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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Patriot Guard Rider on December 10, 2016, 02:34:01 PM
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Star Member pangaia (9,455 posts)
Some guy is saying a public prayer at the Army Navy game.
Is that legal????
**** that shit...
Tell ya what DUmmie, YOU go on the field and stop him, at an Army/Navy game. I dare you.
Star Member PoindexterOglethorpe (787 posts)
1. It ought not to be legal, in my opinion.
And even if legal, this sort of public praying shouldn't be happening.
Star Member malchickiwick (128 posts)
2. They love to ignore what Jesus actually said, i.e.:
"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others ... When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray ... in secret." Matthew 6: 5-6.
Star Member mountain grammy (12,401 posts)
3. Thought I read somewhere trump would be there
Let us pray with chik fil a....
Star Member yeoman6987 (13,385 posts)
4. It's legal
The military says prayers at a lot of events.
Star Member pangaia (9,455 posts)
7. humm.. i find it hard to believe that it is legal,, but...
Is it always a christian prayer?
Star Member yeoman6987 (13,385 posts)
8. Typically a Christian chaplain says the prayers
I'm sure rabbis and Iman do to but there are so few of them in the military.
Star Member pangaia (9,455 posts)
9. I mean at the game..
Star Member yeoman6987 (13,385 posts)
12. I've been to many home games in Annapolis and I never saw a prayer said
However, I never attended an army navy game so not sure if this unique to just this annual game.
Star Member pangaia (9,455 posts)
5. Army had a gaggle of helicopters fly over.
Navy had some jets. I though the navy had ships.
Why didn't they have an air craft carrier?
The stupid is strong with you
ret5hd (11,562 posts)
10. Because there's more airplanes in the ocean than ships in the sky.
Just sayin'.
Star Member stopbush (17,312 posts)
6. Being a Xian in this country has devolved into
an "in your face!" expression of the position of unwarranted privilege that sorry belief system is afforded in this country.
Star Member libtodeath (2,378 posts)
11. It should not be legal
If on our airwaves then it is a violation of the first amendment.
Star Member brooklynite (35,852 posts)
13. Are football games Government events?
Is the game occurring on Government property?
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Wait until they find out that the military has chapels, and that many non-religious TRAINING events take place in them.
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How can they be so very ignorant?
and how can I continue to be surprised after all this time?
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How can they be so very ignorant?
and how can I continue to be surprised after all this time?
It boggles the mind.
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Wonder what they thought of the annual "prisoner exchange" at the game?
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Response to pangaia (Original post)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 03:20 PM
Star Member libtodeath (2,381 posts)
11. It should not be legal
If on our airwaves then it is a violation of the first amendment.
Every Sunday morning, there are religious services on the radio and TV. They are also exercising their first amendment rights. Idiot.
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Star Member libtodeath (2,378 posts)
11. It should not be legal
If on our airwaves then it is a violation of the first amendment.
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder909/500x/57248909.jpg)
Unbelievable.
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Star Member pangaia (9,455 posts)
5. Army had a gaggle of helicopters fly over.
Navy had some jets. I though the navy had ships.
Why didn't they have an air craft carrier?
The avengers crashed the damn things. Or else that fly by would have been balls out!
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If they had just had a muslim laid out on a prayer rug facing mecca, then star member pagina would have been doing back flips in orgasmatic glee rather than getting a full case of butt hurt because he saw a "Xian" praying.
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Typical anti- Christian bigotry.
They won't be happy until every public expression involving the Christian faith, including a church/ worship service, is a full felony.
Fortunately, not even Obama was stupid enough or bigoted enough to do that.
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Yet they wonder why only the coastal deviants vote for them.
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If they had just had a muslim laid out on a prayer rug facing mecca, then star member pagina would have been doing back flips in orgasmatic glee rather than getting a full case of butt hurt because he saw a "Xian" praying.
Was thinking that my self
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Star Member libtodeath (2,378 posts)
11. It should not be legal
If on our airwaves then it is a violation of the first amendment.
Sometimes I think there are more trolls on DU than real lunatics.
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11 Boo steps up:
Star Member 11 Bravo (19,055 posts)
27. I'm a Christian. Let me know if any of my posts have ...
caused you to suffer unnecessary angst.
