty is to protect, preserve & defend the US Constitution and there is a duty to defend the Constitutional Rights of Americans. I disagree that there is a Constitutional duty to tRump or to transferring power. 17 US Intel agencies, meaning all of them, agree Russia intentionally interfered in our election in order to elect tRump. So, respectfully disagree re him being "duly elected successor" and he has already broken laws and violated the Constitution while demonstrating being mentally unfit.
You are calling for violent revolution against the country.
Star Member WillowTree (4,031 posts)
8. What action that would not violate the Constitution do you propose that they take to prevent him from taking office now that he's been elected?
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Star Member AmericanActivist (515 posts)
9. I propose that they defend the USA & the US Constitution from ALL enemies foreign and domestic. I propose that tRump is an UNPRECEDENTED occurrence and that the 2016 "election" was also UNPRECEDENTED especially with Russian interference.
:naughty: ... and...
Star Member AmericanActivist (515 posts)
13. I'm not sure what you mean. I am not a legislator, or Pres or VP I've never held public office yet I do not need to know exactly what they should do. Surely there are procedures in place to defend the USA & the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. Use the letter of the law, use the spirit of the law, use case history, I don't need to know details they do. I know that Americans can resist but we have no power to stop tRump. There is evidence to support that tRump is unqualified, unfit, mentally unstable, that he has already violated law and the Constitution. The Electoral College failed in their duty to prevent an unfit Pres who is not qualified, who is an autocrat/demagogue under foreign influence, all 3 criteria tRump fails yet they didn't stop him now it falls to the US Government and clearly not Republicans because they have been working against America and Americans for decades.
So, do you have any thoughts? Or just questions?
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Star Member True_Blue (2,567 posts)
14. It is a Constitutional Crisis
We have a hostile foreign power that interfered in our democracy to get an obviously mentally unstable candidate elected that will undoubtedly bring down the US. There should at least an investigation into whether our democracy was subverted by a foreign power before Trump is sworn in. I'm afraid once he's sworn in that he'll be uncontrollable and no one will be able to stop him.
They all know what they are calling for but are too chickenshit to come out and say it.
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17 US Intel agencies, meaning all of them, agree Russia intentionally interfered in our election in order to elect tRump.
BBBRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPP!!!!!
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"That is utter bullshit."
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"Ten yard penalty and loss of down. Additionally, since this is the entire premise of your idiotic claim that there is some sort of 'Constitutional crisis,' this means that you forfeit everything and now deserve to have your ass kicked individually by all 70,000 people in this stadium."
No, idiot DUmmie, 17 intel agencies do not agree that Russia interfered to help Trump. NO intel agencies agree that Russia interfered to help Trump. Their evidence shows the exact opposite of this. They agree that whatever Russian hacking that there was had no effect on the election.
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Thank God that after 8 years of the most unqualified and unfit President ever we have started towards fixing his disasters.
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Why do they come up with the stupidest names to call Republicans? They are just stupid and I don't see how they can be an insult. :whatever:
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There are people in government who swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the USA and the US Constitution
My questions: Is violating the oath of office an impeachable offense? If so, why hasn't Obama been impeached? Black privilege?
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Why do they come up with the stupidest names to call Republicans? They are just stupid and I don't see how they can be an insult. :whatever:
They have a fascination with Rump?
I'm looking forward to Progs' expressions of racist mockery when an R of Vietnamese heritage named "Dung" or "Phuc" is elected to office.
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Star Member AmericanActivist (515 posts)
13. <snip> There is evidence to support that tRump is unqualified, unfit, mentally unstable, that he has already violated law and the Constitution. <snip>
He hasn't even taken the oath of office yet, *sswipe!!!
So tell me, just how has he managed to do all of this?
Thought so.
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Why do they come up with the stupidest names to call Republicans? They are just stupid and I don't see how they can be an insult. :whatever:
because
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that's why
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This AmericanActivist is fairly new, but he's already shaping up as one of the more nuttier, unhinged lunatics over there. He's not very nice to his fellow primitives, either, getting all in their faces and being generally nasty. A very nice specimen.
Response to AmericanActivist (Reply #20)
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:01 PM
COLGATE4 (11,197 posts)
22. Conclusory statements are unfortunately not evidence.
In the real world you would have extreme difficulty (so as not to say impossible) in substantiating any of these allegations.
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Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:01 PM
COLGATE4 (11,197 posts)
22. Conclusory statements are unfortunately not evidence.
Translation: "Just because you say it doesn't make it fact." The same could be said, with equal aptness, to the Buggy Laydee.
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>>How does upholding this sworn oath work when transferring power to a man that threatens entire groups of American people? <<
Name one threat. Against ANYONE. Person or Group.
One.
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Translation: "Just because you say it doesn't make it fact." The same could be said, with equal aptness, to the Buggy Laydee.
Big time. That's all that insect posts.
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Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:01 PM
COLGATE4 (11,197 posts)
22. Conclusory statements are unfortunately not evidence.
In the real world you would have extreme difficulty (so as not to say impossible) in substantiating any of these allegations.
This dork looks like he's trying to channel TheMagistrate.