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Title: Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 11, 2016, 09:20:07 PM
Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SANCTUARY_HOUSES_OF_WORSHIP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-09-15-26-28

It is an AP article. If those churches give sanctuary, they should lost their tax exempt status.
Title: Re: Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
Post by: Adam Wood on December 11, 2016, 11:01:18 PM
Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SANCTUARY_HOUSES_OF_WORSHIP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-09-15-26-28

It is an AP article. If those churches give sanctuary, they should lost their tax exempt status.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
Post by: Fourwinds on December 12, 2016, 10:40:28 AM
Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SANCTUARY_HOUSES_OF_WORSHIP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-12-09-15-26-28

It is an AP article. If those churches give sanctuary, they should lost their tax exempt status.

Agreed as this falls under the political umbrella. Can't have it both ways leftists.
Title: Re: Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
Post by: FlaGator on December 12, 2016, 12:00:10 PM
I have no issue with Churches offering sanctuary to illegals. The support comes from the funds provided by the congregation. All they can supply is room and board and food and these items will be in limited supply because most Churches are far from rich. Also it follows the commands of Jesus to 'do to the least of these' is to do as you would for Christ. Would anyone here deny food and shelter to Jesus?
Title: Re: Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
Post by: Eupher on December 12, 2016, 03:56:47 PM
I have no issue with Churches offering sanctuary to illegals. The support comes from the funds provided by the congregation. All they can supply is room and board and food and these items will be in limited supply because most Churches are far from rich. Also it follows the commands of Jesus to 'do to the least of these' is to do as you would for Christ. Would anyone here deny food and shelter to Jesus?

I think the issue here is the word "illegals".

If churches make it their business to target support to illegals, rather than just Julio on the street, that's where the line is crossed, imho.

If, however, churches make no distinction between class, political persuasion, race, creed, ethnic origin, etc., etc., and provide food, clothing, and other necessities, that's perfectly fine.

I personally have worked with the Salvation Army and I see how they do it. They immerse themselves where the poor and destitute and, no doubt, illegals are. Their focus is not the status of the individual other than that person is hungry and needs clothing, perhaps even shelter. That person's needs are ministered to, and yes, they get a healthy dose of "The Word of God."
Title: Re: Churches Vow To Offer Sanctuary To People In US Illegally
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 12, 2016, 04:14:57 PM
I think the issue here is the word "illegals".

If churches make it their business to target support to illegals, rather than just Julio on the street, that's where the line is crossed, imho.

If, however, churches make no distinction between class, political persuasion, race, creed, ethnic origin, etc., etc., and provide food, clothing, and other necessities, that's perfectly fine.

I personally have worked with the Salvation Army and I see how they do it. They immerse themselves where the poor and destitute and, no doubt, illegals are. Their focus is not the status of the individual other than that person is hungry and needs clothing, perhaps even shelter. That person's needs are ministered to, and yes, they get a healthy dose of "The Word of God."

I had this sort of conversation with my church's pastor about 3-4 years ago.  We were in agreement that the problem was the illegal status.  However, I also agreed that if an illegal came in seeking sanctuary, we'd give it.  This wasn't something that we'd advertise, but we'd do it.  You could be sure that said illegals would receive a healthy dose of Catholic theology in the interim.