Star Member stopbush (17,322 posts)
29. Religious belief is a conceit the world can no longer afford.
Star Member rug (79,174 posts)
30. Then it is your duty to eliminate it.
Go ahead.
Star Member stopbush (17,322 posts)
31. It's on its way out. It's the natural course of things.
Stupidities get harder to hold onto the longer they're recognized as stupidities
Star Member 11 Bravo (19,055 posts)
34. In your amazingly-less-than-humble opinion?
You've got several billions of people to convince. Get to work.
Star Member stopbush (17,322 posts)
35. I am getting to work, starting right here at DU.
People want to post their religious shit here, I'm going to push back, here.
"Work" :lmao:
Hey DUchebag, stopbush:
EVEN ISLAM??
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Star Member malchickiwick (128 posts)
2. They love to ignore what Jesus actually said, i.e.:
"When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others ... When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray ... in secret." Matthew 6: 5-6.
Wow! How many minutes did it take you to figure out how to use an online concordance and then find that verse? Stoooooopid question time, multiple choice style. Did DU-member malchickiwick:
A.) Unknowingly used this verse out of context;
B.) Knowingly ripped this verse out of context in order to misapply it;
C. Discovered the existence of the verse a few minutes before posting it without bothering to read it in context and understand the point Jesus was trying to make.
I'm only 33% caffeinated and in a good mood, so I'll go with choice "A.)". Using a verse from the Bible (or the Qur'an, or ______) out of context tends to result in absurdity. Does this DU-member (and those who approved of his/her post) really believe that 2000 years of public prayers by priests, pastors, elders, etc., in church services were done in ignorance and violation of this Scripture? Does this DU-member really believe Jesus was in this verse condemning the public prayers in synagogues and the temple?
As the old saying goes, "A text out of context is a pretext." Jesus in this section of the Sermon on the Mount was condemning those who make a public show of their religiosity - e.g. making a show of charitable giving and praying loudly in public places - to impress people around them. There is room for discussion of the appropriateness of this pre-game public prayer, obviously, but this verse would be a red herring in such a discussion.
Not that DU-folk care. They would be fine with a Hindu or Muslim prayer. Some would be OK with a Jewish prayer - but not with DU's closet-with-an-open-door Joooooooo-Haters. It's the Christian part they hate.
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Star Member stopbush (17,322 posts)
29. Religious belief is a conceit the world can no longer afford.
Star Member stopbush (17,322 posts)
31. It's on its way out. It's the natural course of things.
Stupidities get harder to hold onto the longer they're recognized as stupidities
::) Yeah, right. ::) Persecutors have tried to wipe out Christianity for nearly 20 centuries. Philosophers (a word of ironic etymology) have striven just as long to dissuade, confuse, and ridicule Christians into the philosophers' disbelief.
stopbush is only fooling himself (or herself, as the case may be). "Soft" persecution has taken root in EuroLand, and is being sown and cultivated here in the US, and I'm guessing stopbush is impatient at its slow progress. It could be reversed,or it could grow stronger. I'm not suggesting Christians are or would be thrown to lions or executed by gladiators in arenas (throwing religious people in mental hospitals and drugging them up was done in the USSR, though). But Christians are being marginalized, and being forced to choose between violating their beliefs or being driven out of their chosen professions. And a Jew wearing a yarmulke and walking alone across a commons area in many public and private universities would be risking attack by Jew-Haters.
Back to my point, people like stopbush will learn that the harder they squeeze Christians, the more ardent we get, and the more we escape between their fingers. That's another 2000-year-old, oft-repeated, lesson stopbush and his/her ilk refuse to learn.
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It's a safe bet to assume at least 95% of DU members are atheist to enhance their pseudo-intellectual cred if anything.
The fact they get so twisted up in prayer to a deity they do not believe exists is proof to me of an Almight God. It id also further proof of their allegiance to evil.
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Religion is "on its way out" around the world? Apparently no one at the DUmp ever took history classes.
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It's a safe bet to assume at least 95% of DU members are atheist to enhance their pseudo-intellectual cred if anything.
The fact they get so twisted up in prayer to a deity they do not believe exists is proof to me of an Almight God. It id also further proof of their allegiance to evil.
Yeah, but tell them there is no global warming and that climate change is known in sane circles as "weather", and watch 'em explode.